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kyg_20X6

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Anyone else find ME3 too depressing to enjoy now?

All the conversations between LIs, friends, etc about hopes for the future and that are so depressing now. They were emotionally touching the first time, but in a positive way. Now...

No little blue babies with Liara. No retirement to Rannoch with Tali. And so on.

I mean, it's possible to jump through a dozen hoops with these endings and imagine some far-fetched possibility where that may happen, but it's not real. Shepard dying in 2/3 choices ruins it. Your LI & friends apparently abandoning you and exiting the Normandy without any seeming care for what happened to their love/friend ruins it.

I hope the DLC we're getting addresses this. Some cutscenes or something (not long, 10 secs or so maybe) for each character showing what happened to them. And if Shepard and your LI survived, then one for them. No real need for voice acting, could be just shown to some stirring music.

That's all I really want, some hope. Something uplifting. Some closure on the stories of my Shepard, their love and their friends. Hell, after this long they're OUR friends (am I right!?). After all the bleakness, loss & fatalism that is in the game is it too much to have the chance of something joyful after all this? After 3 game, 5 years, hundreds of hours, does my Shepard's relationship with Tali end with her begging for more time? Or Liara fatalisticly sharing her memories with Shepard? Or Garrus talking about meeting in heaven? After this long, is this the reward for all this emotional investment? No hope for the future?

I know war is hell and we all experience loss or a failure of hope in real life but replaying it over & over... :(

Getting depressed again just writing all this out but needed to vent and wanted to see how others felt.

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Yes I think all of ME3 fans need a hug, its depressing. Your not alone :crying:

*HUGS*

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Even though I like bittersweet stories, when I look ahead to the ending, I feel so guilty especially to the LIs...

Wars, it sucks. :(

Modifié par rpgfan321, 24 mars 2012 - 04:58 .


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I love the little interludes before the end though... even the rest of the crew are matching up and my Shep actually caught one pair hugging and they went all embarrassed. Was quite touching/humorous.

But yeah, I really did want Liara to end up with little blue babies.

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LadyofRivendell

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I forget about the ending when I start playing.
It's when I stop playing that I remember what happens, and that makes me depressed.

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I pretend like the ending doesn't happen. I pretend that the Crucible works like it's supposed to, the Reapers all die, Anderson gets an oscarworthy death scene, the mass relays still work, and Shep and all his friends survive and live happily ever after.

That allows me to play the game. I'm about to start my 5th import, in fact.

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I could care less about Rannoch. Tali jumping off a cliff was something i've been waiting for...though I would have rather killed her myself.

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Yeah, it's depressing. Everything and everyone we ever cared for is gone? What kind of an ending is that? A drop of sweetness in an ocean of bitterness. I can't even take satisfaction from defeating the Reapers, because felt like a defeat.

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rpgfan321 wrote...

Even though I like bittersweet stories, when I look ahead to the ending, I feel so guilty especially to the LIs...

Wars, it sucks. :(


Mordin dying to ensure the True Cure is dispensed with Wrex and Bakara in control is a bittersweet ending to the Krogan quest line.

Legion spending less than a minute with actualized intelligence, with Tali saying it has a soul, before it self-terminates to disseminate its update to all Geth is a bittersweet ending to the Geth/Quarian quest line.

The ending to the whole game is not bittersweet.  It is a clear-cut downer ending.

Modifié par MadCat221, 24 mars 2012 - 08:11 .


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MadCat221 wrote...

Mordin dying to ensure the True Cure is dispensed with Wrex and Bakara in control is a bittersweet ending to the Krogan quest line.

Legion spending less than a minute with actualized intelligence, with Tali saying it has a soul, before it self-terminates to disseminate its update to all Geth is a bittersweet ending to the Geth/Quarian quest line.

The ending to the whole game is not bittersweet.  It is a clear-cut downer ending.


QFT

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What I'm depressed about is that Kaidan says to FemShep 'I can't lose you again', in the final goodbye scene. It's not the words, but the way Sbarge delivers them, that makes you just think BioWare is kicking the poor guy in the gut.

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Yeah I've just started my second playthrough, but I doubt I will be able to continue.

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I'm on my third playthrough, and I'm still laughing my ass off at some of the things I hear.

But I was gonna make a femshep from scratch (ME1), but it seems kind of pointless now.

Ah, well. That's what headcanon is for.

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i image more and more time my Female Shepard whit Liara on Thessia,

i image more and more time Shepard and Liara with their daughter,

i image more adventure whit Shapard and Liara,

I waited the promise of eternal love for my Female Shapard and Liara,

i found this in ME3, but I lost for the ending,

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I feel that Ash - while her scenes were very good - got the short end of the stick. She really has maybe 3 big ones after the two hospital talks. And then the fairwell... hell, I would have liked the marriage/happily ever after we were promised, but I guess my Shepard'll have to surfice with becoming part of every creature in the galaxy (synthesis) or just staring up at the stars wondering what could have been and dying a very lonely man ('best' destruction).

