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[LadyofRivendell]

Avolie wrote...

Shepard's & Garrus' Goodbye was very sad, but beautiful.

This had me sobbing more than anything, to be honest, and I didn't even romance Garrus. What made it worse was that I actually believed it when I told everyone we'd all make it out of there alive.

[Bruddajakka]

Meh I was always expecting the ending to be Space Hey-Zeus scarificing himself for our sins. So it doesn't really effect my enjoyment of the rest of the game.

[danicoro]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

I forget about the ending when I start playing.
It's when I stop playing that I remember what happens, and that makes me depressed.

This, so much. I replayed some of the earlier missions and was having a great time. Then I stopped playing and remembered the ending and UGH.

[Bad Cupcake]

So, I finished the game at 5 in the morning, couldn't believe my eyes at what was happening, tried all three endings, still couldn't believe what was happening... ragequit and then the next morning, I'm sitting on the couch watching my 5-year-old play his Wall-E game and I just burst out crying.

I couldn't take it. I'm on my second playthrough and if it weren't for headcanon, I couldn't do it.

[CptData]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Avolie wrote...

Shepard's & Garrus' Goodbye was very sad, but beautiful.

This had me sobbing more than anything, to be honest, and I didn't even romance Garrus. What made it worse was that I actually believed it when I told everyone we'd all make it out of there alive.

Yeah, Garrus' "farewell" was perfectly done. Same for romanced Ashley, but Garrus? Heck with it. It felt like dying to me ...

[Obcasus Nex]

I feel your pain! I have been miserable for the past week or so since finishing. I can't replay and other games arn't cutting it.

Stuck inside revising for my degree and I can't go out and get pissed with my mates because my exams are soon, so I was relying on mass effect for distraction.

why the hell did they have to end it that way?!?

[kyg_20X6]

First playthrough I found the Liara dialogue incredibly sweet & touching. Especially the scene on the way to Cerberus HQ. But all of it really. Then when I finished it, I thought, "****, none of that is gonna happen". No blue babies.

I started a second playthrough (with Tali as LI) but just felt such a sense of despondency on Mars that I stopped. Then I read the IDT (this was a week after release) and that got me to continue. But all the conversations with Tali where she talks about her love and commitment to Shepard, that she'll never leave him, "I want more time!". Ugh! I mean, I can't see this and not get depressed (I'm not a heartless bastard). It's the same deal, it's not gonna happen. No quiet life on Rannoch.

Then I did a 3rd playthrough as a paragade that finally ended up with Garrus. And although I wasn't as wrapped in their relationship as the others, the scenes were still touching; especially the last goodbye on Earth. Same thing as the others, more loss on both sides.

You know the scene I think ruins things the most (especially headcannon-wise)? The Normandy crash. It gives the impression your LI (who said they'd never leave you, ever!) abandoned you on Earth and fled. Then they get out of the Normandy with a look of contentment (even though they apparently just lost their leader/lover). I can't get my headcannon past that. Sometimes I can, like when I'm not playing, but as soon as I'm back in it returns. Headcannon, for me at any rate, only works if the game gives you the openings. IDT helps but I'm more and more thinking that BW won't be doing it. And anyway, we shouldn't have to resort to headcannon for this stuff anyway. That we don't know what happens to our friends, and Shepard, after all this time, effort and emotional investment is a travesty!

Now I'm doing a renegade playthrough with Ashley (ME1) & Miranda (ME2). I don't know how it will turn out, probably be just as heartbreaking. Hoping the renegade stance might negate some of my empathy but probably not.

You might wonder why I keep doing playthroughs if it's not fun. Well, the gameplay is fun and I'd like to experience the game as each class and try and see as many different outcomes as I can. And the 'promise' of closure from BW down the track. But yeah, the dialogue (you know the ones, usually accompanied by piano) are exruciatingly depressing. Hell, it even bleeds over into when I'm not playing.

[Kilshrek]

kyg_20X6 wrote...
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I don't know how you do it. I can't stand the thought of going through another ending where Shepard and Liara end up on the other side of the galaxy. And Shepard may be dying alone in some rubble.

Modifié par Kilshrek, 25 mars 2012 - 12:02 .

[Hadeedak]

Control actually kind of cheered me up. It's still a fun game. I wish you weren't required to figure out 90% of what you think happened in the last 10 minutes and make up your theories, but as sad is it is that my Shepard died without coming back to Garrus.... QUEEN OF THE REAPERS.

Also this comic someone linked in the femShep thread sums it up and makes me happy. Why be down when you can have fun? Hell yes, I wish the endings were a lot clearer, but eh.

[Bruddajakka]

"No Shepard you are the Reapers. Then Shepard was the Reapers."


....which means he could probably build himself a new body.

[Hadeedak]

Bruddajakka wrote...

"No Shepard you are the Reapers. Then Shepard was the Reapers."


....which means he could probably build himself a new body.

"This platform is optimized for VANGUARD CHARGE. Please keep it in broadcasting range of the Citadel."

[Twilight_Princess]

I went in blind...so when I said goodbye to garrus, I believed will all my heart that my shepard was going to stagger back to him after kicking the reapers asses once and for all. I mean, bioware are all about choices right? Why wouldn't there be a kind of ending where my shep makes it back? Where if I worked hard enough I would get a scene with them embracing at the end. And it's not just the LI it's everything, there was was no closure...and now that I am aware of this it adds new context to everything I do in the games.

