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(Priestly: Rumors are fake) Possible leak of April 24th DLC and next game? Either this, or an elaborate fake


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#326
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Amagoi wrote...

Definatly fake. Which is good, because this is a terrible idea. The people on 4chan get a little too into their storytimes on alt-endings for ME3. Everybody hates the Catalyst, so have Shepard possessed by the Catalyst = instant fan rage.


The honest & sad truth is it's neither fake nor true. There are no facts at this point in time, only presumptions.

This is more of a "well lets wait & see, but I wouldn't put it past them" sort of thing.

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Exploring new galaxies. Going without the Mass Relays and **** like that and you're no longer the same game.

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Exolyps wrote...

Exploring new galaxies. Going without the Mass Relays and **** like that and you're no longer the same game.


Hello spin-offs, bye bye old  IP. Right?

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krogstor wrote...

Maybe Liara gave up the position to an ally or friend. As far as EDI or Shepard being dead, OP made it clear in the first post that they were assimilated + the starchild into a character called "The Advent".

The more I think about this, the more legit it feels, because they've always wanted to justify the ending they made, not make a new one. This ties in perfectly with their ending.

Bingo.


Yep, this. The biggest thing that makes me think BW insists on keeping the current endings as-is is because they've already got plans for post ME3 titles for the franchise.

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I don't buy it, and I'm assuming most people in these 13 pages don't either.

But dearest BioWare, if you're listening anyway...
1) Good potential
2) Good potential, but man, that's depressing.
3) Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid stupid. No.

EDIT: Ahhh... didn't realize this was all 1 proposal, thought it was 3 or 4 separate ones.
Would have to know more but... from this... I'm intrigued.

Modifié par Janus382, 25 mars 2012 - 04:42 .


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Janus382 wrote...

I don't buy it, and I'm assuming most people in these 13 pages don't either.

But dearest BioWare, if you're listening anyway...
1) Good potential
2) Good potential, but man, that's depressing.
3) Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid stupid. No.


"Asari + Vorcha offspring have an allergy to dairy and do do do do do do do do." -Mordin Solus.

PeterG1 wrote...

krogstor wrote...

Maybe
Liara gave up the position to an ally or friend. As far as EDI or
Shepard being dead, OP made it clear in the first post that they were
assimilated + the starchild into a character called "The Advent".

The
more I think about this, the more legit it feels, because they've
always wanted to justify the ending they made, not make a new one. This
ties in perfectly with their ending.

Bingo.


Yep,
this. The biggest thing that makes me think BW insists on keeping the
current endings as-is is because they've already got plans for post ME3
titles for the franchise.


Exactly, I think we're looking at the future of the ME franchise and people just don't want to admit it. Goodbye intriguing gameplay, hello madden/call of duty "new-release-every-year-with-updated-rosters-and-maps" type marketing.

Modifié par krogstor, 25 mars 2012 - 04:43 .


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Janus382 wrote...

I don't buy it, and I'm assuming most people in these 13 pages don't either.

But dearest BioWare, if you're listening anyway...
1) Good potential
2) Good potential, but man, that's depressing.
3) Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid stupid. No.

EDIT: Ahhh... didn't realize this was all 1 proposal, thought it was 3 or 4 separate ones.
Would have to know more but... from this... I'm intrigued.

It really is interesting.

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I hate it when sci-fi franchises get weird as they progress chronologically (example: Ender's Game. You don't have to agree with my opinion, but I felt like the series got weird with the 3rd and 4th books).

Fortunately, this did come from 4chan, which means that the odds are pretty good that it's fake.

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How can anyone be happy with this continuation of the story since it's an extension of the illogical ME 3 ending?!

I really wish I'd never picked up a used Mass Effect game all those years ago....

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krogstor wrote...

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Exactly, I think we're looking at the future of the ME franchise and people just don't want to admit it. Goodbye intriguing gameplay, hello madden/call of duty "new-release-every-year-with-updated-rosters-and-maps" type marketing.