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Jestina wrote...

I could care less about Rannoch. Tali jumping off a cliff was something i've been waiting for...though I would have rather killed her myself.


:crying: How could you hate Tali? She's so adorable and awkward :wub:

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No.
I thought the endings were okay. A bit sad, but still filled of hope.
Andyway I enjoy playing a game, not imaginating what could happen after the game.

Shepard's & Garrus' Goodbye was very sad, but beautiful.

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I definitely believe that sometimes fantastic experiences are not happy or even fun. Strangely, the part that really dragged me down was the first part on Earth -- battling through the ruins against hordes of enemies with that deafeningly loud screech/throb of the Reaper in the background, with everything shaking. It was pretty much assaulting my mind in as many ways as it could. It was an active struggle to force myself through that part. I'm glad I did though. I think it was *very* well done.

ME3 is fun for the most part though I have to say, though I'm not entirely sure what became of ME2 being the "darkest" game in the series. There is very little that is light-hearted in ME3. It's totally great (though I won't bring the "endings" up here) -- but you *really* have to be in the right mind to replay it, or even consider doing so.

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I'm not finishing ME 3 ever again, that's all I can say. There's depressing ends, and then there's depressing ends, where the cries of a billion lost souls are hungrily eaten up by a mad god. ME 3 is definitely of the latter sort.

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Avolie wrote...

No.
I thought the endings were okay. A bit sad, but still filled of hope.
Andyway I enjoy playing a game, not imaginating what could happen after the game.

Shepard's & Garrus' Goodbye was very sad, but beautiful.


Hope? Everyone and everything was destroyed because Shepard caved in to starchild.

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I went into the game assuming it would end with Shepard making an heroic sacrifice, so that part doesn't bother me. I do wish the ending had provided more closure. I don't think "Lots of speculation from everyone" should have been the goal for the ending of an epic trilogy. That said, I don't hate it enough not to play it again.

Modifié par HopHazzard, 24 mars 2012 - 01:17 .


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Where's my Ashley's Hug? Where BioWare?

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HopHazzard wrote...

I went into the game assuming it would end with Shepard making an heroic sacrifice, so that part doesn't bother me. I do wish the ending had provided more closure. I don't think "Lots of speculation from everyone" should have been the goal for the ending of an epic trilogy. That said, I don't hate it enough not to play it again.



Pretty much this, but part of me was sort of hoping that Shepard could have a lil'Shepard with Ashley.

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Gotta admit that the final goodbye scene between a romanced Garrus and FemShep was what finally made me cry.

I choked up bad at Mordin's sacrifice.

I choked up worse at Legion's sacrifice.

But having spoiled myself on the endings and knowing I could never pick "control" and genocide my geth buddies, I went through that final scene with Garrus... him begging Shepard to come back alive... and me knowing she was going to her death via "synthesis". That gutted me. Totally got choked up and had a few tears, and said out loud to the screen, "I'm so sorry, Garrus. She's not coming back."

You'll never be alone.

Never.

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Made Nightwing wrote...

What I'm depressed about is that Kaidan says to FemShep 'I can't lose you again', in the final goodbye scene. It's not the words, but the way Sbarge delivers them, that makes you just think BioWare is kicking the poor guy in the gut.


Tali has a similar line if 'manced, something like "I want more time".

DragonRacer wrote...

Gotta admit that the final goodbye scene between a romanced Garrus and FemShep was what finally made me cry.

I choked up bad at Mordin's sacrifice.

I choked up worse at Legion's sacrifice.

But
having spoiled myself on the endings and knowing I could never pick
"control" and genocide my geth buddies, I went through that final scene
with Garrus... him begging Shepard to come back alive... and me knowing
she was going to her death via "synthesis". That gutted me. Totally got
choked up and had a few tears, and said out loud to the screen, "I'm so
sorry, Garrus. She's not coming back."

You'll never be alone.

Never.

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If you pick Destroy and have enough war assets, you live, casting doubt on Catalyst Kid's claim that it will kill all synthetics (including the partially synthetic You... especially considering you were at the freakin' flashpoint ).  Furthermore... if you make peace with the Quarians and say all the right things to EDI, both of them evolve beyond the cold logic of machines and become something more.  EDI even says that she feels "alive".  Write in your HeadCanon that those evolutions in their psyches made them resilient towards the reaper killwave, since it's obvious that Catalyst Kid for all its agelessness didn't develop beyond cold logic, and the Reapers certainly didn't either.

And you can also chalk it up to a self-preservation lie as per Catalyst Kid's inability to understand anything other than cold machine logic.

Modifié par MadCat221, 24 mars 2012 - 05:19 .