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[CARL_DF90]

jreezy wrote...

CARL_DF90 wrote...

Hated the mako and the planets that the mako landed on. Hated the graphical and gameplay glitches, and the brain dead squad AI that got themselves killed and would constantly try to shoot through walls. I will be a happy camper the day they rebuild ME1 with a better gameplay and graphics engine, while still keeping the original story intact. Maybe as part of a "Trilogy Pack" for Mass Effect. Would be awesome.

PS3 users would be screwed.

Says who? ME1 was orginally produced with help from Microsoft. If it were remade by Bioware/EA this time with EA financing it instead and with a different engine, who is to say it couldn't make the jump to PS3. Bioware then could release a patch so you could import the character into ME2 on the PS3. Just an idea and I would be first in line to buy it, although I highly doubt EA would want to go through the expense to completely rebuild an older title, regardless of how popular it is. *sighs, dreams*

[da mighty rEAper]

Its an awesome game, once you learn to ignore some things and get some patience

[Aimi]

I don't hate ME1. I've probably played it more than I've played ME2, and ME2 is my favorite game of all time. But I think that it is clearly the weakest entry in the series.

From a technical standpoint, this is trivially true. The voice acting wasn't as good. The music was more uneven (and there wasn't enough of it, so you got to hear that same damn "creepy" theme from Peak 15 every time you went into a building on an uncharted world), although "Vigil" is one of the standout pieces of the series. Animations weren't as well done as in the later games, and there were a lot fewer of them. Assets were reused all over the place, especially for the weapons and the environment.

From a story perspective, I was annoyed that the game's basic outline employed the stereotypical "standard BioWare story" a la KotOR or Jade Empire. Its appeal was definitely wearing thin by that point; ME2's character-driven story was superior. There were plot holes, some of which were rather major (you could drive the SR-1 through the most egregious one, Tali's little adventure). Some of the things that happened mostly made sense from the conventions of the genre, not intrinsically, which was a weakness. And the whole false urgency that pervaded the story - a "race against time" in which there were no penalties for going slowly and prospecting for light metals or League of One medallions - irked me as well.

The characters didn't really have enough depth to them, nor were they particularly personable; conversations hadn't actually been written like conversations yet, so most people ended up being a walking Codex (Tali and Kaidan being the worst offenders). Ashley was probably the most interesting and deep character of the squadmates. It's a little telling that some fans even felt that Saren got a more interesting character than some of your team (his character being fleshed out over four total confrontations, two of which aren't even face-to-face and only one of which was an actual involved conversation). Also, honestly, the game just isn't very funny, and not just by comparison with ME2 and ME3 (two of the more hilarious major game releases of all time); Kaidan has a few decent lines ("We're going to need a bigger boot" and "Way to go, Team Milky Way") but everything else said by basically everybody else is more or less played straight. Hell, he's even funnier than Joker, who doesn't seem to do much wisecracking except a stale joke about Noverian bureaucracy.

I think everything that needs to be said about combat has already been said. Same with the skill tree for Shepard's and squadmates' powers.

Even though I think it's something of a chore to play now, the first Mass Effect game is still one of my favorite games of all time; at the time, it was insanely fun to play, and it created an intellectual property into which I've sunk immense amounts of my free time (and a fair amount of my non-free time, derp). It just doesn't measure up to the later games in the trilogy.

[Sangheili_1337]

Mass Effect 1 is definitely overrated and I can never understand why anyone would say it is the best in the series. Every Mass Effect game did something better than the other but in the end the first game had some severe flaws that is too big to ignore in order for it to get consideration for best ME game. The inventory system was awful, the mako exploration sequences was awful, and the gameplay is vastly inferior to the next two. It is still a very good game and I enjoyed it, but it is simply not in the same class as ME 2 and ME 3.

[rumination888]

jreezy wrote...

rumination888 wrote...
The storyline and pacing was a complete ripoff of KOTOR, minus the plottwist. 

