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[Chealec]

Anybody who said Durability at rank 4 on Tech Amour ... makes me a sad panda

Why? TECH ARMOUR!
(I've completed the TA challenge in Tech Mastery 12 times now - the extra damage/radius is, IMO, far more useful than a 5% damage reduction on a Krogan)


Tech Armour (6) : Damage & Radius > Melee Damage > Durability

Lift Grenades (6) : Damage > Max Grenades > Damage & Radius

Incinerate (0) :

Krogan Berserker (6) : Damage & Capacity  > Power Damage > Weapon Damage (for the grenades)

Fitness (6) : Melee Damage > Martial Artist > Pure Rage


Weapons:
Graal + Omni-bade + Shotgun High Calibre Barrel (the vanilla damage booster)
Talon + Pistol Magazine Upgrade + Armour Piercing


Gear/Equipment:
Berserker Mod 5
Incendiary ammo
Strength/Shotgun mod
Cyclonic Modulator


The Krogan Berserker tree; there is a reason...
Against mooks I don't want to kill them outright with the Graal - I want some damage and stagger but NOT to kill them - if I kill them with the gun I lose the opportunity to kill them with a melee, which makes it harder to keep rage up.

If there's a big mob ... lob in a Lift Grenade to soften them up (and stagger), charge in with a heavy melee, detonate Tech Armour (more stagger) then continue with the heavy melee mixed with some gunfire and maybe, if required, another Lift Grenade.

If there's a small infantry mob you can pretty much do the same thing but without the lift grenades.

Phantoms/Goons (single Pyros): shoot to stagger, heavy melee (TECH ARMOUR if they're still alive)

Pyro mob : Lift Grenades

Only real problems are Banshees, Praetorians, Scions, Atlases and Primes... all of which require a lot of shooting and that's where you might miss the weapon damage increase in the passive.

Modifié par Chealec, 16 avril 2013 - 12:28 .

[Chealec]

lol damnit - didn't notice the necro ... need more coffee...

[ThelLastTruePatriot]

hmm Necroed, well played.

Modifié par ThelLastTruePatriot, 16 avril 2013 - 12:34 .

[k1ngl1ves]

Inb4Jediballz...

[k1ngl1ves]

Chealec wrote...

lol damnit - didn't notice the necro ... need more coffee...

Your weapons:  Why are you using 2 shotguns?  There has to be something better than the Talon if you're already packing the Graal?  Why not a shield stripper or an smg?  Please elaborate...

That would seem to fix your boss issue...

Modifié par k1ngl1ves, 16 avril 2013 - 12:44 .

[Miniditka77]

Has anyone ever tried a pure power damage build for the Krogan Sentinel using Incinerate and Cryo Ammo?  If you take all power damage bonuses, plus the power damage bonus from Tech Armor and the 100% bonus to chilled enemies, you could do a pretty good amount of damage with Incinerate after Cryo effects are applied.  Also, you could chuck Lift Grenades during the cooldown with pretty hefty power damage bonuses too.

It would seem to be an ideal setup for using the Adas with a magazine mod and melee mod.  Of course the Falcon would work OK, as would the Acolyte.  The Talon or Reegar (of course) may be a good choice too.

I think I'm going to try this the next time I get a respec card, even though it makes me feel dirty to use a Krogan without a Claymore or Graal + Omni Blade.   I'm thinking 5/6/6/5/4 or maybe 6/6/6/5/3.

[HolyAvenger]

Miniditka77 wrote...

Has anyone ever tried a pure power damage build for the Krogan Sentinel using Incinerate and Cryo Ammo?  If you take all power damage bonuses, plus the power damage bonus from Tech Armor and the 100% bonus to chilled enemies, you could do a pretty good amount of damage with Incinerate after Cryo effects are applied.  Also, you could chuck Lift Grenades during the cooldown with pretty hefty power damage bonuses too.

It would seem to be an ideal setup for using the Adas with a magazine mod and melee mod.  Of course the Falcon would work OK, as would the Acolyte.  The Talon or Reegar (of course) may be a good choice too.

I think I'm going to try this the next time I get a respec card, even though it makes me feel dirty to use a Krogan without a Claymore or Graal + Omni Blade.   I'm thinking 5/6/6/5/4 or maybe 6/6/6/5/3.

 

I use a 56663 grenade-nuking, shotgun (Wraith, Claymore, Graal, Raider etc) w/incendiary ammo + incinerate for FEs build.

The liftnades are great on clumps of enemies, shooting + FEs does a number on bosses. 

Works very well. 

[Beerfish]

Should be one of the very best melee characters in the game. Is actually very fun to play a full melee build up to a point but in the end simply is not worth while due to sync kills from bosses.

