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[KingKhan03]

Haha i cant believe Bioware fked ME3 up so bad.

[warrior256]

Chipaway111 wrote...

There may not be any backwards flying Harvesters in ME3 but I'm definitely going back to Skyrim now "/
Will continue holding line since it's the principle of the thing now, why would you do that to your own franchise? (< a question I continue to ask)

You know what? I'm with you there. I'm honestly near the point where I am just holding the line because I do not want to abandon my brothers and sisters in the fight. Bethesda may come out with buggy games (that's an understatement), but they do have one aspect I respect: When the majority of fans complain about something, Bethesda fixes it (Fallout 3 as an example). Bioware, I give you one chance and one chance only. Give us something close to what we want in April or I walk. 

[Foggle]

Honestly, I think this is fine. Good, even. As long as they clear up the **** with the Normandy, squadmates, and mass relays, I think the ending will be at least acceptable. Especially if this update is free.

[Teacher50]

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It has been confirmed, thousands found dead at their computer has been linked to Bio... shock.

[Cloaking_Thane]

I'm not going to lie, I planned to play this game (trilogy) for years to come. Now I'm going to see what The Witcher 2 is all about from CDPR, so far I've only read and heard fantastic things.

[77boy84]

You were the best poster on the BSN.
Hate to see you go, but I can't blame you for not wanting to deal with Bioware's bs anymore.

[Legend78731]

Vromrig wrote...

Twitter reveals getting same bad ending.  New camera angles.

Lost interest.

Bioware dead to me.

Back to Bethesda.

Excellent Mordin voice. Well done.

[Andur4]

This one doesn't listen too closely to twitter, going to wait and see what they have planned in April. Will give up then if endings remain unchanged.

[sistersafetypin]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I particularly like how the tweeter hasn't even completed the game.

I know right? By the time he realizes what he's agreed to it'll be to late

[Vhalkyrie]

sistersafetypin wrote...

Vhalkyrie wrote...

I particularly like how the tweeter hasn't even completed the game.

I know right? By the time he realizes what he's agreed to it'll be to late

The scary thing is, if ME3 hadn't been released over Spring Break where I could complete a play to the end, I'd probably be in his shoes.  "What's the big deal?  Why is everyone so upset?"

Ugh.

[Falcon509]

I've spent over $750.00 on Bioware products. Easily $350.00 on the Mass Effect series alone. Bioware promised a certain ending to their series and didn't deliver. I think i deserve to be upset.

[D Wrecks]

 The ending does not need to be changed - just added to. I argued with myself for a long time whether Bioware meant for us to take what we saw literally or if there was more to it. I've deduced that Bioware had planned to implement an indoctrination story arc since at least as far back as they started development of Mass Effect 3. There is too much evidence for the ending to have been meant to be taken at face value, and not all of that evidence comes from Mass Effect 3:



As early as half way through Mass Effect, we start to learn about Reaper indoctrination looks like. The Rachni Queen explains the Rachni Wars, citing that Reaper taint sounds like "songs the color of oily shadows". What did we see in Mass Effect 3? That's right:



So I don't believe that Bioware had a meeting and discussed the best way to screwjob the playerbase. They sincerely believed that the playerbase would approve of and appreciate this unexpected turn of events - and incidentally, most of us do.

The indoctrination story arc is brilliant - it really is. What Bioware did wrong is that in ending Mass Effect 3 with Shepard's internal final battle, they completely ignored the conflict that had been intensifying since the very first game: the tangible battle against the Reaper invaders. It is obvious that Shepard had been conflicted with a "man versus self" scenario since the beginning of Mass Effect 3. The events that transpired on the Citadel after Harbinger laid Shepard out is an amazing way to resolve that conflict, but it does nothing for the Mass Effect trilogy as a whole.

Who is to say that the real Marauder Shields - the nonhallucinated one - did not put a bullet into Shepard's brain the moment he took a breath? If the Citadel confrontation is a conception solely of Shepard's mind, then what is the real Catalyst - is it even a Reaper or is it just a battery? - and what does the Crucible really do? Where is my Aralakh Company going head-to-head with brutes or the Destiny Ascension blasting a hole through Harbinger? What effect does the EMS have on the parts of the game that aren't a hallucination?

The ending is not FUBAR (****ed up beyond all recognition). Bioware can still address the actual "galaxy versus Reaper" conflict that has been building since the first game without changing a single thing - even for players who picked anything other than the destroy option and subsequently became indoctrinated.

In that regard, here's how I personally imagine it:

if you picked destroy, then the obvious route is to get up and kick Harbinger's ass one way or another and save the goddamn day.

On the other hand, if you picked synthesis or control, when you wake up and pull yourself out of the rubble, you are set upon by a horde of husks, marauders, brutes, banshees, and that crazy-ass indoctrinated Illusive Man concept:



Plus some.

