knightnblu wrote...
MegaBadExample wrote...
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knightnblu wrote...
BioWare screwed over Ashley. They began with a tough NCO who worked her guts out to excel and took her duties to the Alliance and her men seriously. When she met Shepard, he was something different. She expressed an interest and the spark took hold and kindled a romantic flame. Unfortunately, that woman was dead by ME2.
In ME2 we meet a young woman who has moved up in rank, but distrusts Shepard with every fiber of her being. She calls him a traitor to his face and then stalks off. When ME3 rolls around we find out that she has not contacted him since the tepid email that she sent after Horizon. Six months without a single word or even inquiry regarding him. She even refused Admiral Anderson's request for her to go and see him, such is her disdain for him.
Then all of a sudden Shepard and Williams find themselves in the uncomfortable position of being ship mates once again. That is until the Cerberus android nearly crushes her skull on Mars. Girlfriend pulls through and is made a Spectre with Shepard's support and she aims her sidearm at his head with her finger on the trigger as a thank you. After somehow managing to talk psycho babe down, you save the Council one more time to Williams chagrin.
Who is the Williams that we get in ME3, because it sure as hell isn't the woman we met in ME. Tali is pretty much the same, so is Liara, but Williams? Not so much. I have seen every excuse in the book for Williams' bizarre behavior. The apologists are legion in fact, but apologizing and excusing and licking her backside like a little lamb doesn't change the fact that she is bat guano crazy.
That is why I have less than no use for Lt. Cmdr. Williams. Was her comment about not being able to tell the aliens from the animals racist? Sure it was, and I don't buy for a second that it was a "mistake" in dialog. That was just the excuse when the word "racism" popped up. But just as Pressley worked through his bout of racism, so to did Williams. So in the final analysis Williams is no longer racist, she's just psychotic.
That's why I send her to Admiral Hackett. Perhaps with him she can finally receive the help that she so desperately needs. Plus he has armed security with him 24/7 if she returns to the "pull a gun on a superior officer" meme again.
Cute, but psycho is definitely her flavor.
She distrusts the fact that Shepard is working for a TERRORIST ORGANISATION! What part of this are you not getting? Yes, she calls him a traitor, BECAUSE HE TURNED HIS COAT! It doesn't matter what headcanon you have cooked up. Shepard swore and oath to the Alliance, an oath that continued to apply even after resurrection. Now, some interpret that loyalty to humanity and the galaxy means more, but that doesn't change the fact that he did betray what he previously stood for.
This is actually pretty comical since Admiral Hacket is also working with a terrorist organization during Arrival. Does this make him a traitor? Oddly enough, Ash doesn't seem to have a problem trusting admiral hacket.
If I recall Hackett was working with Shepard and ONLY Shepard. No companions, no interaction with Cerberus. Nothing. Just Shepard. And at the time, Shepard can be completely finished with Cerberus as well (completed ME2).
You recall incorrectly. If Shepard was a Cerberus asset, as has been claimed by many Ashley apologists, then Admiral Hackett's patronage is also suspect because he actually trusted and worked with a terrorist. As I recall, Admiral Hackett said that he didn't like Cerberus, but that they were the only ones who were doing anything about the state of the galaxy so he would play nice for now and he also wanted to give that particular terrorist (Shepard) a medal. Funny how that works isn't it?
Because that doesn't seem to hold with the "Shepard is a traitor!!" crowd's ideology. Because if Shepard is a traitor by their definition, then so is Admiral Hackett because he fits the same criteria that they have set up for Shepard. Since Hackett is a traitor by the apologists definition, Anderson must be one as well because he works with and trusts both Hackett and Shepard. Seems like the whole Alliance if filled with turn coats and traitors doesn't it? Or maybe Ashley really is a crazy broad with an itchy trigger finger.