[HopHazzard]

What I'm getting from this thread is that my assumption that Shepard wasn't going to make it out of the game alive and my unwillingness to pick the destroy option at the end saved me a lot of heartache.

[kyg_20X6]

Kilshrek wrote...

I don't know how you do it. I can't stand the thought of going through another ending where Shepard and Liara end up on the other side of the galaxy. And Shepard may be dying alone in some rubble.

I don't know either, or 'why'. I think I'm just forcing myself to get my imports done and then move on to something else. It's almost workmanlike. Hopefully whatever they announce in April will actually make the game, and all the interactions, enjoyable again.

[eoinnx03]

This is exactly how I feel about the ending. Thanks O.P. it does help if you just don't play the ending and just head cannon it.

[Hadeedak]

Everyone in this thread is such a pessimist with their headcanon. Or maybe I'm unreasonably happy. But come on, guys. FTL is pretty fast in the Mass Effect universe! Fuel isn't hard to make! Communication's instant and the Normandy has a QEC installed with a direct link to Hackett! Even if the indoctrination people are wrong, the blue babies for Liara people are not precluded.

Me, I like control because I worked damn hard to keep my geth alive. >:[

[Kilshrek]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

I don't know either, or 'why'. I think I'm just forcing myself to get my imports done and then move on to something else. It's almost workmanlike. Hopefully whatever they announce in April will actually make the game, and all the interactions, enjoyable again.

I wish I shared your optimism, others do, I've seen. But me? I've been boiled in a soup of cynicism. I feel Bioware honestly felt those endings were good enough, and they could get away with it. I'm happy that many felt the same way I did, and we were numerous enough to not Bioware get away with it, at least not without a fight.

As far as I'm concerned, ME 3 ended after Anderson died. The Crucible worked as it said on the tin, and the Reapers go byebye. Shepard staggers back to Liara, and they retire to some far away planet. The. Frickin. End.

[kyg_20X6]

Kilshrek wrote...

I wish I shared your optimism, others do, I've seen. But me? I've been boiled in a soup of cynicism. I feel Bioware honestly felt those endings were good enough, and they could get away with it. I'm happy that many felt the same way I did, and we were numerous enough to not Bioware get away with it, at least not without a fight.

As far as I'm concerned, ME 3 ended after Anderson died. The Crucible worked as it said on the tin, and the Reapers go byebye. Shepard staggers back to Liara, and they retire to some far away planet. The. Frickin. End.

Trust me, I'm not really optimistic. I wouldn't be this depressed if I was. I think there is a *chance* that BW might deliver some closure (that's what they're promising, at any rate) but I'm not sure how likely that is. If they don't, I'll probably be right back here after their announcement raging with the rest of you (if I have the energy). But, ATM, I don't see what we can do except (painfully) wait until April. They refuse to discuss it anywhere 'til then.

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 25 mars 2012 - 12:38 .

[Kilshrek]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Trust me, I'm not really optimistic. I wouldn't be this depressed if I was. I think there is a *chance* that BW might deliver some closure (that's what they're promising, at any rate) but I'm not sure how likely that is. If they don't, I'll probably be right back here after their announcement raging with the rest of you. But, ATM, I don't see what we can do except (painfully) wait until April. They refuse to discuss it anywhere 'til then.

Honestly, so far as I can see they're promising "clarification" for their "loyal" fans. If it all goes the way of DA 2, I suspect DLC purchases weren't up to scratch, so they didn't bother following through with their "expansion". I sure as hell didn't buy any DA 2 DLC, I figure loyalty goes both ways, anyway.

[Xannerz]

I can't motivate myself to play anymore.

Mass Effect 3 is a cool game overall, but I just... can't.

[Apathy1989]

MadCat221 wrote...

Mordin dying to ensure the True Cure is dispensed with Wrex and Bakara in control is a bittersweet ending to the Krogan quest line.

Legion spending less than a minute with actualized intelligence, with Tali saying it has a soul, before it self-terminates to disseminate its update to all Geth is a bittersweet ending to the Geth/Quarian quest line.

The ending to the whole game is not bittersweet.  It is a clear-cut downer ending.

Yep. These deaths were sacrifice that fulfilled a specific need in the moment. Shepherds was just pointless. I really wanted to settle down with the LI, and have Garrus be the little blue kids godfather. 

[kyles3]

There are a lot of things about the ending that don't make sense, that don't feel real. But Shepard dying alone, away from her friends and the love of her life, that was always in the cards. That part, at least, feels real. I know not everyone is looking for realism and I respect that, but without that aspect it's hard for me to take a story seriously enough to let it impact me. Shepard's story definitely impacted me.

The ending is depressing, sure, but it's not the whole story. It doesn't take anything away from the story for me--if anything, it enhances it. On subsequent playthroughs of ME2 all the talk of suicidal odds rang a little hollow knowing I could bring everyone out alive. In ME3 there are no punches pulled, and I have to respect that even if I kind of hate it.

Modifié par kyles3, 25 mars 2012 - 02:13 .

[kyg_20X6]

bump

[MrAtomica]

Telling Liara "I'll always come back."

Yeah, I feel like a real **** right about now.

"Sure, hon, we'll definitely get lost up there and start a family!"

Then Chuck Testa comes in and slaps a big 'ol "NOPE!" over the galaxy. Fun stuff.