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[HenkieDePost]

Actually, I don't get why we shouldn't be able to get a good ending. If we did everything we could, got every asset, got every good thing, did everything in order to save as many people as we could, then why can't we get a good ending? I think it is a little bit strange to just say: Screw the customers, they get a bad ending, a bittersweet ending, an even badder ending, but no good ending, even if they did everything they could to get the best character ever. I don't understand why people don't want a bad ending at all. It shouldnt be like that you get the good ending while not doing anything at all, but it should be there. People have different wishes, and it was their job to make as many 'wishes' come true as possible, in which they failed.

[Eclipse merc]

Blue babies?

[HenkieDePost]

Eclipse merc wrote...

Blue babies?

I actually prefer human babies, but I must be different or something...

Modifié par HenkieDePost, 24 mars 2012 - 04:18 .

[annoyingpoodle]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Or, if they do make a happy ending DLC, make it an ACTUAL "happy ending", ifyouknowwhatimean.

LOL

[Alesteir]

I would like the chance for one yes but what I'd like more in clarity to know what happened because after you choose your color it get's very confusing (Not to mention super space ghost kid I'm not even going there) Plus after you choose your color you get practically the same ending sequence. (don't even get me started on how I and my crew get blasted but they appear on the ship unphased while I had my armor torn and blooded)

[Heimdall]

Shinian2 wrote...

Noone asked for this and noone at Bioware said they were thinking of doing this.

Some have asked, actually

[Heimdall]

Alesteir wrote...

I would like the chance for one yes but what I'd like more in clarity to know what happened because after you choose your color it get's very confusing (Not to mention super space ghost kid I'm not even going there) Plus after you choose your color you get practically the same ending sequence. (don't even get me started on how I and my crew get blasted but they appear on the ship unphased while I had my armor torn and blooded)

Actually, they didn't necesarily get killed.  Coats survived, the charging force was decimated but not entirely wiped out.  Why they pulled out?  That's another issue...

[DeinonSlayer]

fetissimies wrote...

Adding a Disney Movie ending just to please a bunch of whiners would be a huge disappointment in my opinion. I hope Bioware has the guts to stand behind their original game design.

It has been a frequent accusation on these boards that those of us seeking revision of the ending of Mass Effect 3 want a "happy ending." Condescending references to sunshine, rainbows, and partying Ewoks have been endemic.

Primarily, we want Bioware to deliver on their promise of divergent endings, differing as a consequence of your actions throughout. At present, the narrative decision which was made regarding the Mass Relays renders most of our decisions and achievements throughout the game pointless. We would prefer that the endings make sense, and remain thematically consistent with the rest of the series. I'm not asking that the current endings be removed; rather, for more options.

Options, after all, have been the foundation of the story.

I have no interest in ever doing a playthrough with a same-sex romance. More power to those who do, but I don't swing that way.

I don't think I could stomach watching the Geth destroy the Quarian Migrant Fleet, even on YouTube. The thought of letting that happen actually makes me feel physically ill. The reverse? Not so much. Others have a different opinion.

In all three games, paths are open to me that I have no intention of ever following. The fact that these options exist does not offend me, or turn me off to playing the game altogether. This is a branching story, and everyone has their own goals, their own morals, their own expectations and perspectives.

The same principle rings true here. There are people who want a bittersweet ending for Shepard and his/her crew; who find it the most appropriate outcome for their narrative. I don't begrudge anyone for that, and I think those endings should definitely be included. I, personally, want the opportunity to earn something more, and I'm willing to work for it. I'm not asking for a parade, or a pretentious medal ceremony. I'd be appalled by Ewoks, or a party of any kind - precisely because, in a galaxy in ruins, it would to my mind be wholly inappropriate. It wouldn't take much. A chance to keep the relays intact, an ME2-style walk through the Normandy, or Shepard waking up in a hospital with his/her LI's hand on their shoulder would probably do it. Perhaps a minute-long cutscene before or after the credits, showing them having fulfilled the promises they made. Something simple, and quiet, which leaves the future open to the player's imagination. Even a somber ending could be considered a happy one.

