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Hoping that DA3 will finish up Morrigan's story


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highwindstryder

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Here's hoping DA3 will finish up Morrigan's story from DA : O.

Don't care who the protagonist or other playable characters are as long as Morrigan's story gets a least a main quest arc devoted to it.

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I'm inclined to believe that Morrigan's child (a son, I think) will play an important role in DA3. Whether that means he's the villain, the player character or a teammate remains to be seen. However, I can't imagine he won't get written in somehow.

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DeadPoolMK wrote...

I'm inclined to believe that Morrigan's child (a son, I think) will play an important role in DA3. Whether that means he's the villain, the player character or a teammate remains to be seen. However, I can't imagine he won't get written in somehow.


As popular as Morrigan is, I would have thought the same of Dragon Age II and yet that passed without, as far as I know, a single mention of her!

What I'd like to do is a few months from now, think to look at Claudia Black on IMDB and see DA3, lol.

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when i think about what he role he will have..........i have a rather disturbing thought.

i'd say what it relate to, but that would be spoilers.

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If Morrigan is in DA3, I would preorder just based on that.

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highwindstryder

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The DA facebook just had a morrigan quip, how's that for teasing?

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DeadPoolMK wrote...

I'm inclined to believe that Morrigan's child (a son, I think) will play an important role in DA3. Whether that means he's the villain, the player character or a teammate remains to be seen. However, I can't imagine he won't get written in somehow.


Sadly, Morrigan having a godchild is relative to one's game.
I don't see how they could handwave it away, either. Can't imagine they'd do a "Morrigan left Warden after argument, met with total stranger and got knocked up, then the destroyed soul of the Old God just thought it'd be cool to seek out her womb and empower her fetus".

I don't expect anything more than a cameo TBH.

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It's got to be more than a cameo. I'm also disappointed that the Warden's story is over. Who is making these decisions anyway?

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Unknown_Warrior wrote...
Sadly, Morrigan having a godchild is relative to one's game.
I don't see how they could handwave it away, either.


There is a simple solution to this problem. If Morrigan had a child in DAO you get a full blown quest involving her and the child. If there is no child, Morrigan makes a brief appearance and tells you how badly you blew it instead of the quest. It might even encourage you to replay DAO to get the child ending.

Naturally I figured out how to get the chold in all my endings. :D

Harold

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Can't they just assume that one ending is canon? Haven't they made such assumptions in the past?

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highwindstryder wrote...

Can't they just assume that one ending is canon? Haven't they made such assumptions in the past?


They have,but that forced canon infuriated a lot of fans,and rightly so.
Your choices made throughout the game should matter,especially one as important as the ultimate sacrifice / Morrigan.

I love Morrigan (I am a girl but she is my fav female character in DAO,Shale aside:),but if they do bring her back,I hope they do it in a meaningful way,while taking gamer choices into account.
Not an easy feat. Regardless of the implementation difficulties,Morrigan appears to be an extremely important character in Thedas,so...;)

Modifié par Begemotka, 24 avril 2012 - 04:30 .


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Whether or nor the "god-child as canon" thing was written in stone based on a players individual choices or not, there remains an in-story aspect that could ALLOW Bioware to bring Morrigan back no matter what variety of options were "possible" for everyone previously.

I've always wondered if Bioware ever considered using her Robes of Possession costume upgrade as an "out" to bring her back regardless of what the bulk of fandom may have experienced with her in their own unique playthroughs. Think about it for a minute.

No matter whether you took her up on the dark ritual, romanced her, sent her packing early at Lothering, killed her as she fell through the Eluvian - potentially all of that could be negated - despite any blowback from the fanbase using this as an option.

Let's say that this uniform upgrade allowed Flemeth's control over her daughter to begin as a process. It could leave plenty of expected lore about the god-child in the dark, and granted that would irk lots of folks, but still it might be a possiblity. Not advocating either way, just intrigued at the thought.

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I'm thinking the OGB will be put on the back burner and Morrigan or Flemeth will mention him as a potential future asset.

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heh just put flemeth in the party.

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highwindstryder wrote...

Can't they just assume that one ending is canon? Haven't they made such assumptions in the past?


Well, if they made the OGB and Morrigan living canon, that would make the entire Warden dying totally moot.
Compared to bringing back Leliana from the dead in the rare cases where people killed her and bringing back Anders and Justice (though that only clashes with the epilogue slides) it's a pretty major retcon.

And fans were pretty furious about the few retcons already in DAII. Furthermore, the OGB doesn't exist in 2/3 of the default imports of DAII.

So yeah, bad idea.

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Double post

Modifié par Zexiv, 24 avril 2012 - 07:21 .


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Zexiv wrote...

I'm hoping they'll bring closure to Flemeth and Morrigan. Preferably using the DAO save imported to give you one series of events or another based on what your previous choice had been. My impression when I got to that point in the game was that this is one of the events that would be carried forward based on what was chosen in that particular play through.

Take it easy



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Unknown_Warrior wrote...

