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#26
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Really stupid baddie indeed.

OP, I suggest not finishing the game. If Kai Leng's stupidity made you break your monitor, you'll probably go on a killing spree IRL once you see how stupid the ending is. lol

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Wasn't Kai Leng only added to tie the game in with the novels?

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Space Ninjas were a bad idea.

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Kai Leng...

Yeah... just. Yeah.

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As I've previously said, the Virmire victim being spirited away and indoctrinated would have been a better antagonist than Kai Leng. I never took him all that seriously.

He's like Conrad Verner, irritating whenever he shows up.

'Cept, I actually do like Conrad.

Modifié par Sifr1449, 24 mars 2012 - 04:09 .


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I agree its as if we were expected to read the books/ or comis im not sure which one he came out in to be honest but, they could have fleshed him out a little bit more i think.

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Sifr1449 wrote...

As I've previously said, the Virmire victim being spirited away and indoctrinated would have been a better antagonist than Kai Leng. I never took him all that seriously.


That actually would've made for a good story. VS gets abducted on Mars, leaving you to assume that they're dead, they later appear under the control of the illusive man, and around the time of Citadel Coup, you have the ability to free them.

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The only good thing about Kai Leng was finally getting to kill him. Very satisfying;). My paragon Shepard punching that Quarian admiral... Also quite enjoyable.

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I thought it was funny that they decided a final boss was too video-gamey but Kai Leng wasn't. His final battle annoyed me because of that "ARGH!" sound he made when he broke the floor tiles. Still, even as a Paragon, I couldn't resist the urge to Renegade interrupt him. It was a great feeling to break his little baby sword and omni-blade him in slow-mo.

Modifié par TheSteelArcher, 24 mars 2012 - 08:26 .


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Wait. Did you actually punch a hole in your monitor?

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In my mind after Shepard killed him, I added the dialogue: Back to the Square/Enix universe with you! Don't bring a sword to a gunfight you trite asian cliché. You're nothing more than a watered-down, low-level, Final Fantasy villain. Die!

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I actually loved Space Ninjas (KL and Phantoms), or loved to hate them, more like. They were annoying as hell but due to that incredibly fun to put down; Stabbing Leng was extremely satisfying, as was humilating the Phantoms (little p***s can't dogde squadmate powers so every time I'd encounter one I'd have Garrus Concussive Shot the bastard, then add another one of my own which they couldn't dodge now they were in stagger, shoot what was remaining of their barriers and then have Liara slap their sorry asses with a Singularity :D )

Leng regenerating his shields yelling "cover me I needz rechargez" was a little too much though.

Modifié par Shepard Wins, 24 mars 2012 - 10:24 .


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Kai Leng in the books was a good assassin. In the game, he is another douchbag to kill. I liked him in the books more.

If there was Kai Leng from the books, I would happily recruited him to my cause? Then again my inner cerberus fanboy is talking again. I would also love to see T.I.M. as a squad member as well. Then again, there is a lot of things I would want to have in Mass Effect 3.

And A lot more explosions and political manuvers and Death of Reapers. Let every major and minor character kill two reapers.

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Marauder Shields was a much better villain than Kai Leng.

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I've got to say, I liked Kai Leng's inclusion. Because I've read the book's plots (though not the books themselves), I knew who Kai Leng was; maybe that made the difference. But I found was impressed throughout the Citadel mission by him, really. He had a great fight with Thane, I liked the car and elevator chases... His plot armor on Thessia was kind of annoying, but understandable. The fight in the Illusive Man's room was great, and finally killing my nemesis was satisfying.

Some of you seem to have your suspension of belief turned off and on at awkward moments. If you apply the same suspension of disbelief that's required for most of the game to Kai Leng, like I did, he's not that bad.

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Crinkles wrote...

I've got to say, I liked Kai Leng's inclusion. Because I've read the book's plots (though not the books themselves), I knew who Kai Leng was; maybe that made the difference. But I found was impressed throughout the Citadel mission by him, really. He had a great fight with Thane, I liked the car and elevator chases... His plot armor on Thessia was kind of annoying, but understandable. The fight in the Illusive Man's room was great, and finally killing my nemesis was satisfying.

Some of you seem to have your suspension of belief turned off and on at awkward moments. If you apply the same suspension of disbelief that's required for most of the game to Kai Leng, like I did, he's not that bad.

This. I really don't get the hate and whining on him.

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He wasn't in the game enough for me to care, and neither should you. Plus we got to kick his ass pretty easily.

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It's not the character I hate, it's the the blatant "godhanding" the encounter at Thessia. I HATE the way that the plot requires you to be defeated by someone who would be dead if the game rules actually applied to him. I could tolerate with him distracting you in battle so that another space-ninja steals the data while you are fighting. I could tolerate him escaping before you can kill him. Hell, I could live with losing to him if it's revealed that he is an uber-cyborg reaper hybrid with insane super-powers. But what I find intolerable is that the plot requires that he has to WIN when he shouldn't.

That sort of thing is a clear sign of bad writing, and really disappoints me. I really expected better of Bioware.

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I hated him and his plot armour both..emo space ninja's are stupid.
For me he really seemed out of place in the ME world.(not read books though)

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JasmoVT wrote...

Nothing worse than a weak, laughable character wrapped in plot armor. If you want to make a villain make a villain.


100% agree. Kai Leng's plot armor needs to not exist, his gunship's plot armor need to not exist, and Dr. Eva's plot armor, well you see where I'm going with this. 

What's more, when you shoot at his gunship the game tells you through Kai Leng and Liara that it's impossible to destroy. They knew people were going to shoot at it and they couldn't think of a good excuse to make it invulnerable.

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Whoever came up with the Kai Leng character should be shot, drawn and quatered.

I was so frustrated by his aura of incompetency that I literally punch a hole into my monitor.

There are pills to help with that.

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digby69 wrote...

If you've read the mass effect books you would understand him and his character better, there is a lot of back story in the books. if not I agree he looks a bit of a tool in me3.


Hmmmm I wish I could do that but that would mean spending money Bioware would get.  Can't do that.  I'm still struggling if buying a used copy of ME2 (mine died) is OK as they won't actually benefit from that.

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Stranee wrote...

In my mind after Shepard killed him, I added the dialogue: Back to the Square/Enix universe with you! Don't bring a sword to a gunfight you trite asian cliché. You're nothing more than a watered-down, low-level, Final Fantasy villain. Die!


QFT

As soon as he pulled out that damn sword I knew he'd be the most cringe-worthy character in the trilogy. Fighting with a sword would get you killed today, but they're back in style in 2186?

Modifié par troyk2027, 25 mars 2012 - 05:50 .


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troyk2027 wrote...

Stranee wrote...

In my mind after Shepard killed him, I added the dialogue: Back to the Square/Enix universe with you! Don't bring a sword to a gunfight you trite asian cliché. You're nothing more than a watered-down, low-level, Final Fantasy villain. Die!


QFT

As soon as he pulled out that damn sword I knew he'd be the most cringe-worthy character in the trilogy. Fighting with a sword would get you killed today, but they're back in style in 2186?

I see people are ignoring the projectile weapon Kai Leng has in his palm. I'd consider him stupid if all he had was a sword. You're also ignoring the effectiveness of kinetic barriers so swords make even more sense in 2186.

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I thought he looked cool but he was poorly written and misused. Also the cereal thing from the comics and getting his butt handed to him by a terminally ill drell made him look stupid.