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Addai67 wrote...

They fired the main producer guy in the middle of shooting and there was also pressure to get the cost down. They were told to do more indoors shooting. All those action sequences cost big bucks. So, what we got was The Waltons with a lot of "sharing" instead of a zombie action show.

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I kinda like how it's more of a character-drama set in a zombie apocalypse.

Granted, I do want a decent number of zombies to be in the episodes, but I like how it's character-driven instead of "Zombies! Shoot them!".

And the season finale was probably worth it in the end methinks. That was one of my favorite episodes.

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I wish Shane didn't get killed. He was always on that line between doing what has to be done and downright crazy. I'm going to blame Rick's crazy wife for driving him over the edge.

Also, I can't stand Carl. I wouldn't flinch of some zombie gets him next time that ****** kid wanders off.

Rick finally seems to be taking charge, but I'm wondering if his still clinging to this foolish sense of ethics that led to the whole Randall fiasco.

What I really want to know is WTF was with that person with the katanas and chained up zombies?

Modifié par ReconTeam, 25 mars 2012 - 11:59 .


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ReconTeam wrote...
What I really want to know is WTF was with thtt person with the katanas and chained up zombies?


Ah yes I was wondering about that too and then I found this http://en.wikipedia....onne#Television
Apparently she is from the original comic books.
So many chars died already - they need to introduce some new ones.

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Carl really is at fault for Dale's death. Instead of shooting a zombie that's stuck in the mud, he taunts it.

He's an idiot and I just wanted to punch him.

ReconTeam wrote...

What I really want to know is WTF was with thtt person with the katanas and chained up zombies?


Her name is Michonne. I won't tell you about the two zombies other then the fact that by having them near her -- but also in a way that keeps her safe from them -- she's able to keep zombies from noticing her.

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xkg wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...
What I really want to know is WTF was with thtt person with the katanas and chained up zombies?


Ah yes I was wondering about that too and then I found this http://en.wikipedia....onne#Television
Apparently she is from the original comic books.
So many chars died already - they need to introduce some new ones.


Is it just me or is it really irksome when they change a character's ethnicity or gender when switching mediums? I hope they don't do that here, since she looks pretty bad ass in that comic panel.

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Is it just me or is it really irksome when they change a character's ethnicity or gender when switching mediums? I hope they don't do that here, since she looks pretty bad ass in that comic panel.


They're not. Michonne will be played by Danai Gurira.

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Well, you know, with the implicit social criticism, zombie movies wouldn't be zombie movies without character drama. Not to mention that in any crisis situation, the most dangerous thing is actually the panic of your companions.

Also not a zombie movie without zombies, though - the first Resident Evil movie started off with almost none, then poured them on, and that was a mistake. They need to pop up every now and then to remind people why all this is happening.

As far as new characters, there will definitely be more soon.

And people should quit complaining bout Shane, he's long dead in the comics. He tries to turn on Rick in the woods and Carl kills him. His character wasn't completely irredeemable - he was protecting Lori and Carl as his own little surrogate family in Rick's absence, and before Rick came along he was leading the group - but he existed to be a heel. His presence in the plot was not intended to last.

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Damn, that's a shame about Shane - I liked him at first, especially when he laid the beatdown on Ed. I figured that the scene in the woods would lead to a betrayal somewhere down the road, though.

*hasn't seen Season 2 and has pretty much spoiled most of it for himself thanks to this thread*

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
I kinda like how it's more of a character-drama set in a zombie apocalypse.

Granted, I do want a decent number of zombies to be in the episodes, but I like how it's character-driven instead of "Zombies! Shoot them!".

And the season finale was probably worth it in the end methinks. That was one of my favorite episodes.

But... every character is so freaking annoying that I end up rooting for the zombies.

I just think the writing is terrible.  Hoping it gets better.

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xkg wrote...

ReconTeam wrote...
What I really want to know is WTF was with thtt person with the katanas and chained up zombies?


Ah yes I was wondering about that too and then I found this http://en.wikipedia....onne#Television
Apparently she is from the original comic books.
So many chars died already - they need to introduce some new ones.


Think the end of season one with the start of season two. You loose a bunch of characters and more show up. That prison will me similiar to the farm.

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@greengoron89 the thread says spoilers lol. You should have watched and then came here.

But yeah my friend read the comics and if they're any indication - next season is going to be insanely awesome. :D

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@Addai67 The writing isn't bad, it's actually brilliant. You say the characters are annoying, but don't consider that they're in the middle of an apocalypse. They aren't going to be coherent or rational, and would never agree on anything (exactly what happens in the show). Using the context of the story, if they weren't "annoying" it wouldn't be accurate to an apocalypse.

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@greengoron89 the thread says spoilers lol. You should have watched and then came here.


I knew that - but putting "spoilers" in the title was like turning on a bug zapper. Lured me right in and fried me.

Season 2 is spoiled, and it's all your fault. I demand the title of the thread be changed - I'll make sure we retake the Walking Dead thread one way or another. HOLD THE LINE.

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gamer_girl wrote...

@Addai67 The writing isn't bad, it's actually brilliant. You say the characters are annoying, but don't consider that they're in the middle of an apocalypse. They aren't going to be coherent or rational, and would never agree on anything (exactly what happens in the show). Using the context of the story, if they weren't "annoying" it wouldn't be accurate to an apocalypse.