I'm wondering if you've ever played Knights of the Old Republic right now.

You either have rose-tinted glasses, or you played ME1 before KOTOR.

Steps the protagonist in both games take to reach the ending:

Step 1: show that you're capable of joining an elite organization(whether intended or not)
Step 2: join said organization
Step 3: go to planet X to find a clue that points to a hidden location
Step 4: go to planet Y to find a clue that points to a hidden location
Step 5: go on a forced detour to a location where you fight a rogue member of said organization
Step 6: go to planet Z to find a clue that points to a hidden location
Step 6: go to hidden location
Step 7: go to another railroaded location and have a final battle against a rogue member of said organization
Step 8: prepare for battle against an enemy that lies outside the galaxy's edge.

The only difference between KOTOR and ME1's plot is that, in KOTOR, there is an additional step between 3 and 4 where you go to planet W to find another clue.

[Malchus]

Mass Effect 1 is great...

If only for the first 5 minutes.

One of my favorite openings for a game ever.

[da mighty rEAper]

Also has wonderfull atmosphere, i think i like it even more than me2

[CARL_DF90]

@ jreezy

True enough, but still for every legal road block there are loop-holes. You just need to find them. Whether or not EA would care to do so is another matter entirely.

[Chromie]

jreezy wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

ME1 was the best in the entire series.

Someone else understands.

ME1 was very generic.

Only to those who don't understand.

Understand what? 

Prove your worthy of joining some exclusive group
Go to 3-4 places, planets etc.
???
Save the world/galaxy.

 

[rumination888]

Skelter192 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

ME1 was the best in the entire series.

Someone else understands.

ME1 was very generic.

Only to those who don't understand.

Understand what? 

Prove your worthy of joining some exclusive group
Go to 3-4 places, planets etc.
???
Save the world/galaxy.

 

Whats funny is that chart is slightly inaccurate.

You were war hero in KOTOR, just like in ME1. The only difference between the two is that you are aware of it from the very start of ME1.

In KOTOR and ME1, you become the captain of a starship after you join an elite organization. In ME1, the captain of the Normandy before you become a Spectre is Anderson, not Shepard.

[rumination888]

jreezy wrote...

rumination888 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

rumination888 wrote...
The storyline and pacing was a complete ripoff of KOTOR, minus the plottwist. 

I'm wondering if you've ever played Knights of the Old Republic right now.

You either have rose-tinted glasses, or you played ME1 before KOTOR.

Steps the protagonist in both games take to reach the ending:

Step 1: show that you're capable of joining an elite organization(whether intended or not)
Step 2: join said organization
Step 3: go to planet X to find a clue that points to a hidden location
Step 4: go to planet Y to find a clue that points to a hidden location
Step 5: go on a forced detour to a location where you fight a rogue member of said organization
Step 6: go to planet Z to find a clue that points to a hidden location
Step 6: go to hidden location
Step 7: go to another railroaded location and have a final battle against a rogue member of said organization
Step 8: prepare for battle against an enemy that lies outside the galaxy's edge.

The only difference between KOTOR and ME1's plot is that, in KOTOR, there is an additional step between 3 and 4 where you go to planet W to find another clue.

You forgot that there's no plot twist involving a secret identity. And no. I did not play Mass Effect before KOTOR. 

Forgot? Learn to read:

rumination888 wrote...
The storyline and pacing was a complete ripoff of KOTOR, minus the plottwist. 

[OneWithTheAssassins]

The only people who hate ME1 are people who aren't true Mass Effect fans.

[rolson00]

yes it is just you

[Daiyus]

I've played from the very beginnings, I bought ME1 a week after release for 360 and never looked back. I've played ME1 and 2 on every platform available, and am now playing ME3 on PC. ME1 is certainly the "odd one out" now. It's very dated compared to the other two, and while I can still happily play it, I do crave the more modern shooter aspects of 2 and 3.

