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[DranakShadow]

Geth. They're less likely to shoot at the ship you're in.

[jspiess]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

I wonder how many of you pro-geth people chose the Destroy ending.

Indoc Theory FTW

[Palidane]

I am shocked that people are choosing which race to genocide based on whether they like one person or not. Really guys? Really?

Anyway, I was dreading this choice leading up to ME3, but I knew what I had to do. Geth might not have a bigger fleet, but definitely a more technologically advanced one. The Geth actually have an infantry force. Quarians take one hit and die, Geth are freaking made of metal. The Geth are standing on a mountain of moral high ground.

I was still semi debating it in my head, but then I did the Virtual Reality side quest in ME3.
"Please specify if it has failed assigned tasks. We will reprogram."
"Creator? This unit is ready to serve. What has it done wrong? What have we-"

At that moment, I knew there was nothing anyone could do to make me kill the Geth.

Modifié par Palidane, 24 mars 2012 - 04:18 .

[Billabong2011]

Geth. No contest. I mean I'll forge peace between the two every time, but in a one or the other ultimatum situation, the geth. The end.

[FemmeShep]

I would always go with Quarian. Geth are robots created by the Quarian. So if I'm putting value on life, I would always go organic over.

It would be like asking me if I would rather save AI or humans that created them. Of course I would save humans over robots.

[Bigdoser]

Palidane wrote...

I am shocked that people are choosing which race to genocide based on whether they like one person or not. Really guys? Really?

Anyway, I was dreading this choice leading up to ME3, but I knew what I had to do. Geth might not have a bigger fleet, but definitely a more technologically advanced one. The Geth actually have an infantry force. Quarians take one hit and die, Geth are freaking made of metal. The Geth are standing on a mountain of moral high ground.

I was still semi debating it in my head, but then I did the Virtual Reality side quest in ME3.
"Please specify if it has failed assigned tasks. We will reprogram."
"Creator? This unit is ready to serve. What has it done wrong? What have we-"

At that moment, I knew there was nothing anyone could do to make me kill the Geth.

Exactly my renshep was really annoyed that the quarians attacked the geth in the middle of a WAR. Lets not forget firing on a certain ship when it was powered down and overall geth are more usefull for the war effort since quarians can die soon as they get a hole in their suit. The stuff in the geth consensus was the icing on the cake if I had to choose between geth or quarians. I will always pick geth. 

I picked destroy since I think the child is full of crap since destory was meant to kill me yet I am alive so I presume that the geth survived. 

Modifié par Bigdoser, 24 mars 2012 - 04:31 .

[G Kevin]

jspiess wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...

Geth. Refusing to acknowledge a mistake your people made 300 years ago is regrettable, failing to learn from it understandable, choosing to repeat it though is unacceptable. It speaks to the Quarians nature that they've chosen this path knowing full well it failed in the past and they are not any better off. If someone repeatedly picks fights they have no chance of winning you let them get what's coming to them.

and they fired on me because the ship was powered down

Correct me if I'm wrong, but again was it not admiral Gerral that was the man with the "itchy trigger-finger?" What Gerrel did was unacceptable but for all I know, there was no other alternative to replace his position.

As previosuly stated, the Quarians never knew that the Geth were peaceful. They were told that they were hostile at all times. So it makes perfect sense, that they would not be as acceptable to the concept of peace with the Geth. Should we condemn a the citizens of a country for the poor decisions of their government or leaders?

[DPSSOC]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...
I wonder how many of you pro-geth people chose the Destroy ending.

I do, and I deeply regret it.  I actually had trouble bringing myself to do it because of the Geth and EDI who would also be destroyed by my actions.  In the end though I had to make sure the Reapers were gone, not simply delayed again.

jspiess wrote...

DPSSOC wrote...
Geth. Refusing to acknowledge a mistake your people made 300 years ago is regrettable, failing to learn from it understandable, choosing to repeat it though is unacceptable. It speaks to the Quarians nature that they've chosen this path knowing full well it failed in the past and they are not any better off. If someone repeatedly picks fights they have no chance of winning you let them get what's coming to them.

and they fired on me because the ship was powered down

This just balanced out the personal nature of the choice. Geth have tried to kill me, Quarians have tried to kill me, it all balances out. Now while the Geth have tried to kill me more they've never tried to kill me while I was on their side so the Quarians get extra points for creativity.

