fetissimies wrote...
Adding a Disney Movie ending just to please a bunch of whiners would be a huge disappointment in my opinion. I hope Bioware has the guts to stand behind their original game design.
AlanC9 wrote...
-Skorpious- wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
How do I end up with a tragic ending if Shepard can avoid it? Do I deliberately have him make stupid choices?
No, you make the choices the game already offers you. If the current choices seem stupid, then hey, perhaps they are.
But alas, roleplaying and meta-gaming rarely mix.
I think you missed my point. Since I'm RPing Shepard, he's not going to deliberately choose the tragic ending. That's kind of the point of a tragic ending, you know.
Only a metagamer will ever see a tragic ending if the game makes happy endings available.
Modifié par Femlob, 24 mars 2012 - 08:34 .
Modifié par blackangel209, 24 mars 2012 - 08:42 .
Divitiacus wrote...
How is it a Disney ending after 4 planets at least are destroyed, billions are dead, Mordin, Anderson, and Thane are dead, I mean really? If you consider anything after all of that a Disney ending, you're basically insensitive to the suffering of billions.
DeinonSlayer wrote...
It has been a frequent accusation on these boards that those of us seeking revision of the ending of Mass Effect 3 want a "happy ending." Condescending references to sunshine, rainbows, and partying Ewoks have been endemic.fetissimies wrote...
Adding a Disney Movie ending just to please a bunch of whiners would be a huge disappointment in my opinion. I hope Bioware has the guts to stand behind their original game design.
Primarily, we want Bioware to deliver on their promise of divergent endings, differing as a consequence of your actions throughout. At present, the narrative decision which was made regarding the Mass Relays renders most of our decisions and achievements throughout the game pointless. We would prefer that the endings make sense, and remain thematically consistent with the rest of the series. I'm not asking that the current endings be removed; rather, for more options.
Options, after all, have been the foundation of the story.
I have no interest in ever doing a playthrough with a same-sex romance. More power to those who do, but I don't swing that way.
I don't think I could stomach watching the Geth destroy the Quarian Migrant Fleet, even on YouTube. The thought of letting that happen actually makes me feel physically ill. The reverse? Not so much. Others have a different opinion.
In all three games, paths are open to me that I have no intention of ever following. The fact that these options exist does not offend me, or turn me off to playing the game altogether. This is a branching story, and everyone has their own goals, their own morals, their own expectations and perspectives.
The same principle rings true here. There are people who want a bittersweet ending for Shepard and his/her crew; who find it the most appropriate outcome for their narrative. I don't begrudge anyone for that, and I think those endings should definitely be included. I, personally, want the opportunity to earn something more, and I'm willing to work for it. I'm not asking for a parade, or a pretentious medal ceremony. I'd be appalled by Ewoks, or a party of any kind - precisely because, in a galaxy in ruins, it would to my mind be wholly inappropriate. It wouldn't take much. A chance to keep the relays intact, an ME2-style walk through the Normandy, or Shepard waking up in a hospital with his/her LI's hand on their shoulder would probably do it. Perhaps a minute-long cutscene before or after the credits, showing them having fulfilled the promises they made. Something simple, and quiet, which leaves the future open to the player's imagination. Even a somber ending could be considered a happy one.
The fact that Mass Effect's narrative finds ways to accommodate so many of us is what makes this series so remarkable. There's no reason to throw that out in the last five minutes of the trilogy. We all want the endings to make more sense. But if they're all invariably depressing, it's going to hurt replay value.
I would argue it already has.
fetissimies wrote...
Adding a Disney Movie ending just to please a bunch of whiners would be a huge disappointment in my opinion. I hope Bioware has the guts to stand behind their original game design.
Yeah that would make sense instead we get 1 emo ending with three different colors.But hey we wouldnt want to give that disney ending because that would be too cliche so instead we get the cliche everebody loses twist.Yeah if this is art i guess that turd i dropped in the toilet earlier today is art.DeinonSlayer wrote...
New outcomes:BootyBamBoo wrote...
It's stupid, why would they add just a happy ending? They should add a Very bad, bad, pretty bad, okay,pretty good, good and very good ending.
* Reapers win, Normandy destroyed in battle, Shepard dies, Cycle continues (Liara Archive epilogue)
* Reapers defeated, Normandy destroyed in battle, Shepard dies, Relays intact (Memorial epilogue)
* Reapers defeated, Normandy survives battle, Shepard dies, Relays intact (Funeral epilogue)
* Reapers defeated, Normandy survives battle, Shepard lives, Relays intact (LI/crew reunion, hardest to earn)
It would be easy for them to implement, too. See the poll in my sig.
I should specify that, as described in the poll, those new outcomes are in addition to the ones which already exist - they don't replace them. You're given the choice to refuse those options, and the outcome would be tied directly to your level of preparedness. Your military assets would effect the ending in a way that actually makes sense, instead of the size of the fleet you gathered determining the severity of the galaxy-shattering technicolor explosion you cause.foo man chew wrote...
Yeah that would make sense instead we get 1 emo ending with three different colors.But hey we wouldnt want to give that disney ending because that would be too cliche so instead we get the cliche everebody loses twist.Yeah if this is art i guess that turd i dropped in the toilet earlier today is art.DeinonSlayer wrote...
New outcomes:BootyBamBoo wrote...
It's stupid, why would they add just a happy ending? They should add a Very bad, bad, pretty bad, okay,pretty good, good and very good ending.
* Reapers win, Normandy destroyed in battle, Shepard dies, Cycle continues (Liara Archive epilogue)
* Reapers defeated, Normandy destroyed in battle, Shepard dies, Relays intact (Memorial epilogue)
* Reapers defeated, Normandy survives battle, Shepard dies, Relays intact (Funeral epilogue)
* Reapers defeated, Normandy survives battle, Shepard lives, Relays intact (LI/crew reunion, hardest to earn)
It would be easy for them to implement, too. See the poll in my sig.
Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 24 mars 2012 - 09:17 .
Iam2ugly wrote...
Yep. I want a happy ending. And please don't call me a whiner just because I want it. I don't call peoples who like the ending intellectually retarded for not seeing those plot holes. Keep it civil!
Rockworm503 wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
I think you missed my point. Since I'm RPing Shepard, he's not going to deliberately choose the tragic ending. That's kind of the point of a tragic ending, you know.
Only a metagamer will ever see a tragic ending if the game makes happy endings available.
Wrong only metagamers would even look at the endings before it happens.
How are you RPing SHepard if your looking at the choices as what would support the endings?
Modifié par AlanC9, 24 mars 2012 - 09:18 .
fetissimies wrote...
Adding a Disney Movie ending just to please a bunch of whiners would be a huge disappointment in my opinion. I hope Bioware has the guts to stand behind their original game design.
...What the hell am I looking at?PiEman wrote...
fetissimies wrote...
Adding a Disney Movie ending just to please a bunch of whiners would be a huge disappointment in my opinion. I hope Bioware has the guts to stand behind their original game design.
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