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[thoaloa]

I don't think these comments are going to encourage them to discuss anything if you just attack them. I hate the endings but insulting the people who are suppose to be fixing it isn't going to work in any world. (The Artistic argument is moot when it's clear that deadlines caused content to be dropped and DLCed, endings to be roughed out in the nicest sense)

[the red boon]

Patting himself on the back.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

Its no longer art when you have day one DLC.

[Necroscope]

Cody211282 wrote...

How would you defend this?

Modifié par Necroscope, 24 mars 2012 - 10:44 .

[fafnir magnus]

If they need encouragement to defend their piece of "art", it isn't worth defending.

[Shaoken]

He's probably under his desk, drinking himself to sleep. Then in his dreams the Shepard will appear to him and tell him the real story of how Mass Effect 3 ended. And so he begins his journey to set right what was wrong.

And along the way he also ends up getting Half-Life 3 released too.

[NM_Che56]

He has to be careful with what he says now and needs to wait for it to be okay to discuss future content

[LuckySe7enty]

i really want to know what the developers think of their endings instead of pr

[alx119]

Cody211282 wrote...

How would you defend this?

[Sparse]

Kotaku said that they had spent a week trying to get a quote from Bioware on the whole thing and had been greeted by silence. I guess it was how they decided to handle it, so he will be gagged until PAX, if not permanently.

[rivqa]

thoaloa wrote...

I don't think these comments are going to encourage them to discuss anything if you just attack them. I hate the endings but insulting the people who are suppose to be fixing it isn't going to work in any world.

Yes this.

[alx119]

rivqa wrote...

thoaloa wrote...

I don't think these comments are going to encourage them to discuss anything if you just attack them. I hate the endings but insulting the people who are suppose to be fixing it isn't going to work in any world.

Yes this.

We're not really insulting anyone though. Just questioning their actions. Or rather, lack of actions. 

[naes1984]

What vision? Oh no! We have to put this game out in March. What am I going to do? What am I going to do? Uh, Uh, Uh, Uh, STARCHILD! Problem solved. Now let's move on to writing some fetch quests for SWTOR.

[Keldon Northwind]

Because he can't. Simple as that. The ending is a travesty.

[dahilla]

Cody211282 wrote...

How would you defend this?

They could give us the silent treatment, so let's be happy they didn't go for that.

Oh, wait, right.

Modifié par dahilla, 24 mars 2012 - 10:57 .

[Madecologist]

DrowVampyre wrote...

So...you're saying he's grounded without internet until...oh...the heat death of the universe?

That is just funny, especially since I was watching my old DVD collection and watched the science documentary about this very subject recently.

Modifié par Madecologist, 24 mars 2012 - 11:01 .

[Peranor]

Evil_medved wrote...

Artistic integrity my ass, all game developers care about is money. As they should be, as its a business, not an art. So, they thinking what decision will bring them more money, and will act accordingly in April.

Yeah, I don't buy in to that "Artistic integrity" bullcrap either. If they had any artistic integrity they would not end the game with "plea$e buy more DLC lol".
And if they was worried about their artistic integrity to start with they would not team up with EA.
We all know they are in it for the money. And don't get me wrong, it's nothing wrong with that. It's just capitalism.
But when they are hiding behind the "artistic integrity" mantra they just look silly.

[Cody211282]

dahilla wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

How would you defend this?

They could give us the silent treatment, so let's be happy they didn't go for that.

Oh, wait, right.

I'm going to start doing this at work to cutomers, they don't like how I do something then I will just refuse to talk to them.

Modifié par Cody211282, 24 mars 2012 - 10:59 .

[smegmalongbeach]

what could he possibly say that wouldnt make every one who is on the witch hunt just explode with hate

I mean you have seen the "profesional disection" of what ray was "really" saying in his letter
 
plus he gave a statement, two I believe. one in the digital trends interview and one on the this site.

bioware has also commited to more information in april

other than debating on the forums [we know how constructive that can be] he has done exactly what he should of done and everyone will find out more in april

*edit - also he should not have too. if you dont like the ending move on and dont ever buy a game he produces ever again if you are that upset

Modifié par smegmalongbeach, 24 mars 2012 - 11:04 .

[Militarized]

thoaloa wrote...

I don't think these comments are going to encourage them to discuss anything if you just attack them. I hate the endings but insulting the people who are suppose to be fixing it isn't going to work in any world. (The Artistic argument is moot when it's clear that deadlines caused content to be dropped and DLCed, endings to be roughed out in the nicest sense)

It's just a little fun, don't get so butt hurt . 

[DrowVampyre]

Cody211282 wrote...

dahilla wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

How would you defend this?

They could give us the silent treatment, so let's be happy they didn't go for that.

Oh, wait, right.

I'm going to start doing this at work to cutomers, they don't like how I do something then I will just refuse to talk to them.

Don't forget to ask them for feedback, but only acknowledge the compliments, all the while crypitcally mentioning coupons that may or may not exist at some point and whose offer is anyone's guess.

[GoblinSapper]

Kawamura wrote...

Nyctyris wrote...

because he has a brain [...] and has a responsibility to act professionally.

[AlexMBrennan]

If fans are angry with the product, explaining why you think they're wrong may not be the smartest thing - besides, the professional game reviewers are doing it for Bioware, and look at how much flak they're taking for it.

[Kawamura]

smegmalongbeach wrote...

what could he possibly say that wouldnt make every one who is on the witch hunt just explode with hate

I mean you have seen the "profesional disection" of what ray was "really" saying in his letter
 
plus he gave a statement, two I believe. one in the digital trends interview and one on the this site.

bioware has also commited to more information in april

other than debating on the forums [we know how constructive that can be] he has done exactly what he should of done and everyone will find out more in april

Exactly. 

Criticism is hard to take. Must be harder, I figure, if you've got thousands of people criticizing you at levels ranging from casual and mild disappointment to "I WILL HAVE YOUR HEAD AND I INSULT YOUR MOTHER'S SEXUAL ORIENATION". 

It's a ****ty ending. It's probabl a rushed ending. I think of it as the massive video game equivalent of when you're running late to class and you've got a paper due, so you just dash off anything just so you can have it done to turn in. The problem at the moment is that they're not recognizing a mistake (and there's a mistake, no doubt about that) and are disparaging their fans, but really, there's no way for him to "defend" himself at this moment, not from what he's being hit with.