[darthnick427]

Billabong2011 wrote...

Geth. No contest. I mean I'll forge peace between the two every time, but in a one or the other ultimatum situation, the geth. The end.

Of course you choose the Geth. Legion is your all time favorite! Lol

[darthnick427]

The Quarians if it came down to it. Just because I don't want Tali to die. However.....If Legion lived if you betrayed the Quarians.....well.......then I'd have to rethink things...

[alx119]

Quarians, they can create more Geth!

[Makatak]

KillerHappyFace wrote...

I thought that the climax of the Quarian-Geth conflict was beautiful. The choice, in particular, was really cool --  with absolutely no conclusive 'right' answer. Every way to end the conflict was 100% rationally justifiable.

Sure, peace would be considered the best possibility, but at the time there were significant reasons to doubt it.

So, if you HAD to choose Quarian or Geth, with no peaceful resolution possible and knowing only what Shepard would have known at the time of the choice, who would you choose?

EDIT: Also, please refrain from nihilism.

I'd choose the Quarians.
   
   -Sure, they started (and perpetuated) the war, but there are innocents within the fleet with no desire for war. The very nature of the Geth necessitates that if the Geth killed the Quarians, every single Geth would be culpable.
    -Legion was becoming very difficult totrust, because it stopped trusting Shepard. It sprung the Primes without telling anyone. It kept Reaper upgrades to itself. It decided the lives of all off-planet platforms were worth more than an entire race and culture.
    -There are sizeable numbers of on-world Geth. If Legion was willing to sacrifice some Geth (who aren't fully individualized at this point) to save both Geth and Quarian, he'd have postponed the upload.
    -Despite being fully capable of doing so, the Geth never once responded with attempts at diplomacy instead of military might (in the current conflict). All diplomacy had to come from Shepard.
    -The Geth knowingly sided with the Reapers. Furthermore, there was no guaruntee that the Reapers couldn't find a way to conrol them again.
    -Betraying Legion makes it die in a much more dramatic manner. Also, Tali uses a murder knife! (this one isn't serious.)

In fact, for these very reasons, I chose the Quarians over a peaceful resolution in my second playthrough. If I ever play ME3 again, I may end up killing the Geth more often than brokering peace. To me, it seems to be the most secure choice given what Shepard knows at that point in the story.

EDIT: BSN format fixed. Some clarifications.

Good thing I don't have to choose.

Oh wait, that's right; I just went alternate ending on this thread. Boo-ya. 

[shadey]

how many times have the geth chosen to side with the reapers simply because the reapers offer them a choice to. There's really no morality in there choice.

they'll quite happily side with the reapers to wipe out every other race, not just quarian if it means they can exist.

[deaditegonzo102]

Quarians. It is like choosing between a laptop and a Dog, obviously the dog takes the advantage in that scenario.

This is essentially the question you are asking: [IRobot] "When does a perceptual schematic become consciousness? When does a difference engine become the search for truth? When does a personality simulation become the bitter mote... of a soul?" Quarians have always been like people, the Geth are like toasters that emulated people. You cant honestly blame the quarians for panicking, thats exactly how we'd react. A robot that is self-aware is extremely dangerous.

[humes spork]

Geth, the quarians in the full context of their history are kind of jackwads. I can't really blame the geth for "saying" "screw it, after 300 years of trying to let bygones be bygones if they still want to genocide us we're dropping the hammer once and for all".

Modifié par humes spork, 24 mars 2012 - 04:40 .

[StarcloudSWG]

I would have to make a meta-game decision. Knowing I'm planning on destroying the Reapers, which also destroys the Geth and Edi, I'd go with the Quarians.

[DPSSOC]

shadey wrote...
how many times have the geth chosen to side with the reapers simply because the reapers offer them a choice to. There's really no morality in there choice.