[Miniditka77]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Miniditka77 wrote...

Has anyone ever tried a pure power damage build for the Krogan Sentinel using Incinerate and Cryo Ammo?  If you take all power damage bonuses, plus the power damage bonus from Tech Armor and the 100% bonus to chilled enemies, you could do a pretty good amount of damage with Incinerate after Cryo effects are applied.  Also, you could chuck Lift Grenades during the cooldown with pretty hefty power damage bonuses too.

It would seem to be an ideal setup for using the Adas with a magazine mod and melee mod.  Of course the Falcon would work OK, as would the Acolyte.  The Talon or Reegar (of course) may be a good choice too.

I think I'm going to try this the next time I get a respec card, even though it makes me feel dirty to use a Krogan without a Claymore or Graal + Omni Blade.   I'm thinking 5/6/6/5/4 or maybe 6/6/6/5/3.

 

I use a 56663 grenade-nuking, shotgun (Wraith, Claymore, Graal, Raider etc) w/incendiary ammo + incinerate for FEs build.

The liftnades are great on clumps of enemies, shooting + FEs does a number on bosses. 

Works very well. 

That does sound like it would work pretty well, and would definitely put out more DPS than my build. But I'm trying to find something to do with all my Cryo ammo (and I'm running short of Incendiary ammo).  I don't really play Platinum, but I'm thinking the Cryo build would be fine for Gold.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Miniditka77 wrote...

Has anyone ever tried a pure power damage build for the Krogan Sentinel using Incinerate and Cryo Ammo?  If you take all power damage bonuses, plus the power damage bonus from Tech Armor and the 100% bonus to chilled enemies, you could do a pretty good amount of damage with Incinerate after Cryo effects are applied.  Also, you could chuck Lift Grenades during the cooldown with pretty hefty power damage bonuses too.

It would seem to be an ideal setup for using the Adas with a magazine mod and melee mod.  Of course the Falcon would work OK, as would the Acolyte.  The Talon or Reegar (of course) may be a good choice too.

I think I'm going to try this the next time I get a respec card, even though it makes me feel dirty to use a Krogan without a Claymore or Graal + Omni Blade.   I'm thinking 5/6/6/5/4 or maybe 6/6/6/5/3.

 

I use a 56663 grenade-nuking, shotgun (Wraith, Claymore, Graal, Raider etc) w/incendiary ammo + incinerate for FEs build.

The liftnades are great on clumps of enemies, shooting + FEs does a number on bosses. 

Works very well. 

Same here.  KSent used to be my favorite melee character, but I've grown a bit tired of melee and have been enjoying the very same build.  I usually pack a Claymore, but I could see more FEs with a Wraith. 

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Miniditka77 wrote...

That does sound like it would work pretty well, and would definitely put out more DPS than my build. But I'm trying to find something to do with all my Cryo ammo (and I'm running short of Incendiary ammo).  I don't really play Platinum, but I'm thinking the Cryo build would be fine for Gold.

I understand, but at some point, it might just be better to forsake the Cryo Ammo.

One build that actually does decently with Cryo is the FQE with Adas & Incinerate spec'd for Freeze Combo.  Bring a ULM Hurricane for Guardians.
Cryo Blast debuff, Cryo Ammo, Incinerate & Rocket Turret all add together to pack on decent damage.

Honestly, you actually still might do more damage by using Disruptor or Incendiary Ammo, but it's a use for Cryo Ammo, at least.

Also, Adepts are not bad with Cryo Ammo, though you'd be missing out on Warp Ammo's amazing damage bonus.

[Rixatrix]

Those necro threads.

I might be a minority, but i do spec into incinerate. Not only that, i use an executioner pistol with melee mod and power mod. Or power mod and extended barrel. 46664 or 56663. More power or more survivability. Incinerate doesn't synergize with lift grenades but they still do nice damage against armor and can detonate ammo powers. Beyond all of that it makes enemies sidestep or stagger for easy kill shots. Also why would you need more than 1 gun. If youre at long range thros incinerates. At medium and less you have a huge arsenal between melee, grenades, pistols, and more incinerate. With the increased carry capacity a krogan can carry some surprisingly large weapons. 160 with a lightweighted kishock, 190 with heavy barrel executioner, etc.

[Chealec]

k1ngl1ves wrote...

Chealec wrote...

lol damnit - didn't notice the necro ... need more coffee...

Your weapons:  Why are you using 2 shotguns?  There has to be something better than the Talon if you're already packing the Graal?  Why not a shield stripper or an smg?  Please elaborate...

That would seem to fix your boss issue...

Armour piercing for Guardians - otherwise I never use it, can't be doing with weapon swapping. Melee all the things!




But yeah, I should really use a Hurricane as secondary.