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#176
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Delta095 wrote...

I stopped reading when I saw the part where you're joker's adopted child/errand boy.

just kidding .It's a cool concept, but I just don't see it happening.


I have to admit... when I first saw the ending and saw Joker emerging out of the Normandy, having fled the battle scene, and looking indifferent about Shepard, plus there was my Shepard's Liara standing next to him ?!?!... I automatically disliked the character of Joker. That's how you can easily ruin a character in less than 5 min.

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wow. this topic is still alive. and now, someone else is claiming to have written this as an original piece of fan fition. slipspace?

really?

i think i'm missing a character here... what was her name? damn...

oh wait. Kathryn Janeway! that's it!!! (if you watched Voyager, you'll know what i'm talking about)

even if you don't believe the indoctrination theory the endings make more sense than this.

GOOD fan fictions and fantasy speculations follow 2 (unofficial) rules: you never post them on the website OWNED and RUN by the developer (regardless of what you think about their work), and you NEVER EVER try to pass them off as official or even unofficial scripts.

i saw Chris Priestly post on this yesterday morning after someone else posted this as the "official" script... if i had been him, i would have gotten a good laugh and never even dignified this with a response.

i'm only posting my opinion because A) i can and don't care what you think about me and B) i'm tired of actually reading responses about people believing this crap.

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Ummm, I never said it was official, if you read the original post I state that it is purely my own work, and even acknowledge that the whole exercise is rather absurd. Furthermore, I repeatedly state that it is a thought experiment/exercise, and I never once claimed it was official.

Can you tell me who claimed it was real, I'd actually like to see that.

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Also, slipspace has been used in several sci-fi universes.

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CmdrSlander wrote...

First off, since this is my first post, introductions are in order: 

Hello Mass Effect Enthusiasts, I am CmdrSlander. My gaming background before becoming a huge fan of the ME series consisted primarily of Halo, Half Life, Battlefield, Fallout, The Elder Scrolls and Gears of War. The one thing about gaming that I have come to love above all else is the vast variety and possibility that a well crafted open world game or RPG offers. That being said, my primary interest in the gaming industry is narrative and canon/universe development. 

I realize creating a story for ME4 as an outsider is absurd, but it is an interesting exercise and also a form of catharsis for those (such as myself) who were irked by the "conclusion" of Mass Effect 3, which is in itself a conclusion to one of the most intricate works of science fiction seen in modern popular media - the Mass Effect Universe. 

With that out of the way, here is my concept for ME4: 

Opening Scroll:

The year is 2217. 

Three decades have passed since Commander Shepard ended the Reaper threat. 

The races of the galaxy are scattered, with millions of ships having fled their home systems as the relay network imploded. The technologies that made the Galactic Community possible - The Mass Relays, Prothean and Reaper advancements - have been lost to time or buried in the rubble of an untold number of devastated worlds.

Limited to underdevoloped FTL and Sublight drives, the alien members of the Sword Fleet, who were stranded in the Sol System after the destruction of the relay network have embarked on perilous pilgramages back to their homeworlds, which will take centuries. 

For some all hope seems lost, for others it is a new beginning. 

The survivors of The Normandy found themselves a new and fertile home - the garden world Morgana - as did the crews of 200 other ships that also found themselves stranded in the same system as a result of the Catalyst's final directive to the relays  - route organic vessels to systems which can support life, ensuring that organics may live on, and perhaps, in their hubris, restart of the cycle of extinction. 

Optimists theorize that the data and technology stored aboard the SSV Normandy may hold the key to reuiniting the galaxy, but the ship is conspicously absent from her crash site. Her pilot, Jeff  "Joker" Moreau, is, under galactic law and custom, the owner of Morgana, having been the first person to set foot there. With his expertise and newfound prestige, Moreau built a rag tag but succesfull intra-system shipping empire around Morgana. In the dark space around Morgana's system, strange Mass Effect field distortions have been detected. Moreau is no where to be found.

You are his adopted [son/daughter]. Your destiny is written in the stars. 


