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[Costin_Razvan]

Most people who hate Anora are women obsessed over Alistair, and as you pointed yourself in another thread...they despise her because it is considered best to marry her and Alistair.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 11 mai 2010 - 07:47 .

[Xandurpein]

Massamies wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

You honestly think people believe Eamon is ruthless based on the decision to execute her? You seriously don't understand something then.

Eamon is considered ruthless because he goes a long way to make Alistair king, despite Alistair's protests. He even goes so far as to prefer having Alistair RULE ALONE, so he can manipulate him.

Actually Eamon sounds relieved if you become chancellor and he doesn't have to stay in Denerim. He probably wants Anora out because he thinks she is infertile. Considering that Ferelden has been ruled during its 400 year history only by Theirin line, it is not that strange that he thinks chancing the line could be devastating to country. 

Electing the "best ruler" among the noble when previous dies sounds nice in theory, but for some reason countries with this system in the Middle Ages like Venice didn't achieve the might of  most powerful monarchies. 

Actually Venice, at the apex of it's power, rivalled the power of most monarchies and certainly was wealthier than almost all...

[Der Kirk]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Most people who hate Anora are women obsessed over Alistair, and as you pointed yourself in another thread...they despise her because it is considered best to marry her and Alistair.

I hate Anora because when I was trying to convince the guard chick under lohgain (can't remember her name) that loghain had gone crazy at Howe's place, Anora turned on me, and lied about me trying to kidnap her.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Xandurpein wrote...
Actually Venice, at the apex of it's power, rivalled the power of most monarchies and certainly was wealthier than almost all...

Indeed. That only changed after the beginning of the rise of Nation-States or centralised states. This can also be attributed to the discovery of the Americas, which shifted the central pole of trade from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic (which is how the Netherlands became the next hegemonic power).

[Herr Uhl]

Xandurpein wrote...

Massamies wrote...

Electing the "best ruler" among the noble when previous dies sounds nice in theory, but for some reason countries with this system in the Middle Ages like Venice didn't achieve the might of  most powerful monarchies. 

Actually Venice, at the apex of it's power, rivalled the power of most monarchies and certainly was wealthier than almost all...

The problem there wasn't their government, it was the Ottomans. But you may count them amongst monarchies though.

[Xandurpein]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Xandurpein wrote...

Massamies wrote...

Electing the "best ruler" among the noble when previous dies sounds nice in theory, but for some reason countries with this system in the Middle Ages like Venice didn't achieve the might of  most powerful monarchies. 

Actually Venice, at the apex of it's power, rivalled the power of most monarchies and certainly was wealthier than almost all...

The problem there wasn't their government, it was the Ottomans. But you may count them amongst monarchies though.

Even more to the point, virtually all Medieval monarchies changed the ruling dynasty several times, often due to civil wars resulting from the fact that the "natural" heir was a lousy monarch. Especially so in England.

[Costin_Razvan]

Venice kicked some serious ass for many centuries, usually on it's own against much more powerful enemies.

[CalJones]

Der Kirk wrote...
I hate Anora because when I was trying to convince the guard chick under lohgain (can't remember her name) that loghain had gone crazy at Howe's place, Anora turned on me, and lied about me trying to kidnap her.

That's because you did the one thing she categorically told you not to do, which was to announce her presence to her father's men. As she puts it, if she's caught by Howe's men, she will be killed. And if she is caught by her father's men, they will insist on escorting her back to the palace, where she will probably be killed. She is lying about the last part, but nonetheless, she does not want to be captured or taken to the palace. If you then tell Ser Cauthrien that Anora is with you, you have betrayed her trust. What do you expect her to do, honestly?

[Tirigon]

Anora is a treacherous, annoying b*tch.

[RogueWriter3201]

I haven't taken the time to read the majority of the posts, but I'd be willing to wager that the most common choice for Anora is to either Marry her and Alistair, or imprision her. Frankly, the one thing I enjoy about Dragon Age and its 'Alternate Reality' approach to the Origin stories is that you can follow a different course of Events for each Alternate Timeline. For Instance:

My Human Noble Origin (Canon Timeline) -Aedan Cousland chooses to Marry Anora to preserve the peace between both Factions, those that trust the Wardens and those that Trust the Mac Tirs. Alistair, showing no great degree of competence as a potential King, is missed as a friend and companion when he departs after Aedan spares the Father of his Future Wife/Queen/and Love. In this Canon Universe Adedan Cousland had always Loved Anora after seeing her when he was a young man visiting Denerim for the first time. 

Note: In point of fact, I've always liked Anora a great deal. I've never seen her as power hungry. Quite the contrary. What I see in Anora is a Strong, Intelligent, Independant woman who has seen the dangers of becomming too complacent with one's government (maintaining an ancient Bloodline as Kings and Quens even if those born are not qualified to Rule) and seeing the benefit of bringing about a change. Anora is beloved by both the people and some of the Banns, and sees the dangers that face Ferelden without having been driven to the point of paranoia like her Father. As a Noble Himself from a Family who has always put the People First, Aedan would see all these things in Anora alongwith being drawn to her as a Man is drawn to a Woman. In the HN Timeline, wedding Anora just makes the most sense. 

However, as I mentioned, the Alternate Timeline approach to the Origins allowes one to see things differently in the context of class or Race. Another Example: 

Dwarven Commenor- In the Dust Town Timeline, Faren is a young Dwarf who has been forced to lead a hard life and make hard and brutal choices. Having exsisted under the Heel of the Noble Cast he has no love for the Rich and sees all the political power plays as pointless. He seeks only freedom for him and his beloved sister, and the chance to live his life as he so chooses. When he at last wins his freedom and becomes a Warden he grows to respect the kind and carefree nature of Alistair as well as giving his heart to the beautiful Leliana, another soul who has lived a hard life. When Faren encounters Anora, he sees her as just Another Noble, and is content to distance himself from the game of Politics by allowing Arl Eamon and Alistair to take the reigns of Fereldan while He and Leliana travel the world after the defeat of the Archdemon. In this Timeline, the Warden does not hate Anora, nor does he approve. She is just Another Noble and he is happy to leave her to her fate. 

So, regardless of whether or not someone likes Anora, it's great that you can choose to try to see and live the Story from multiple perspectives. In my case, I like and respect Anora, so it's the best of both worlds.