The fact that Mass Effect's narrative finds ways to accommodate so many of us is what makes this series so remarkable. There's no reason to throw that out in the last five minutes of the trilogy. We all want the endings to make more sense. But if they're all invariably depressing, it's going to hurt replay value.

I would argue it already has.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 24 mars 2012 - 04:43 .

[Ael]

There have been several post here and elsewhere with more viable endings than what "Casey" deems the greatest ending of all time.

And since the writing for those is already done for them, shouldn't take em too long to make a patch to have real choices for an ending and not the ending with the same result different colored destruction beam that we have at the moment

[Reorte]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...

Noone asked for this and noone at Bioware said they were thinking of doing this.

Some have asked, actually

No-one has asked that the ending should be inevitably happy, only that one should be a possibility, or that it should be an everyone-lives, Reapers defeated with no damage whatsoever absurdly happy ending.

[Sequin]

fetissimies wrote...

Adding a Disney Movie ending just to please a bunch of whiners would be a huge disappointment in my opinion. I hope Bioware has the guts to stand behind their original game design.

Not all Disney movies have happy endings. But while we're on the subject, I think ME4 should be a musical.

[Heimdall]

Reorte wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...

Noone asked for this and noone at Bioware said they were thinking of doing this.

Some have asked, actually

No-one has asked that the ending should be inevitably happy, only that one should be a possibility, or that it should be an everyone-lives, Reapers defeated with no damage whatsoever absurdly happy ending.

I have seen several posters asking for something that amounted to this and a happily ever after for Shepard and LI.  They're a minority but I have seen a few.

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 24 mars 2012 - 04:35 .

[HenkieDePost]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

fetissimies wrote...

Adding a Disney Movie ending just to
please a bunch of whiners would be a huge disappointment in my opinion. I
hope Bioware has the guts to stand behind their original game design.

It has been a frequent accusation on these boards that those of us seeking revision of the ending of Mass Effect 3 want a "happy ending." Condescending references to sunshine, rainbows, and partying Ewoks have been endemic.

Primarily, we want Bioware to deliver on their promise of divergent endings, differing as a consequence of your actions throughout. At present, the narrative decision which was made regarding the Mass Relays renders most of our decisions and achievements throughout the game pointless. We would prefer that the endings make sense, and remain thematically consistent with the rest of the series. I'm not asking that the current endings be removed; rather, for more options.

Options, after all, have been the foundation of the story.

I have no interest in ever doing a playthrough with a same-sex romance. More power to those who do, but I don't swing that way.

I don't think I could stomach watching the Geth destroy the Quarian Migrant Fleet, even on YouTube. The thought of letting that happen actually makes me feel physically ill. The reverse? Not so much. Others have a different opinion.

In all three games, paths are open to me that I have no intention of ever following. The fact that these options exist does not offend me, or turn me off to playing the game altogether. This is a branching story, and everyone has their own goals, their own morals, their own expectations and perspectives.

The same principle rings true here. There are people who want a bittersweet ending for Shepard and his/her crew; who find it the most appropriate outcome for their narrative. I don't begrudge anyone for that, and I think those endings should definitely be included. I, personally, want the opportunity to earn something more, and I'm willing to work for it. I'm not asking for a parade, or a pretentious medal ceremony. I'd be appalled by Ewoks, or a party of any kind - precisely because, in a galaxy in ruins, it would to my mind be wholly inappropriate. It wouldn't take much. A chance to keep the relays intact, an ME2-style walk through the Normandy, or Shepard waking up in a hospital with his/her LI's hand on their shoulder would probably do it. Perhaps a minute-long cutscene before or after the credits, showing them having fulfilled the promises they made. Something simple, and quiet, which leaves the future open to the player's imagination. Even a somber ending could be considered a happy one.

The fact that Mass Effect's narrative finds ways to accommodate so many of us is what makes this series so remarkable. There's no reason to throw that out in the last five minutes of the trilogy. We all want the endings to make more sense. But if they're all invariably depressing, it's going to hurt replay value.

I would argue it already has.