As other have said, one day I'd love to see all three games combined into one seamless game in the future. Get the great story of ME1 with ME3 combat, and refined planet exploring.

[AshenSugar]

Inventory system that automatically converts stuff I'm trying to save, such as ammo into Omnigel if I pick up too much stuff.

Climbing over nearly impassable mountain ranges, in a bouncy, unruly vehicle that regularly tips over, or does a complete 360 degree turn... again and again and again.. planet after planet.

Constantly re-used generic bases, mines and habitats on endless planets, with the same old routine... find minerals, investigate anomaly, kill bad guys amidst a load of crates... then repeat...

Game regularly crashes during dialogue ever since I upgraded my Nvidia drivers.

Cover system and squad commands are rudimentary at best.

Crazy cooldowns on powers.






...... And I absolutely love the game, for all it's faults

LIke the poster above me said, there's an intimacy about ME1, and a very special atmosphere that was never exactly recaptured in either of the sequels. The main missions are absolutely superb in my opinion, and more than make up for the filler content in the form of generic planet exploration.

Ok, the storyline is not exactly super-original, but it's carried off with such flair and panache, and the characters you meet along the way, and scenarios you encounter are unforgettable.

I rember how I felt when visiting the Citadel for the first time, and just being dumbstruck by the sheer size and execution of the thing.... was a jaw-dropping experience.. that whole early section of the game, within the Citadel with all the side quests felt like it's own self-contained game.. I felt like a detective, tracking down clues, talking to suspects.

Modifié par AshenSugar, 27 mars 2012 - 09:03 .

[Embrosil]

Punk4Real wrote...

I actually played ME2 first and loved it so much I thought I'll go back and check out ME1.
Wow, the gameplay was just terrible. TERRIBLE. Especially the cooldown ammo mechanic and those horrible crosshairs. Its only saving grace was the story and awesome dialogue. But other than that, I hated it. It was a chore to play.

I do not know. I consider ME1 the best of the series and one of the best games ever made. ME2 is the worst of the series, mostly because the incredibly stupid main story.

Modifié par Embrosil, 27 mars 2012 - 09:15 .

[Fillydilly]

The only negative thing with ME1 is strolling around on the Citadel. There is nothing wrong with being able to STROLL on the Citadel but you should be able to go around in a faster pace as well.

[JustOneGuy]

Am I the only one who loves the ENTIRE Trilogy?

[Transgirlgamer]

I haven't played all the way through ME 1 yet, I only got it a week or so before ME3 was released. I'd bought ME 2 as I saw pre-orders for 3 and I didn't want to spend that much when I didn't know anything about the series. Only my PS3 was capable of playing any ME game which is why I didn't start at the beginning.

I don't hate ME1. But I don't like it as much as I do ME 2 and most of ME 3. My biggest annoyance with it is the sniper rifle scope. A well trained sniper, which an infiltrator marine commander would be, would not have that much movement of the scope. It makes headshotting almost impossible at any decent range. Also, the driving controls are so damn touchy that you try to ajust course slightly to avoid an obstacle you end up almost heading back the way you came. I could quite easily pive without the driving sequences, both in ME 1 and ME 2. Another thing with the driving. Everytime you get into a Mako, or Hammerhead in 2, you have your squad with you, so what's with the driving and firing? Are my two squadmates incapable of doing either of these things?

But those aren't gamebreakers for me, so I'll keep working through ME1 so I can then import to 2 then import to 3.

[Primalrose]

Anybody who started with ME2 would find it alot harder to go to ME1 and understandably so. Heck going back now, it's been hard adjusting to the clunkier combat mechanics and the infiltrator class sucks like hell compared to how it is in ME2 and 3. Still, ME1's story is far superior in my opinion, and ME2 feels like pointless filler. 

Modifié par Primalrose, 27 mars 2012 - 10:25 .