XOGHunter246 wrote...
everyone entitled to to their opinion your right guess we will agree to disagree. one thing though how is not doing it selfish your still doing what your meant to do not conceiving a child which could be a good/bad thing sure morrigan may seem trust worthy but she is very intelligent and can easily manipulate you like she has done to reach her own goals. i doubt she could careless about you dying anyway just whats that child!. why didn't she tell us in first place about this if she was doing it to save you, she wait till now to tell us?
Why she waited?
I'll admit that is a good question, I can think of her reasonings, especially considering her attitude.
Firstly it is not her place to tell you of the 'sacrifice' a warden has to make, that should have been up to Duncan or another Warden. Think about it, going on the basis of you not knowing, you are going into the battle thinking it doesn't matter who kills it, you are just there because you are good at 'sensing darkspawn'.
Another reason for her not telling us, kind of falls back to something that is said when you first encounter her and flemeth when flemeth gives you the warning to give Duncan about the blight (or did she just refer to it as a 'threat'?) being more serious than they originally thought and one of the options you get to respond to that is that you are sure they will take her words seriously (or words to that effect).
Think about this, you just got rescued by Flemeth and Morrigan, granted you owe them your lives and whilst if you thank Flemeth she does state it is you they should be thanking (though that now of course has a double entendre in the fact she is thanking you for giving them the opportunity to do the ritual), would you really have believed them if they had told you about the other 'Warden' secret that they knew of?
Alastair certainly wouldn't, he just lost his mentor and father figure and he got some 'Witch of the Wilds' telling him that Duncan didn't tell him the real kicker of being a Warden when a Blight is occurring?
Now there is the question of if you chose a male PC and end up romantically in love with Morrigan and thus soften her up, why didn't she tell you prior to Redcliffe? That is a good question, course the other poser there is why didn't she just do the ritual then? Well from the way she speaks during the ritual conversation it has to take place at a certain time.
The other thing to point out in this situation, we don't entirely know what the ritual entails (other than the obvious sex part), that major issue aside, she obviously has to explain why and how the ritual will work to convince the PC of either taking part or getting Alastair/Loghain to take part. It is then up to the player if they tell them why it will work if going down that route or just keep them in the dark.
Way I see it, the ritual must require both parties to be willing and involved in it. Some could say Morrigan could have easily controlled the player/alastair/loghain into doing it, but she doesn't. That to me shows (from an OOC perspective) that she isn't as bad as some people make her out to be.
Regarding the question of why not doing the ritual could be classed as selfish. Again it is due to the reasoning behind refusing it, am not saying every reason is selfish, it is just that there is some reasons which are.
Selfish reasons being... you despise Morrigan and won't have anything to do with her even if she could just well save your life (in some respects if you account her mother into the equation, for the 2nd time). The term "Pride comes before a fall" springs to mind in that instance. The most funniest selfish reason for refusing out of the lot is the whole issue of being romantically involved with someone else. Especially if it is Alastair!?! Sorry ladies, but I really can't see how you see her doing the ritual as bad just because she having sex with Alastair, considering she is ensuring you both will live after the battle. Yes it could mean that she has a son whom has just as much right as being heir to the throne as any kids of your own does. But I think Morrigan is actually on a higher power state of mind than some throne of a realm (mother of a god>mother of a king). From a male PC whom is in love with Leliana, you want to try to spend the next 29 years with her right? Morrigan is giving you that choice and before anyone says Alastair/Loghain could give you that choice, sorry but you just proved how selfish you are going on the assumption they would.
I would just like to state that I don't entirely hold the above views, I am just stating them as reasons why people could see them in such a fashion.
As I said before, it is a matter of choice and as such there is always going to be various opinions on it.
On a relating note, one thing am going to be intrigued about "Return to Ostagar" is that this situation can apparently happen after Lothering, so that means this 'Warden' you beat Riordan to seeing you, so I suppose the question will be, is he really a Warden? If so, is he a newish recruit like Alastair who hasn't been told of the sacrifice. Also the way I see it, that guy can't survive the quest surely because otherwise Riordan would need a whole re-write to account for people whom may do that quest before meeting Riordan.
Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 09 décembre 2009 - 12:01 .
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we all agreed as adults that neither i nor alistair have any claim on the child and we are only helping a friend (a friend tha alistair dislikes even) to have a child (and btw, saving our own hides 
a nice side effect). It's how i'd act in real life and as such it's how the character whom i decided to act like me in-game will act. Call it what you want, but it is so.