Your objective is still to get to the beam and activate the Crucible, but every time you try to touch it, Harbinger's laser blocks your way. You are forced to fight his army. But at the end of it, it turns out that what you were fighting was not a Reaper army at all. At the end of the wave, in one last dialogue skit reflective of the post-Saren battle and post-"Terminator" battle in the previous two games, your lover comes before you. They reason with you: ask you why you're a monster and why you'd help the Reapers. Right before you blow your own head off, in a fleeting state of clarity, you realize that the Reaper army you had just mowed down are your friends. All husks are actually Vega, Anderson, and Alliance soldiers. All the Banshees are Liara and Asari commandos. All the marauders are Garrus and Palaven's remnants. You just delivered victory to the Reapers.

[Amialis666]

If they don't fix the endings so that it matches the rest of the series I doubt ill buy another EA game...

I have no problem with the results of the ending, my issue is with the way they decided to go from A to B.

If the mass relays being destroyed and having the synthesis option, they could have achieved it without introducing a new character in the last few seconds of the game, destroying game mechanics, and disregarding known lore.

I do still hold some hope, though a small shimmer of a shimmer it may be, that they decide to take the indoctrination theory and run with it. (I had hoped they had this up there sleeve the entire time... but its been way to long, and too much damage has been done to their reputation without them revealing it, and calming the fans.)

[Blc949]

Maybe the announcement is the movie takes place directly after me3?

Its a quirky homeage to gilligans island, but this time its a tropical planet. It starts Rob Shneider...

Ok that sucked, I'm dead inside.

Modifié par Blc949, 24 mars 2012 - 04:59 .

[PsydonZero]

Vromrig wrote...

Sublime82 wrote...

I wouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet. That said... don't get your hopes up.

Conclusion not jumped to.  Given precise information.

Sad day.  Time to drink.

Information far from precise. Numerous possibilities. Vague words, no hint of intent or content.

Ending nonsensical, clarity restores.

Ending inconclusive, closure corrects.

*sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiifffffffffffffffffff* Jumping. To. Conclusions.

[Amialis666]

Just Cav wrote...

In that regard, here's how I personally imagine it:

if you picked destroy, then the obvious route is to get up and kick Harbinger's ass one way or another and save the goddamn day.

On the other hand, if you picked synthesis or control, when you wake up and pull yourself out of the rubble, you are set upon by a horde of husks, marauders, brutes, banshees, and that crazy-ass indoctrinated Illusive Man concept:

*Image Removed*

Plus some.

Your objective is still to get to the beam and activate the Crucible, but every time you try to touch it, Harbinger's laser blocks your way. You are forced to fight his army. But at the end of it, it turns out that what you were fighting was not a Reaper army at all. At the end of the wave, in one last dialogue skit reflective of the post-Saren battle and post-"Terminator" battle in the previous two games, your lover comes before you. They reason with you: ask you why you're a monster and why you'd help the Reapers. Right before you blow your own head off, in a fleeting state of clarity, you realize that the Reaper army you had just mowed down are your friends. All husks are actually Vega, Anderson, and Alliance soldiers. All the Banshees are Liara and Asari commandos. All the marauders are Garrus and Palaven's remnants. You just delivered victory to the Reapers.

This is what I hope for.

[Vhalkyrie]

Blc949 wrote...

Maybe the announcement is the movie takes place directly after me3?

Its a quirky homeage to gilligans island, but this time its a tropical planet. It starts Rob Shneider...

Ok that sucked, I'm dead inside.

How much chance of success does a movie have after this?  This is an epic disaster that puts the entire franchise on the line.  Who do they think would go see a Mass Effect movie?

[Teacher50]

I reject (Just Cav) interpretation... Obviously put some work in to it though. Thanks

[Wowlock]

Ahh yes, ''Feedbacks'' . User reviews we should listen to fix our ending...

We dismissed that claim....

[Reth Shepherd]

I'll hold out until April, see if they have something amazing up their sleeve, but right now hope is draining fast. Alternating between anger and a great dark void.

What gets me is that at least one writer actually thought we would LIKE the current ending! HOW?!

[jspiess]

Reth Shepherd wrote...

I'll hold out until April, see if they have something amazing up their sleeve, but right now hope is draining fast. Alternating between anger and a great dark void.

What gets me is that at least one writer actually thought we would LIKE the current ending! HOW?!

that is the million dollar question I was hoping the final hours app would disclose

[EmGo]

Sharuko wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Sharuko wrote...

Vromrig wrote...

Twitter reveals getting same bad ending.  New camera angles.

Lost interest.

Bioware dead to me.

Back to Bethesda.

Over dramatic people are funny.  Getting so mad over a video game.

See you when the DLC is released.

People like you just create conflict from insulting and immature statements like that, please stop.

Your post is insulting and immature, please stop.

Just... no words... please, just go.

Holding the line. Still.

[Vromrig]

Perhaps should hold line.

Fate of Mass Effect universe depends on it.

[MattFini]

@Cav - I hope you're right.

That is the only way this disaster can be redeemed.