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So if people hate Ashley because they think she's "racist", then why do they like Wrex and Javik?


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Mathias

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Yeah i'm opening up this can of worms again. Now before you start making up excuses for Wrex and Javik, lemme ask you this. If I hate the British as a whole, for the crap that went down 300 years ago, would you make up excuses for me? There really is no real excuse out there for hating an entire race based on the actions of a few. Ashley had trust issues with other aliens but eventually grew out of it and trusted them as allies.

But then you've got Wrex who just openly insult Salarians and Turians in front of them, even go as far as joking about eating them. Then you've got Javik who just straight out trolls people. Not to mention there are other characters in the game that have made statements about trusting other aliens and what not. So why is Ashley the exception? Because she's human?

I don't know why it took me this long to notice this.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 24 mars 2012 - 03:31 .


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Midarenkov

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I'm not sure, although I think it has to do with their sense of humor, whereas Ashley is a very serious person. I think it's one of her better traits (the lack of comic relief) but that does mean less fan appeal :) IMO ofc.

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demin8891

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'Case Wrex and Javik have a hilarious, dry sense of humor. That's their "Saving the cat" trait. They're douchebags, yeah, but there's an endearing quality that makes you like them nonetheless.

Ashley is just a ****.

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Interesting! I'm not sure personally, as someone who hates Ashley, loves Wrex, and is "meh" about Javik.

Ashley just grinds my gears... a lot. That's all. Can't explain it, tbh.

EDIT: Kaidan too, but that's neither here nor there.

Modifié par Janus382, 24 mars 2012 - 03:33 .


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blooregard

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wrex is funny
javik is funny
ashley isn't funny

Modifié par blooregard, 24 mars 2012 - 03:34 .


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rymajn3

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She's easy to hate. Same goes for Kaiden.

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Taleroth

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Nobody hates her just because she's racist. Well, I can't say nobody, but I can say I very much doubt it's many. It's at least a couple of issues, including that particular issue, and that she has absolutely no redeeming qualities to make up for it.

Javik and Wrex have redeeming qualities.

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Atrabilious

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Javik went to sleep, woke up, and what had effectively been his era's equivalents of cats and dogs were now ruling the galaxy. And even then, they still weren't as advanced as his society was.

If he hadn't viewed everyone and everything with contempt I would be surprised.
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wathc me tyep

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Wrex jokes around but he's a teddybear at heart. Javik hates everyone. Ashley is systematically racist.

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Mathias

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I have no qualms with people disliking her personality. But if you hate her for the sole reason that you think she's racist, then dude...take a look at the other squaddies you might be hanging out with.

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demin8891 wrote...

'Case Wrex and Javik have a hilarious, dry sense of humor. That's their "Saving the cat" trait. They're douchebags, yeah, but there's an endearing quality that makes you like them nonetheless.

Ashley is just a ****.



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Imortalfalcon

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demin8891 wrote...

'Case Wrex and Javik have a hilarious,
dry sense of humor. That's their "Saving the cat" trait. They're
douchebags, yeah, but there's an endearing quality that makes you like
them nonetheless.

Ashley is just a ****.


But ****es love smiley faces.

Modifié par Imortalfalcon, 24 mars 2012 - 03:35 .


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Mbednar

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demin8891 wrote...

'Case Wrex and Javik have a hilarious, dry sense of humor. That's their "Saving the cat" trait. They're douchebags, yeah, but there's an endearing quality that makes you like them nonetheless.

Ashley is just a ****.


Yeah I'm gonna agree with this.

Although there were times I wanted to bash Javik's head in.

Neverfelt any kind of ill will towards Wrex.  Felt his "douchey-ness"  was both funny, and justified.

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Mathias

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So what you people are saying is that it's ok to be a racist as long as you're funny about it?

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Because Wrex and Javik have actual reasons to be the douchebags they are.

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GreyGhost1989

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I don't hate Ashley because she is racist. I hate Ashley because she comes off as super insecure in ME1.

Haven't seen her in ME3 yet, but I hear she is even more annoying that Kaidan about the whole Cerberus thing so I'm sure that would be the reason I hate her in ME3.

Oh, and what Zardoc said.

Modifié par GreyGhost1989, 24 mars 2012 - 03:36 .


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Mr. Big Pimpin

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wathc me tyep wrote...

Javik hates everyone.

No, he cares about the squad. He liiiikes them.

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 24 mars 2012 - 03:36 .


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LostHero2k9

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Wrex is by far one of the best characters in the ME-series. Only Mordin can top him if you ask me...
Especially when Wrex survives until the end of ME3. His character developement is more than just awesome.
Same goes for Grunt btw. Damn i like that frontpig :).

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Ashley is painfully realistic. Most hate for her can be reduced to that simple fact.

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Unit-Alpha

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The OP is racist against racist people.

She's a bit xenophobic, but that's about it.

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I had no problem with Ashley or her character in ME1. I have a problem with her in ME3, but that's mostly because she doesn't actually interact with the rest of the crew on the Normandy.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

So what you people are saying is that it's ok to be a racist as long as you're funny about it?


In a fictional universe? Yeah, because it can be entertaining. Doesn't mean we approve of the message, just the delivery.

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Mbednar

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

So what you people are saying is that it's ok to be a racist as long as you're funny about it?


Oh cmon, don't take it so seriously bro ;)

Its a game.

They make us laugh.

We just don't like Ashley.

Plz don't get angry.

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I don't like Ashley because she's annoying.

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Wabajakka

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First off, Javik is a straight G, nuff said (African prince, K bye)

Second, Wrex is also a straight G and everyones boy (ie. gives you daps on tuchunka)

Ashley's racism can't be overlooked due to the rest of her flaws (whining, corny poetry, daddy issues, etc)