I'm guesssing ME is going down the Star Wars way, too much spin off, crap clogging the universe and turning itself into an hobby on it's own.

And that makes me sad, I liked ME as a self-contained franchise, it was supposed to be a trilogy but now I can see Mass Effect: Expanded Universe Revelations Episode 4 Chapter IV the tie-in to the cartoon.

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krogstor wrote...

Exactly, I think we're looking at the future of the ME franchise and people just don't want to admit it. Goodbye intriguing gameplay, hello madden/call of duty "new-release-every-year-with-updated-rosters-and-maps" type marketing.


Wow I didn't really connect those dots. If you're right, than this means EA is molding and pushing the ME franchise into their typical assembly-line style titles. Completely formulaic and generic.

I'm hopeful that the future ME titles will still be "owned" creatively by BioWare and they'll take care of their games. Hmm...

More Speculation!!

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After further thought. I could actually see this happening.

Modifié par Yuqi, 25 mars 2012 - 04:52 .


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Opsrbest wrote...

Janus382 wrote...

I don't buy it, and I'm assuming most people in these 13 pages don't either.

But dearest BioWare, if you're listening anyway...
1) Good potential
2) Good potential, but man, that's depressing.
3) Stupid. Stupid stupid stupid stupid. No.

EDIT: Ahhh... didn't realize this was all 1 proposal, thought it was 3 or 4 separate ones.
Would have to know more but... from this... I'm intrigued.

It really is interesting.


Indeed it is, but it carries on with the whole illogical ending of ME3, they're selling us space-magic and telling us it's science.

species.zero wrote...

I hate it when sci-fi franchises get weird as they progress chronologically (example: Ender's Game. You don't have to agree with my opinion, but I felt like the series got weird with the 3rd and 4th books).

Fortunately, this did come from 4chan, which means that the odds are pretty good that it's fake.


You're not giving enough credence to how real this could actually be.

MetalCargo999 wrote...

How can anyone be happy with this continuation of the story since it's an extension of the illogical ME 3 ending?!

I really wish I'd never picked up a used Mass Effect game all those years ago....


I feel your pain.

Xion66 wrote...

krogstor wrote...

snip

Exactly, I think we're looking at the future of the ME franchise and people just don't want to admit it. Goodbye intriguing gameplay, hello madden/call of duty "new-release-every-year-with-updated-rosters-and-maps" type marketing.



I'm guesssing ME is going down the Star Wars way, too much spin off, crap clogging the universe and turning itself into an hobby on it's own.

And that makes me sad, I liked ME as a self-contained franchise, it was supposed to be a trilogy but now I can see Mass Effect: Expanded Universe Revelations Episode 4 Chapter IV the tie-in to the cartoon.


Sad, ain't it?

PeterG1 wrote...

krogstor wrote...

Exactly, I think we're looking at the future of the ME franchise and people just don't want to admit it. Goodbye intriguing gameplay, hello madden/call of duty "new-release-every-year-with-updated-rosters-and-maps" type marketing.


Wow I didn't really connect those dots. If you're right, than this means EA is molding and pushing the ME franchise into their typical assembly-line style titles. Completely formulaic and generic.

I'm hopeful that the future ME titles will still be "owned" creatively by BioWare and they'll take care of their games. Hmm...

More Speculation!!


Yeah, I mean think about it, EA is notorious for assembly-line style gaming, and they try to have the widest audience, this can only be done by absorbing popular titles into it's roster.

Modifié par krogstor, 25 mars 2012 - 04:52 .


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MetalCargo999 wrote...

How can anyone be happy with this continuation of the story since it's an extension of the illogical ME 3 ending?!

I really wish I'd never picked up a used Mass Effect game all those years ago....


You have a point.  But we had assumed that the ending we had was THE ending to the whole shebang. (which, if it's not, is possibly another reason for "backlash".)