MASS EFFECT 4

Story Summary:

Joker (Mr. Moreau, since he is now older and distinguished) has spent the last 30 years rebuilding the SSV Normandy piece-by-piece. Testing of the vessel is responsible for the odd readings at the edge of Morgana's system. He has determined (with the help of EDI if she survived or a large science team if she did not) that the Normandy's Tantalus drive core, which was never fully understood in the first place, has, after being exposed the Catalyst's signal and enormous amount of dark energy (remember the "space magic" wave washing over the Normandy) became a slipspace catalyst (with a lower case "c" look - up the definition of catalyst) capable of transporting whole fleets of ships to anywhere in known space, with only destination coordinates, in a matter of hours. The theoretical accuracy and speed of this system rivals the Mass Relays and is no doubt the legacy of the technology of the cycle that created the Relays/Reapers. Moreau, who wished to take the Normandy on her greatest mission (Galactic unification) himself is too old, and dying of exposure to Dark Energy. He never wanted to burden you (his adopted child) with this mission, but you are now his only hope, the galaxy's only hope. 

Meanwhile, an unknown, shadowy group with similar technology has a far sinister mission: achieve what they percieve as the goal of the Reapers, who they have deified. They plan to harness dark energy to enlarge the black hole at center of the galaxy, resulting in the destruction of the entire Milky Way. They must be stopped. 

The player is charged with:
-Gathering the scattered alien and human fleets and taking them home, finally. (very emotional, imagine the rebuilt Normandy returning to the Sol system, flying in amongst the debris of the Sword Fleet battle and the Crucible/Citadel. Liara and Samara landing on Thessia after believing they would never see it again. Tali and Rannoch. Etc.)
-"Relighting" the Normandy (finding an Eezo source large enough to power the Normandy for the rest of her days. Hint: Thessia
-Defeating the Reaper Cult. 
-Taking back the homeworld of every major species (except humanity, we already did that) from the lawless brigands and madmen who took power in the vacuum left by the end of The Citadel Council and the destruction of the Reapers. 
-Construct a new Citadel to serve as a hub of a galaxy that you rebuild in your own unique way. 
-Reviving the Galactic economy. Establishing new trades and generally making loads of credits (repeatable/side missions) 
-Colonize worlds and provide for their defense. Rule with an even hand or an iron fist!
-Generally helping the galaxy put itself back together.
-100+ Side Quests, some of which are repeatable

Why You'll love my version of ME4:
-Brigther Story in a Darker Galaxy: You're on a mission of hope in a seemingly hopeless setting, not hurtling towards oblivion like in ME3. 
-Closure: If Shepard survived (current 4000+ EMS Destroy Ending) you can see him/her on Earth. Reunite them with Love Interest etc. Most squadmates who live and that have a sufficient life span will return (though not, most likely as Squadmates). 
-Command not only the Normandy but an ever growing fleet in real time. Participate in epic space battles in real time (no adopted son/daughter or Joker grows up without becoming a crack pilot). 
-Varied and Dynamic Settlements: As opposed to ME2  which had two major trade centers (Citadel, Omega) and ME3 which had one trade center (Citadel) the post-relay galaxy has scores of space stations and colonies with their own unique inhabitants and environments.
-New Squadmates and Fireteam mechanic. Bring a seperate squad of three commanded by and AI squadmate or Co-Op partner along with you on missions. 
-Return of the loyalty gameplay mechanic. More side missions and explorations of the new squadmates backstories. 
-New, Deadlier Normandy. The Normandy is equipped with heavier armor and bristles with armaments, from lasers to rail guns, all of which can be upgraded. You can even customize the paintjob and lettering. 


I will be writing "Codex" articles for ME4 and posting them here to add more info about the story and universe. 

What do you think of my concept for ME4? Please be gentle as you slaughter my ideas. 


And the Hero will be ... Marauder Shields.... EARTH WAS MERELY A SETBACK!Image IPB I WILL SAVE THE GALAXY.....OR DIE TRYING...... Again.

#181
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CmdrSlander wrote...

Ummm, I never said it was official, if you read the original post I state that it is purely my own work, and even acknowledge that the whole exercise is rather absurd. Furthermore, I repeatedly state that it is a thought experiment/exercise, and I never once claimed it was official.

