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[Trevarion]

lol at the general douchebaggery towards people who didn't like ME1 as much as some of you self entitled elitists do. Sad.
I played ME1 right before ME2 came out and after moving on to 2 I haven't looked back since, the story in ME2 is just as good (perhaps better because of loyalty missions) and has imo a way more fun combat system. I've got like 6 me2 playthroughs and 1 me1. Not saying ME1 is bad but after I played ME2 going back feels weird and it felt like a massive chore to do all the boring mako rides again.

[Transgirlgamer]

Sangheili_1337 wrote...

BeefoTheBold wrote...

Punk4Real wrote...

I actually played ME2 first and loved it so much I thought I'll go back and check out ME1.
Wow, the gameplay was just terrible. TERRIBLE. Especially the cooldown ammo mechanic and those horrible crosshairs. Its only saving grace was the story and awesome dialogue. But other than that, I hated it. It was a chore to play.

Welcome to the new breed of Bioware customer.

Gameplay before anything else. Story and dialog are awesome, but hates ME1 because of gameplay they didn't like.

That's Bioware's target audience and new mission statement summed up in two depressing sentences.

Why cant we have both? ME 2 does, therefore its the better game.

This.  I want good gameplay, good story and good characters.  Any one of these three if done really badly can be a game breaker for me personally. Otherwise, two makes a good game, all three makes a great game.  I'm not far enough into ME to tell how it rates story and character wise but the gameplay isn't so bad as to ruin the game for me, I just think it could have been better in places.

[Erethrian]

Farbautisonn wrote...

-Yes.

[Plasma Prestige]

 The gameplay was pretty atrocious, even for the day. However, the game itself was pretty good because of the dialog and story. 

Mass Effect 3 is leaps and bounds above both its predecessors, and I say this from the perspective of playing only ME1 and ME2 for the past two weeks (waiting for ending DLC for ME3). 

[Transgirlgamer]

jreezy wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Sangheili_1337 wrote...

leeboi2 wrote...

You're the special case who jumped into a trilogy mid way through...So it's your own fault that you now have to **** and whine about it.

A game has to stand on its own. I for one played the series from the beginning and felt it is far inferior. I enjoyed Kotor far more as well.

It's the lightsabers isn't it?

There's that. For myself, it was also the first experience with a Bioware game, so it has a special place in my heart.

While KOTOR wasn't my first BioWare game it definitely has a special place in my heart as well. One of the greatest Star Wars games ever. I hope BioWare revisits the IP again with another console game if they can.

Bioware revisiting KoTOR with an offline game is pretty much up to Uncle George or his minions at Lucasarts I think.  (I don't mean minions in a bad way, I'm a huge SW fangirl and would do most things to be one of those minions) The fact that they did TOR makes it promising that they'll do something SW related, hopefully it won't be just expansions for TOR though.

[JexyG]

Pretty much. ME1 is for people who like RPGs, you know... what the game is SUPPOSED to be. You'd probably be the guy who likes DA2 over DA1 cause the combat was better.

[Untold]

Punk4Real wrote...

I actually played ME2 first and loved it so much I thought I'll go back and check out ME1.
Wow, the gameplay was just terrible. TERRIBLE. Especially the cooldown ammo mechanic and those horrible crosshairs. Its only saving grace was the story and awesome dialogue. But other than that, I hated it. It was a chore to play.

I'll be honest, if you stripped the story away it would be extremely painful to play. But then again, let's be honest. We don't really play for the shooter part now do we. 

I recently went back to play another play through and man are there a lot of bugs with squad pathing. I can't count the number of times Garrus has gotten stuck and refused to move. Silly Turian.

Modifié par Untold, 27 mars 2012 - 10:24 .

[SynheKatze]

jreezy wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Sangheili_1337 wrote...

leeboi2 wrote...

You're the special case who jumped into a trilogy mid way through...So it's your own fault that you now have to **** and whine about it.