DeadPoolMK wrote...

I'm inclined to believe that Morrigan's child (a son, I think) will play an important role in DA3. Whether that means he's the villain, the player character or a teammate remains to be seen. However, I can't imagine he won't get written in somehow.


Sadly, Morrigan having a godchild is relative to one's game.
I don't see how they could handwave it away, either. Can't imagine they'd do a "Morrigan left Warden after argument, met with total stranger and got knocked up, then the destroyed soul of the Old God just thought it'd be cool to seek out her womb and empower her fetus".

I don't expect anything more than a cameo TBH.


No it is'nt. Morrigan will have god's baby even if you decline the Ritual completely (neither Alistair nor Loghain to replace you too). At the ending screens she still has the child, even if you died. So its not really forced cannon, as it happens already in all of the Origins endings, regardless of your choice.

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Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

No it is'nt. Morrigan will have god's baby even if you decline the Ritual completely (neither Alistair nor Loghain to replace you too). At the ending screens she still has the child, even if you died. So its not really forced cannon, as it happens already in all of the Origins endings, regardless of your choice.


Wait...it isn`t?

That is impossible,or sounds like it...Simply,because of the highlighted bit of your post.:huh:

If,despite your refusing the ritual,Morrigan somehow still managed to conceive a tainted child,none of the Wardens would have died at the end.
One of the Wardens dying is the proof that if you refuse the ritual,the OGB does not exist.

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Begemotka wrote...

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

No it is'nt. Morrigan will have god's baby even if you decline the Ritual completely (neither Alistair nor Loghain to replace you too). At the ending screens she still has the child, even if you died. So its not really forced cannon, as it happens already in all of the Origins endings, regardless of your choice.


Wait...it isn`t?

That is impossible,or sounds like it...Simply,because of the highlighted bit of your post.:huh:

If,despite your refusing the ritual,Morrigan somehow still managed to conceive a tainted child,none of the Wardens would have died at the end.
One of the Wardens dying is the proof that if you refuse the ritual,the OGB does not exist.


She probably rapes your corpse with  the help of blood magic (but if you are female this probably would'nt work)

I do'nt know why that is, but i still get her with child at the end, even if i refuse. And it happen multiple times, and with different DLCs , it was'nt just once. She is always at the ending shown with child leaving ferelden. I have'nt try to see what happens if you simply send her away before the landsmeet (you know telling her she is hearlthess ****, i have'nt try that one, but after the Landsmeet she gets the child no matter what you do)

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Chaos Lord Malek wrote...
No it is'nt. Morrigan will have god's baby even if you decline the Ritual completely (neither Alistair nor Loghain to replace you too). At the ending screens she still has the child, even if you died. So its not really forced cannon, as it happens already in all of the Origins endings, regardless of your choice.


Where are you getting that from? I didn't die and Morrigan didn't sleep with Loghain. In the ending it said that a woman matching Morrigan's description became an advisor in the Orlesian Empress' court. Nothing about a child. If that was the case, it would be a massive "up yours" to every gamer who played Origins.

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@Chaos Lord Malek :

Oh my god...wonder if it those slides mean the OGB is canon,or it isjust a bug the size of a BUGBEAR.
One of my female wardens did the ultimate sacrifice (for the achievement,I hate heroic deaths,I prefer heroic lives:) and Morrigan is not with child in the epilogue.

But then again,I have two dialogue fix mods installed that fix most companion dialogue and approval flags(Zev,Alistair,Morrigan,Loghain friendly / DR coronation).

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Yep,I did not remember what the slide said exactly,but that`s it,and advisory role in Orlais.
The slide for Malek is a bugbear,then.

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Yeah, there are way too many showings/occurrences of the god baby for this to be a coincidence. It's pretty much already set as canon, going forward with it can't hurt. I suppose that it your savegame shows that you didn't do the deed yourself, the game will simply say that someone besides the Warden did it.

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5trangeCase wrote...

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...
No it is'nt. Morrigan will have god's baby even if you decline the Ritual completely (neither Alistair nor Loghain to replace you too). At the ending screens she still has the child, even if you died. So its not really forced cannon, as it happens already in all of the Origins endings, regardless of your choice.


Where are you getting that from? I didn't die and Morrigan didn't sleep with Loghain. In the ending it said that a woman matching Morrigan's description became an advisor in the Orlesian Empress' court. Nothing about a child. If that was the case, it would be a massive "up yours" to every gamer who played Origins.


Not every gamer! Only the ones who refused the Dark Ritual. And everyone knows those people deserve an "up yours."

Ha ha! Kidding! Only kidding!

Seriously, though, no. OGB will not be canon for players who have refused the Dark Ritual. David Gaider has said so many, many times. But, there has always been a subset of folks who continue to ignore that point. Lord knows why. OGB could be very cool, but I for one hope we'll see big consequences both IF the Dark Ritual was done, and if it WASN'T done.

Of course, so far we haven't seen BIG consequences for any of our decisions in Dragon Age. But a man can certainly dream.