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MUST READ: The REAL source for the "artistic" ending was STOLEN from a SONG.


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Xcrucio

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I got 2 minutes into the song, didn't see any connections beyond the generic image used by the video uploader. Closed the video, read your interpretation of the lyrics, came the conclusion that you made some very bizarre connections with lyrics that are beyond generic and could be applied to anything, read some of your posts where you claimed to have listened the song in varying ways (including just paying attention to the timing of the color shifts) and realized that you really just want to this to be true and will dig through anything to make it true. Perhaps you should step outside or find yourself a significant other to occupy your time cause what I read was a whole lot of crazy.

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*sigh*
When this post was fairly young i asked people to behave like adults and not insult the band, then i come back and it's 10 times worse...
Why do you people feel the need to bash at the band? Fine, you don't like the music, it's not in your taste, in that case just simply say that you don't like it instead of saying that the band sucks or that your head/ears hurts, no one force you to listen to the damn song! if you wanted your "evidence" you could have just checked the lyrics!

Seriously, what happened to being civil on these forums? what happened to the reate movement being composed of thinking adults? what i see here is a mob mentality "rawr, this song is a symbol for what we dislike about the ending, let's rage at it!!". come on people, it's starting to get frustrating to read so many hatefull comments about a great band, Wintersun never asked to be viewed in this light, just cut it out already!

Sheez...

#228
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If this tweet is real, then this is just friggin' hilarious.

#229
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ZOMG Miranda looks like that chick from Chuck, they ripped her off!! Quick to teh forums!

Guys post constructive comments, this is a hommage, nothing more, it's not a stolen idea. Call it an Easter egg and all your rage goes away.

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MeesterSquishy wrote...

Huge coincidence, I don't agree with any of the lyrical interpretations. The only real link is the background image and that's flimsy at best. Also "Starchild" is what the fans came up with as a name for the child, he is referred to as the Catalyst in-game.
And that tweet is fake unless there's a link to it.


I want to EXACTLY where everyone is getting this "Fans created name for starchild".

NOW.

Why?  Because I have heard counter arguments claiming that Mac Walters is the sole originator.

Provide me with the concrete evidence proving a fan origin.  Thanks.

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Mastermadskills

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terdferguson123 wrote...

The people trying to make connections to this are the same types of fools who tried to make the connection that played backwards, Stairway to Heaven has satanic lyrics. The mind will try to make sense of anything you want to believe. I don't see the connections really, the lyrics really don't make that big of a connection, in fact the ONLY thing even remotely similar is the picture, and thats a pretty common sci fi backdrop.

Dear god, please don't tell me that the vast majority of you are falling for this... God, you guys, I have held back but for those of you falling for this you guys are just trying to write any connection you can.

THAT PHOTO ISN'T EVEN FROM WINTERSUN, look up the actual album. It's just some photo somebody found on the net. That tweet is so freaking fake it's unreal. Come on people, I get your angry, but at least try to show you aren't biased as f**** hell.


I debunked everything you just re-brought up in here.

It doesn't matter if the photo is from wintersun or not.

Nope.

Why not?

Because Casey RIPPED THE YOUTUBE VID.

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Mastermadskills

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Someone please prove to me that fans made up name starchild.

I have heard it said that the leaders of bioware were, in fact, the progenitors.

Thanks.

Modifié par Mastermadskills, 25 mars 2012 - 01:15 .


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As for everyone saying I am grasping at straws:

Nonsense.  I am staring at a giant pile of evidence that all fits and correlates respectively at every turn and I continue to find more.

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Mastermadskills wrote...

Someone please prove to me that fans made up name starchild.

Thanks.



Prove that it was in fact Walters who did so.

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The only connection I see here is the image used in the video, other than that, I dont see anything in the lyrics...

That tweet is obviously fake too, cmon! lol

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Mastermadskills wrote...

As for everyone saying I am grasping at straws:

Nonsense.  I am staring at a giant pile of evidence that all fits and correlates respectively at every turn and I continue to find more.


The people who thought Anna Anderson was the last Czar's daughter Anastasia talked like you. Even after DNA evidence proved them wrong....

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Mastermadskills

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Persephone wrote...

Mastermadskills wrote...

Someone please prove to me that fans made up name starchild.

Thanks.



Prove that it was in fact Walters who did so.


Excellent.

Then the topic rests in nomans land.

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Mastermadskills wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Mastermadskills wrote...

Someone please prove to me that fans made up name starchild.

Thanks.



Prove that it was in fact Walters who did so.


Excellent.

Then the topic rests in nomans land.


No. I have only seen the fans call the Catalyst "Starchild".

#239
Mastermadskills

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It really isn't about just one piece of evidence or two pieces that are meant to utterly prove all.

The real strength lies in everything reinforcing eachother to the point of overwhelming odds.


I'll start adding the other batch of "coincidences" in a day. Each one boosts that "no way this is chance" factor, which is becoming undeniably strong.

Each alone mean nothing. All the evidence together paints the proof.

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So was that tweet real or fake?

#241
Mastermadskills

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I feel strongly that bits and pieces are being overanalyzed by people that disagree with me.

I would politely ask to look at it from a wider view.

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Umm... uhh... I have nothing to say, this is a big kick in the quad.

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Well I already saw this before...and didn't change my idea on HOW BAD the ending is.

This is just a cheap and lazy thing to do. Inspiration is one thing, stealing a concept from a SONG and ignoring rest of your game's theme... it is just pathetic...

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 I know how easy it is to just reskin some other piece of art when you have a deadline, but I am REALLY dissapointed, Bioware.

I am REALLY dissapointed.

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This is why I believe Bioware peaked at Mass Effect 2 sadly.

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Mastermadskills

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Important to mention:

I keep seeing people say "But that picture isn't even by the artists from which Bioware stole the endings!

This argument does not hold water.

Bioware ripped off the very YouTube video it's self. Video was uploaded slightly before the time they began creation of Mass Effect 3. Casey Hudson views it, finds that he LOVES the sounds of cats violently attacking chalkboards, and proceeds to craft the ending of Mass Effect out of his infinite love for this song.

#247
Mastermadskills

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Too many links.

Too many similarities.

Too many "WTF this is disturbingly familiar!..."


Add them all up and you get: "Oh sweet Jeebus! This really WAS where the endings came from!"

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FirstBlood XL wrote...

Maybe they figured that the song is soooooo ****ing horrible that nobody would ever listen to it, thus no connection ever being established.


This. Kinda.

I'm so very disappointed in this company. Now I'm at the point where ending DLC or no ending DLC, I just don't care. Disgusting.

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The video's uploaded to the song is not the band. Just some random dude who just happened to find that particular picture.

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JohnLena wrote...

The video's uploaded to the song is not the band. Just some random dude who just happened to find that particular picture.


That's not the point. The point is that Bioware (or Casey, etc) saw this song with this video and ran with it.