Can you tell me who claimed it was real, I'd actually like to see that.


terribly sorry.  when someone posts "incredibly detailed mass effect 4 concept" posted in the "Mass Effect 3 Story and Campaign Discussion (Spoilers Allowed) thread, i tend to jump to the conclusion "hey, this is a fanfic, but this what i want to see them do anyway."  i jumped to this conclusion as explained below.  apologies for mistaking your claim that "this is real" or "this is official"

however, for the record, there are 2 fakes up.  just to warn you.  they are similar in thread, though not yours.  and yes, i believe these are also non-sensical fanfic fantasies.  both threads are locked.
there was this one
http://social.biowar.../index/10560313
there was this one
http://social.biowar.../index/10650797

these two threads are why i explained you may not want to post fanfics on the main threads.  particularly to a game that may or may not be in development.

as to your claim that "slipspace has been used in several sci-fi universes."  you wanted me to back up my claim.  i was wrong, and i apologized for it, and even explained my confusion.  now i want you to back up your claim.

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nicely written, but I couldnt get past Joker being so important. He ditched me

#183
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This is an awesome idea, and it has my full support, for what that counts.
I had an idea though. We're talented people here on the BSN, why can't we make this game? I'm sure there's programmers and the like all up in here, and I know that there are some very talented writers in the community. CmdrSlander would be the lead writer, but I personally vote for JoeLaTurkey to write the comical elements of the script.
This could be a great thing that has never been done before.

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Skyblade012 wrote...

I'm sorry. You did some good, solid work here.

But the simple fact is, I can't care about the universe anymore. Everything that made it what it was is over. Mass Effect is dead.

I'm sorry. But expanding from that ending is like grooming a dead horse. You can pretty it up, but you can't bring it back to life.


What a poor attitude...

I, for one, like your ideas OP.

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Skyblade012 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Skyblade012 wrote...
I can't care about the universe anymore. Everything that made it what it was is over. Mass Effect is dead.


Yet you are on a message board of a game talking about the universe you claim is dead to you. Reminds me of the zombies in Dawn of the Dead who kept going to the mall and they wondered why


Yep.  I am.  I'm on the message board, complaining, rather than playing.

In fact, I'm not playing much of anything.  Gaming itself has been kind of ruined for me.  Since I saw the ending, I haven't been able to stick with a game for any reasonable length of time.

So I have a lot of spare time, and a lot of negativity, and I'm choosing to unload it as close as possible to those who gave it to me.

Live with it.


 You're being a little bit over dramatic, I can't really fathom how 10 minutes of a game can ruin gaming for you but you're entitled to your opinion. Juat don't make your opinion everyone elses problem.

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CmdrSlander wrote...

@Hunter_Wolf Honestly, there probably shouldn't be an ME4, but just like Halo 4, the series is too popular (and thus a cash cow) for them to kill it. If Bioware moves on like Bungie did, EA will find or create a new studio, just as Microsoft did.


Yeah but I can ignore it if someone else does it. Like KoToR 2 for example. I just realize that Obsidion is pretty awful at storytelling afterwards and don't relate it to Bioware in any way.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Skyblade012 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

Skyblade012 wrote...
I can't care about the universe anymore. Everything that made it what it was is over. Mass Effect is dead.


Yet you are on a message board of a game talking about the universe you claim is dead to you. Reminds me of the zombies in Dawn of the Dead who kept going to the mall and they wondered why


Yep.  I am.  I'm on the message board, complaining, rather than playing.

In fact, I'm not playing much of anything.  Gaming itself has been kind of ruined for me.  Since I saw the ending, I haven't been able to stick with a game for any reasonable length of time.

So I have a lot of spare time, and a lot of negativity, and I'm choosing to unload it as close as possible to those who gave it to me.

Live with it.


 You're being a little bit over dramatic, I can't really fathom how 10 minutes of a game can ruin gaming for you but you're entitled to your opinion. Juat don't make your opinion everyone elses problem.


I agree with this. I mean I'm not saying any of us are NFL players posting on these boards, but if you let the ending of video game pretty much ruin your life, maybe you should sit down for a minute and think about that...

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CmdrSlander wrote...



Joker (Mr. Moreau, since he is now older and distinguished) ...........