A game has to stand on its own. I for one played the series from the beginning and felt it is far inferior. I enjoyed Kotor far more as well.

It's the lightsabers isn't it?

There's that. For myself, it was also the first experience with a Bioware game, so it has a special place in my heart.

While KOTOR wasn't my first BioWare game it definitely has a special place in my heart as well. One of the greatest Star Wars games ever. I hope BioWare revisits the IP again with another console game if they can.

Oh please no. The current BioWare cannot handle KotOR.

[cachx]

I wouldn't call ME1 "bad", but is such a chore to get through now. I only play in small bursts. Planet "exploring" makes my soul cry.

If it wasn't for the small little details (Kirrahe, Conrad, etc), I would only play from ME2 onwards.

[Plasma Prestige]

JexyG wrote...

Pretty much. ME1 is for people who like RPGs, you know... what the game is SUPPOSED to be. You'd probably be the guy who likes DA2 over DA1 cause the combat was better.

Wow, aren't you a little presumptious of others? 

Let's face some facts. Mass Effect 1 had abysmal combat compared to the rest of the series. Dragon Age II had much better combat than Dragon Age I. Whether you like one or the other is your opinion, but there are definite markers of what is good and bad gameplay, and it could not be any clearer with the examples you wish to mention. 

[Mutineer81]

People that hate ME1 wear helmets.

[Jayelle Janson]

I can understand why you'd hate it after playing ME2 first. The insanity setting is a pain as its not harder, it just takes you longer to kill anything.

If you want to make it more entertaining, pick Liara up last. It's fun watching Shepard bumble around the whole game, not knowing what the hell he's doing without her to explain his prothean visions.

[Transgirlgamer]

jreezy wrote...

SynheKatze wrote...

Oh please no. The current BioWare cannot handle KotOR.

You mean BioWare the company or the fanbase?

A little from column A and a little from column B?

[RenownedRyan]

1. Mass Effect 2
2. Mass Effect
3. Mass Effect 3

[-Asari]

 Yes, ME1 was a great game!

[0rthod0x]

ME2 was a migration from rpg to shooter. So I can imagine going from shooter to rpg would be fairly distressing. If that had happened with the MGS series, I might have clawed my eyes out (exaggeration). However, I played ME1 first and was expecting an open-world rpg with tons of exploration and stuff like that (even if it was pretty repetitive), so I loved it. Thought it would be expanded with ME2 (more customization, more unique environments, better inventory mechanics, less combat issues), but it was just a shooter. Didn't like it at first, but the soundtrack and interpersonal relationships get me into it enough to keep playing.

[freestylez]

Honestly as a third-person shooter, ME3 is still vastly inferior to say, Gears of War. Cover in ME3 is too sticky and overall clunky, so that shooter aspect of Mass Effect is never what attracted me. The great story and universe was where it was at for me.

Modifié par freestylez, 27 mars 2012 - 11:21 .

[TornadoADV]

Bodyblocking Armatures and Collusi into death pits on ME1 with the Mako was awesome. Jump on them like Mario with the jump jets.

[spacehamsterZH]

I like ME1 fine, and I think dismissing a heavily story-focused RPG purely based on the fact that the combat is crap is kinda missing the point. There were other things wrong with it, though (copypasta sidequests, Mako controls, inventory, needlessly confusing talent tree), and I think anyone who can't admit that it's kind of a flawed game is just being irrational. Of course if you want to be one of the cool kids around here, you have to proclaim ME1 the best of the series and lord your superior, but largely unexplainable tasts over everyone else, so, yeah.

[Spectre_Shepard]

yes. yes you are

[Srau]

ME1 > all others ... but its a RPG, others are not.

Modifié par Srau, 27 mars 2012 - 11:46 .

[kj0600]

It may be a 'chore' but it still holds some of the strongest story in the entire series. It also felt more like an RPG then the newer ones. I've learned to love the flaws, it's not a perfect game but still amazing for a then smaller Bioware.