They've done it twice.  First it was a small minority of the Geth who wanted to fast track to their end goal, second it was the entire race when the Quarians threatened them with extinction.  The first time was dealt with and the second wouldn't have happened if the Quarian Admiralty had two brain cells to knock together.

shadey wrote...
they'll quite happily side with the reapers to wipe out every other race, not just quarian if it means they can exist.

News flash so would any other race.  If the Reapers extended the offer you can bet the Turians, Asari, Salarians, Humans, Volus, Hanar, Drell, Elcor, Vorcha, Krogan, Yahg, or anybody they'd take it.  If it comes down to help us wipe out everyone else or watch your species die nobody is picking the second option.

[pharsti]

Palidane wrote...

I am shocked that people are choosing which race to genocide based on whether they like one person or not. Really guys? Really?

Anyway, I was dreading this choice leading up to ME3, but I knew what I had to do. Geth might not have a bigger fleet, but definitely a more technologically advanced one. The Geth actually have an infantry force. Quarians take one hit and die, Geth are freaking made of metal. The Geth are standing on a mountain of moral high ground.

I was still semi debating it in my head, but then I did the Virtual Reality side quest in ME3.
"Please specify if it has failed assigned tasks. We will reprogram."
"Creator? This unit is ready to serve. What has it done wrong? What have we-"

At that moment, I knew there was nothing anyone could do to make me kill the Geth.

Sure i am, just the way i am really, see, i care about Tali, therefore the choice of letting the Quarians die is barred to me, i dont care about most strangers, but ill do what i must for someone i care. Its as simple as that. Obviously, my Paragon Shepard saved them both, but if i had to choose then yes, the Geth would have died.

Now, when getting to the destroy ending, i couldnt do it, not because of the geth, because of EDI, weird uh?
Would have blown them all in an instant if not for EDI being there, went with the green space magic because of that >_<

Even admitting that the geth were not on the wrong here, Quarians were just stupid, that would still be my choice.
Maybe im evil >_>

[shadey]

DPSSOC wrote...

They've done it twice.  First it was a small minority of the Geth who wanted to fast track to their end goal, second it was the entire race when the Quarians threatened them with extinction.  The first time was dealt with and the second wouldn't have happened if the Quarian Admiralty had two brain cells to knock together.

I like how "small minority" was every geth in the first game.

anyway that is twice too many times, regardless of what the quarians and geth did to each other that doesn't excuse geth then attacking everyone else.

News flash so would any other race.  If the Reapers extended the offer you can bet the Turians, Asari, Salarians, Humans, Volus, Hanar, Drell, Elcor, Vorcha, Krogan, Yahg, or anybody they'd take it.  If it comes down to help us wipe out everyone else or watch your species die nobody is picking the second option.

well I guess no one should be mad with the illusive man then right.

[LadyofRivendell]

Geth. They're really the innocent ones in all of this, the Quarians just seem a bit... I can't think of the right word. Anyways, the entire feud is their fault, and they were more than ready to destroy all the Geth or be destroyed, all through their own stupidity.
Or maybe my dislike for Tali's complaining is getting to me.

[seek37]

I would choose the geth. sorry tali... for one the geth never did anything to deserve destruction (not legion's faction anyway). they only ever acted in self defense. whereas the quarians were and have always been the aggressors. If they hadn't tried to annihilate the geth they could have coexisted but again they chose violence. and admiral garrel didn't exactly give the best of impressions.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Quarians. The Geth are machines and prior to Legion uploading reaper code are not individually self aware.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 24 mars 2012 - 04:57 .

[jspiess]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but again was it not admiral Gerral that was the man with the "itchy trigger-finger?" What Gerrel did was unacceptable but for all I know, there was no other alternative to replace his position.

As previosuly stated, the Quarians never knew that the Geth were peaceful. They were told that they were hostile at all times. So it makes perfect sense, that they would not be as acceptable to the concept of peace with the Geth. Should we condemn a the citizens of a country for the poor decisions of their government or leaders?"
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Either way, I did not take kindly to that and punched the crap out of that tool. I still made peace between the two, but if I was unable to do so he would have doomed his race for being a jack****. 

Modifié par jspiess, 24 mars 2012 - 04:56 .

[effortname]

Quarians are kind of space dicks.

[blitzing bear]

Geth of course, never really liked tali anyway...