This sir, is exactly what I wanted to say. This game has been about choices all the time. I can and will never be a renegade. I just can't be the bad guy in a game like this. Every time I push a renegade button, I regret it, but that doesn't mean I'm angry about the fact that it is included. The same reason goes with the ending. What is so bad about a 'good ending' If you played the 3 games trying the best you could to save the galaxy, only to find out that there is no difference compared to the worst ending (almost no difference) is not exactly rewarding...

[Shunt Mcblunt]

Funny to think ME3 was an ending. I am sorry Bioware - No war is over till the Guys / Ladies come home. All those Aliens trapped in Sol system will never get home because the Relays are gone. So the war is not over because they need to get back to love one who care. Think about the Wars US have been in Vietnam, Korea, and Iraq. A war is not over till the last person touches home soil even in a game.

So yes there needs to be a Ewok party ending.

Modifié par Shunt Mcblunt, 24 mars 2012 - 04:42 .

[Melca36]

fetissimies wrote...

Adding a Disney Movie ending just to please a bunch of whiners would be a huge disappointment in my opinion. I hope Bioware has the guts to stand behind their original game design.

Lets not stereotype Disney films please.

The Black Hole was a Disney flick and it did not have a happy ending at all.

[BiancoAngelo7]

Hey look at me, I don't want one of the possible endings to be a happy one so Bioware pretty please could you take away that choice from everybody else? Becuase clearly what I like is what everyone else should be forced to like as well.

Sincerely,

OP

[ziloe]

What is wrong with you? Why do people keep thinking a happy ending is a disney movie? Like really, omg. It's such a dumb mentality.

[Texansamurai]

fetissimies wrote...

Adding a Disney Movie ending just to please a bunch of whiners would be a huge disappointment in my opinion. I hope Bioware has the guts to stand behind their original game design.

Why does it matter if its alternate?

[Texhnolyze101]

Don't buy it then.

[Reverend002]

I think there should be a happy ending option. Shepard survived 2 near impossible missions only to die now? I don't see reason why there shouldn't be an option.

All I really want is closure, not a "congrats bro, go buy the DLC" at the end.

[Fuzrum77]

ONE of the endings should be happy. I've posted this before: what the hell is wrong with happy? I like being happy. Do you? If you don't, I don't understand you and we have nothing to discuss.

Also: Happy doesn't mean Disney. See Braveheart. -That- is a bittersweet victory ending. Mass Effect 3 currently is not.

[Artemis_Entrari]

Dalako wrote...

Strawmen and ad hominems are the weapons of choice for the pro-ending crowd.

This.

Also, why does a "happy ending" have to be referred to as a "Disney Movie"?  I'm pretty sure I've seen hundreds of movies not made by Disney, many of the dark and grim variety, many of the R-rated variety,  that involved what would be considered a happy ending.

[hyperforce99]

We're not asking for a flowers and rainbows ending. Quite frankly the universe is ransacked throughout the course of the game. All we're asking for is the ability to gain a whole spectrum of outcomes, and not the galactic civilization destroying plot-hole ridden ending created with a deus ex machina we got in the box.

If Shepard needs to die to make that ending possible, so be it. I would like it if its possible to, if all the pieces line up, survive, and get a best case scenario ending. But in that same sense it should be possible to completely doom the universe if the wrong choices are made and effectively hand it over to the reapers on a silver platter. The problem is, we got neither of those.

All we got was effectively 1 ending that shoots us into the far future with no closure on what happened to the characters and civilizations you try to save. Leaves us with a ton of questions and in some cases makes no sense whatsoever.

Modifié par hyperforce99, 24 mars 2012 - 05:36 .

[kofelover]

It's not possible to have a "happy" ending given the state of the galaxy. But it is possible to have an ending where Shepard at least lives (and does NOT REQUIRE MP). That would satisfy a great number of people I think and give replayability to the trilogy.

[DeinonSlayer]

kofelover wrote...

It's not possible to have a "happy" ending given the state of the galaxy. But it is possible to have an ending where Shepard at least lives (and does NOT REQUIRE MP). That would satisfy a great number of people I think and give replayability to the trilogy.

Lives, and is not stranded half a galaxy away from everyone (s)he cares about.