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So if people hate Ashley because they think she's "racist", then why do they like Wrex and Javik?


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Skyblade012

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Wrex and Javik don't try to be nice about it.

Although, honestly, I have no real problem with Ashley. She's certainly better than Kaidan.

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Sora Shepherd

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People just don't like humans in this game.

It's all about the other alien races.

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Paparob

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Both Javik and Wrex are incredibly up front about their attitudes. Ashley seems to try to rationalize her bias around the assumption she is still a wonderfully open minded person whilst Javik and Wrex are fully aware they are bastards. I think its her trying to force the fact she is a good person at the same time she is making subtle racist comments is what bugs people.

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Ashley wasnt made effectively infertile, or woke up 50,000 years in the future with all the species around her being things that at one time licked eyes and ate flies.

She is obnoxious, like the majority of humans. They show up, and with barely thirty years of galactic involvement, demand all sorts of things that other species didnt get for centuries. Humanity is a bunch of ****s.

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demin8891

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

So what you people are saying is that it's ok to be a racist as long as you're funny about it?


If they're fictional characters? Yes. Yes it is. Go watch any given Tarantino movie. The characters in almost every single one are heartless and emotionless killers. But, because they amuse you, you like them despite them taking people's lives en masse. That's how fiction works.

Modifié par demin8891, 24 mars 2012 - 03:39 .


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Axolotl Shepard

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Ashley is easy to hate cause all these HATERS JUST JELLY GURL GOT SWAG!

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omgBAMF

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I've had a distaste for Ashley since ME1 when when she started talking about being uber-religious. Her xenophobia doesn't help matters either. Her entire distrusting nature is also a knock against her. I mean, how many ****ing times do I have to tell you to trust me?

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Lord Jaric

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Funny that people call her racist even through she doesn't like Terra Firma for their racist and Cerberus for everything they do to aliens.

Her human dog annology was meant to point out how people will look out for themselves when the going gets though, and you know what, she was right.

Modifié par Lord Jaric, 24 mars 2012 - 03:42 .


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GreyGhost1989

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It's like this:

Wrex: I'm going to eat you, Salarian, because you won't give me back my woman and made it so I can't make babies!

Javik: I don't understand how any of you could have let this crap happen when we gave you warnings. You're as stupid as your ancestors were for not preparing for the Reapers.

Ashley: Shut up Liara! you're stealing Shepards attention away from me! Ugh, Aliens suck! They should bow down to us and help us with everything!

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Dont mind about Ashley, shes on the ignore field.
Love Wrex, wish he was a squadmate.
Hate Javik, wish i could stab his face >_>.

So yeah, Ashley could have it worse...

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Axolotl Shepard wrote...

Ashley is easy to hate cause all these HATERS JUST JELLY GURL GOT SWAG!



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Lord Jaric wrote...

Funny that people call her racist even through she doesn't like Terra Firma for their racist and Cerberus for everything they do to aliens. 

Her human dog annology was meant to point out how people will look out for themselves when the going gets though, and you know what, she was right.

 

She is still a **** about it. And she has more than enough comments that put her right into Terra Firma/Cerberus territory.

Modifié par Zardoc, 24 mars 2012 - 03:43 .


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Lord Jaric wrote...

Funny that people call her racist even through she doesn't like Terra Firma for their racist and Cerberus for everything they do to aliens.


'Cause you have to be a member of a political group in order to hold racist beliefs, amirite?

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Lord Jaric wrote...

Funny that people call her racist even through she doesn't like Terra Firma for their racist and Cerberus for everything they do to aliens.


You can still be racist and not support the KKK

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Simpfan wrote...

Ashley wasnt made effectively infertile, or woke up 50,000 years in the future with all the species around her being things that at one time licked eyes and ate flies.

She is obnoxious, like the majority of humans. They show up, and with barely thirty years of galactic involvement, demand all sorts of things that other species didnt get for centuries. Humanity is a bunch of ****s.

to quote Matriarch Aethyta: "Anthropocentric bag of dicks"

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Lord Jaric wrote...

Funny that people call her racist even through she doesn't like Terra Firma for their racist and Cerberus for everything they do to aliens.


My neighbor would never lynch a black man, and he doesn't like the KKK.

But he also wouldn't let his daughter date a black man.

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Zardoc wrote...

Axolotl Shepard wrote...

Ashley is easy to hate cause all these HATERS JUST JELLY GURL GOT SWAG!



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Lol'd.

Lol'd so hard.

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Never understood all the hate for Ashley

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

The OP is racist against racist people.

She's a bit xenophobic, but that's about it.


He discriminates .. himself?

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I never understood all the complaints some people have about Ashley, everything they point out actually just makes her character that much more rich.

You may not like the type of person she is, but that's your problem.

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she bores me, thats why.

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Lord Jaric

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demin8891 wrote...

Lord Jaric wrote...

Funny that people call her racist even through she doesn't like Terra Firma for their racist and Cerberus for everything they do to aliens.


'Cause you have to be a member of a political group in order to hold racist beliefs, amirite?


I didn't say that. I was pointing out what she had stated. "To bad your party is filled with racist." If that doesn't tell you anything, then I don't know what does.

Modifié par Lord Jaric, 24 mars 2012 - 03:44 .


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I will quote my friend on this one:

"Ashley is the passive aggressive kind. She says she isn't but actually is. When confronted feels the need to justify herself. Javik on the other hand blatantly is and does not feel the need to justify himself. There is something to be said about being the honest a**."

Modifié par Madecologist, 24 mars 2012 - 03:45 .


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Ashley in ME1 is insecure and ignorant. Wrex and Javik are neither. Wrex has a very jaded, cynical wit (and spends just as much if not even more time griping about his own people than he does the other races combined), and Javik is a product of a completely alien culture and his time who merely airs dirty laundry rather than out-and-out insulting races.
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demin8891

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Lord Jaric wrote...

demin8891 wrote...

Lord Jaric wrote...

Funny that people call her racist even through she doesn't like Terra Firma for their racist and Cerberus for everything they do to aliens.


'Cause you have to be a member of a political group in order to hold racist beliefs, amirite?


I didn't say that. I was pointing out what she had stated. "To bad your party is filled with racist." If that doesn't tell you anything, then I don't know what does.


Racists don't usually call themselves racists. That'd be like terrorists calling themselves terrorists. Both groups of people think their beliefs and behavior are justified and exempt from the definition. Personally, I just hate Ashely 'cause she's a ****.

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Because science fiction excels at re-contextualizing concepts found in real-life and puts them in a new light. Wrex and Javik could be considered racist, but since it is re-contextualized into aliens that have suffered under other races (Wrex) and used to rule over them (Javik), we give them the time to justify their actions. Humans, like Ashley, we do not because our social perception/experience make us instantly negative of any racists.

Modifié par HBC Dresden, 24 mars 2012 - 03:47 .

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