She lies to Shepard telling him that she loved him, but doesn't trust him. Strange kind of love that. She also says that she believes he is no longer with Cerberus, but she obviously doesn't given her constant accusations and questions. Further, she tells him point blank that she will accept his command, but she aims her weapon at his head with her finger on the trigger when push comes to shove and if you shoot her to save the Council that she has endangered, she hopes that the Reapers kill you. How sweet. These don't seem like the actions of a normal girl to me.
How she ever came to the rank of Lt. Cmdr. is beyond me. Rank is far more than a decoration with pretty insignia affixed to the collar or epaulets. It signifies wisdom, judgment, and experience. Williams bears only one of these traits. She is a skilled killer and that is pretty much it. If she actually had wisdom and good judgment she wouldn't be constantly looking for the traitor (Shepard) to sell them all out. In fact, she is far worse than Carth Onasi ever was in KotOR regarding trust issues. If she still trusts Anderson and Hackett, it can only be because she is ignorant that they have worked with and trust each other status post Cerberus. Because by her definition (like her apologists), they are also traitors to the Alliance.
Williams is reckless and her unfounded accusations and lack of trust in her commanding officer is justification enough to strip her of her commission and boot her shapely behind out of the Alliance for brazen insubordination and stupidity before her hard headed insubordination and steadfast disdain gets some poor, dumb, innocent S.O.B. killed.
Of all the possible LIs, only Ashley is this fouled up and that is exactly why Udina wanted to make her a Spectre. He knew that she had not a single ounce of trust for Shepard and that she was feigning respect and esteem for him. In short, her stupidity would allow him to take over the Council. Ashley being a racist compared to that is small potatoes.
Despite her daddy issues, Miranda is a far better companion than the Ashley of ME2 and ME3.
What kind of love is that without trust? Really? Have you went outside? Plenty of people love without trust all the time. Like if your partner cheats, or goes behind your back about something. Do you trust them the same way? No. Do you love them? Yes. Do you want to work out your problems and move passed them? Yes. Wake up a little.
I'm not saying Ashley doesn’t trust Shepard, because she definitely did in MY game.
Ah, yes. So you're annoyed that Ashley said, “I hope the reapers send you to hell…”
Well, duh…. You just shot her?
What the hell did you expect her to say? "Thanks for that." ?
It's your fault if she dies, it is. You didn't even take the time to actually convince her and help her understand your point of view. You completely ignored your comrade in hospital, when she was wounded on YOUR mission, and desperately wanted to fix things. What kind of leader is that? You can't even get someone "like Ash" to believe you're the same person as before, and that Cerberus wasn't controlling your brain with a remote?
Udina said himself, Ashley is incorruptible. She does what she thinks is right, and playing along with Cerberus definitely isn't. Fair play to her.
Say what you want, but the stand-off is a trust test. The whole scenario is set up to test Ashley and Shepard’s trust in each other.
I'll tell you what happened in my game, shall I?
Udine was pressuring her, and ranting on about Cerberus, but Ashley wasn't buying it, she said, "Must have been a bad break-up, those bodies back on Mars were all Cerberus." She DEFENDED him, then lowered her gun without me using a paragon or renegade persuasion AT ALL. That gave me all the proof of trust I needed, especially in THAT kind of situation where she couldn't afford to get it wrong, lives were depending on her, and not just anybody's lives either - the councils to be precise… you know, the most important people in the galaxy? Heard of them?
In the Hospital, Ash says, "case-closed" she got her answers, and that's where it ended for me. The thing with the VS is that everybody can react to them differently, and they do the same. You can't paint them with the same brush for everybody. The whole stand off scene was smooth sailing for my Shepard. I couldn't get Ash to turn on me if I tried (seriously).
If Ashley lives through that scene = she puts all her trust in Shep, takes his word at FACE VALUE and stands down.
If you had to shoot her... well she obviously didn't believe you. And you fail at leadership.
Modifié par MegaBadExample, 29 mai 2012 - 09:42 .
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