I chuckled a bit.... He is awesome , but distinguished is a bit hard to take in

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bahamutomega wrote...
as to your claim that "slipspace has been used in several sci-fi universes."  you wanted me to back up my claim.  i was wrong, and i apologized for it, and even explained my confusion.  now i want you to back up your claim.


As a sort of... secondary writer for this, I'll hit this one out of the park with:

Star Trek, Andromeda, Dr Who and of course, the Halo universe.

(Cmdr, will be working on locations later today)

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@din626 Well played sir!

@bahamutomega Thank you for the explanation.

@buckhammer, MrSuperCrazyAwesomeness, Tenojitsu

Thanks for the support.

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 Then Joker dies and Liara finds his body and brings it to Cerberus so that the shadow broker doesnt get him. Then Cerberus finds out reapers are still alive and they turned shepard into a collectors, so Project Lazarus v3 (v2 was Pressly...it failed) brings Joker back and then Joker meets shepard but shepard is batman now annnnnnnnd cue Batman and Robin!

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No seriously. We should make this.then sell it to Bioware or something.
There are talented people in the community and I love this idea. We could band together and pool our resources or whatever and just do it.

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Kind of sounds Andromeda inspired. I like parts of it, and do hope ME3 isn't the end of the Mass Effect Universe (and please continue along the path of single player (maybe co-op multiplayer) story campaign and not go the logical MMO way

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Just sent CmdrSlander a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge boatload of stuff for him to read through, will allow him to make any edits or alterations he'd like to, and fingers crossed he'll post it up here :D

Edit hint for those who might ask: Two codex entries and a scene written out in full...

Modifié par din626, 27 mars 2012 - 07:38 .


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I like a good fanfic Slander, but it's time to burry this universe, it was great while lasted, lets not turn this into star wars. /Having Shepard shoot Marauder Shields first/

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(Hah...) Well I chatted with Slander and I get to post my first Codex Entry of the day, woo!

[May be subject to later editing/alteration by said 'head-writer' when later detailed out]

The Reaped

It is unclear how a cult with exactly the same doctrine appears on several different planets across the galaxy considering the collapse of Galactic Civilization.

Some on the Normandy have speculated that long term exposure to Reaper Wreckage, which could still give off an indoctrination signal in spite of the end of the Reaper Threat, is to blame.

In spite of having markings which look highly similar to that of Husks and other Reaper troops they are not cybernetically enhanced, instead the markings appear to be ceremonial and are tattooed or branded onto the cultists skin. The goal of the Reaped appears to be driven by survivor guilt, that there should be no highly developed organic life and it is their sworn duty to complete the reapers mission.

Most concerning is the Reaped’s apparent ability to use Slipstream Drives, but these do appear to be inaccurate and inelegant in comparison to the Normandy’s own drive. While the Normandy is able to appear relatively accurately (to be able to arrive at a planet’s L5 point) the Reaped’s ships appear accurate to only the system. The Dark Energy signals emitted give any local forces some time to prepare a responce, but after 30 years of long range space travel being effectively a thing of the dim and distant past, the Reaped are still able to use some element of surprise.

With the slipstream drives being unable to properly cope with channeling dark energy it is apparent that huge damage is being done to the Reaped at a cellular level, and the effects of a Reaped ships loitering in a system for long periods of time can be catastrophic to a planet’s magnetosphere. Long distance observations performed by the Normandy revealed that the effect has been so staggering on the Reaped world of Yanack that the tides have ceased to move on a global level. The Ruined ships are worshiped and visited like temples by many Reaped, further causing the problem or guilt and potential indoctrination.

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Shamefully: I have deemed it necessary to bump this topic because it is awesome. Hopefully: Others will realise this and inform their friends and colleagues.

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MrSuperCrazyAwesome wrote...

Shamefully: I have deemed it necessary to bump this topic because it is awesome. Hopefully: Others will realise this and inform their friends and colleagues.


Shouldn't that be more... *gasp-hiss click*? :P

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N-No. It... It is beyond your comprehension.

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Ok seriously. This is an awesome idea and I want to help make it happen somehow. I don't want it to die. What can I do to help? If it's a Conrad Verner type goose chase, that's fine, but I'd like to do something to help.