Well if you're a fan of season 2, obviously you're not going to agree with me.  I think the writing sucked badly.  Whenever they needed drama, because they hadn't built up natural drama and tension, they handed someone the idiot ball.  The characters are all stereotypes.  Just like the Cracked article I posted up above- I agree with that guy about pretty much everything.  I just hope he's right that it has to get better.

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The prison and the Governor offer the two best opportunities for the show not to suck going forward.

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BTW guys - there is an adventure game based on The Walking Dead comming.
http://www.telltaleg...om/walkingdead/


And another one - this one is zombie survival themed RPG - Dead State
http://www.deadstate...roductions.com/
It is being designed by Brian Mitsoda - the same guy who made the best (imo of coursePosted Image) game of all the times - VtM:Bloodlines.

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If Lori and Carl had been killed instead of Shane, I think they could have got the bromance back on.

Still, the figure in white (Dale) and in the figure in black (Shane) have both been killed in suitable ways now, there's room for more character development and zombicide.



Addai67 wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

@Addai67
The writing isn't bad, it's actually brilliant. You say the characters
are annoying, but don't consider that they're in the middle of an
apocalypse. They aren't going to be coherent or rational, and would
never agree on anything (exactly what happens in the show). Using the
context of the story, if they weren't "annoying" it wouldn't be accurate
to an apocalypse.

Well if you're a fan of season 2, obviously
you're not going to agree with me.  I think the writing sucked badly. 
Whenever they needed drama, because they hadn't built up natural drama
and tension, they handed someone the idiot ball.  The characters are all
stereotypes.  Just like the Cracked article I posted up above- I agree
with that guy about pretty much everything.  I just hope he's right that
it has to get better.


The writing has been gradually improving. I like the fact the relationships and characters that relied on hackneyed simplification have started to get whittled down or improved upon during season 2 - it had the ring of knowing improvement to me.

Things look good for season 3 imo.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 26 mars 2012 - 09:57 .


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i know the kids working on the show put in a lot of effort but..still, child actors... Is that fair? :S

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Addai67 wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

@Addai67 The writing isn't bad, it's actually brilliant. You say the characters are annoying, but don't consider that they're in the middle of an apocalypse. They aren't going to be coherent or rational, and would never agree on anything (exactly what happens in the show). Using the context of the story, if they weren't "annoying" it wouldn't be accurate to an apocalypse.

Well if you're a fan of season 2, obviously you're not going to agree with me.  I think the writing sucked badly.  Whenever they needed drama, because they hadn't built up natural drama and tension, they handed someone the idiot ball.  The characters are all stereotypes.  Just like the Cracked article I posted up above- I agree with that guy about pretty much everything.  I just hope he's right that it has to get better.


I agree with Addai67 to a degree, most of the writing was pretty awful and people seemed to do strange random things just to add a bit of drama. Like Lori going off in the car to bring Rick, Glen and Herschel back. But I enjoyed it inspite of this, the characters were mostly so hateful that tuning in each week hoping something awful happened to them became kind of fun for me. There are some characters I don't completely hate though, Rick is alright in his own way, Herschel is fine, Glen is mostly ok other than the whole bizarre Maggie thing, Darryl is cool.

But as I said before Lori is just a terrible human being.

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Don't know how many of you visit or follow Nerdist's[/quote] podcasts but I was just catching up with their podcast wit Key & Peele, and it was so funny how they were echoing what so many people here were saying. I guess the middle of season 2 is a chore but there's a pay off at the end. I just saw the first episode of season 2, and I can see how it might unravel into a chore a few episodes down the road.

[quote]The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

[quote]Is it just me or is it really irksome when they change a character's ethnicity or gender when switching mediums? I hope they don't do that here, since she looks pretty bad ass in that comic panel.[/quote]

They're not. Michonne will be played by Danai Gurira.

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Well she's attractive to say the least. Hopefully she's as bad ass as she looks in the comic book art I've seen of her/

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Cant wait till Lori is killed off (She better be) Also dont care for Carl or Andrea.. Glad Shane is gone.. They better not develop a relationship between Daryl and Carol.. Sort of seems they are doing that (Might be just me) Daryl and Glen are my favourite characters

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Well, when Michonne showed up, I literally screammed "Effff Yeah!!!!", "Perfect!". As bada** as in the comic books! The best moment in the whole second season. But the Governor should be Danny Trejo, not David Morrisey.

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The funny thing is that Michonne in the season finale wasn't played by the actress I cited as the one going to play her for season 3, but a stand-in. Danai Gurira is going to be playing her for season 3, but she just didn't play her for the small cameo at the end of season 2.

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Dat look;

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Lori also kinda egged Shane on in the episode where Shane was killed. I forget what she said to him when he was up on a platform, but I think the gist of it was "You have to do what you have to do".

But I'm not so sure she was mad at Rick for killing Shane, but that Carl was there and that Carl killed Shane's zombified form.

Before Rick said Carl shot Shane, she was still holding onto him and I think was trying to be understanding.

Then she finds out Carl shot Shane and she's just like "WTF Rick?!"

And it's not even Rick's fault to begin with. Absolutely no one bothers to keep an eye on the kid.