But if they actually build off of it.... true, the technical ending to the trilogy, and to ME3, will be pure stinking poo, but in the grand scheme it will be nothing but a footnote.

... Doesn't make it any less infuriating, however.

Modifié par Janus382, 25 mars 2012 - 04:52 .


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Dosent all the marriage branch conflict with conflict 3? And dosent the destroy ending conflict with conflict 3 & 4?

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Does anybody else think of Sephiroth, with this?

Modifié par Yuqi, 25 mars 2012 - 04:53 .


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I’ve read all that about 7 times now, it doesn't make me feel hopeful about the future of Mass Effect, and at a stretch Bioware, mainly because it’s so bleak.

If this is a new game, at best it sounds like it would come off like KOTOR 2. An okay game, but just doesn't feel right/disappointing( I’m aware Bioware didn’t make Kotor 2)

I also just don't understand why the ending to Mass Effect 3 has to be so unbelievable bleak. I’m not a writer but as an undergrad I studied English literature and while I recognise sometimes epics have to end in Tragedy, for me mass effect used to be all about choice. If you play the game well, you should be able to come out with a Return Of The Jedi type ending minus the blinking ewoks.

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Janus382 wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

How can anyone be happy with this continuation of the story since it's an extension of the illogical ME 3 ending?!

I really wish I'd never picked up a used Mass Effect game all those years ago....


You have a point.  But we had assumed that the ending we had was THE ending to the whole shebang. (which, if it's not, is possibly another reason for "backlash".)

But if they actually build off of it.... true, the technical ending to the trilogy, and to ME3, will be pure stinking poo, but in the grand scheme it will be nothing but a footnote.

... Doesn't make it any less infuriating, however.


Why don't they just make a GOOD ending to the Mass Effect trilogy, THEN fast forward 600 years to the future WITHOUT having to continue Shepard's story or explore his legacy?  Isn't that win win for everyone?

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solidsnake78 wrote...

Dosent all the marriage branch conflict with conflict 3? And dosent the destroy ending conflict with conflict 3 & 4?


All the marriage branch stuff is under CC1-3 (ME1-3 and subsequent DLC) And yes, but they didn't want you to choose the destroy ending, remember? It's a renegade option.

MetalCargo999 wrote...

Janus382 wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

How can anyone be happy with this continuation of the story since it's an extension of the illogical ME 3 ending?!

I really wish I'd never picked up a used Mass Effect game all those years ago....


You have a point.  But we had assumed that the ending we had was THE ending to the whole shebang. (which, if it's not, is possibly another reason for "backlash".)

But if they actually build off of it.... true, the technical ending to the trilogy, and to ME3, will be pure stinking poo, but in the grand scheme it will be nothing but a footnote.

... Doesn't make it any less infuriating, however.


Why don't they just make a GOOD ending to the Mass Effect trilogy, THEN fast forward 600 years to the future WITHOUT having to continue Shepard's story or explore his legacy?  Isn't that win win for everyone?


Yeah, but how does that method justify their ending?  :P

Modifié par krogstor, 25 mars 2012 - 05:00 .


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Know how you can spot this as a fake? Not just because of the obvious reasons, but the fact that bioware said any subsequent game in the mass effect series will have to take place before the ending of 3. Case closed.

-Polite

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PoliteAssasin wrote...

Know how you can spot this as a fake? Not just because of the obvious reasons, but the fact that bioware said any subsequent game in the mass effect series will have to take place before the ending of 3. Case closed.

-Polite


Cite sources.

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PoliteAssasin wrote...

Know how you can spot this as a fake? Not just because of the obvious reasons, but the fact that bioware said any subsequent game in the mass effect series will have to take place before the ending of 3. Case closed.

-Polite


They also said ME 3 would enable the team to come up with unrestricted creative endings since they weren't forced to fit it into another game.  Then they gave us Starchild.

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Lanceare wrote...

IF this is real, it seems to be early notes for at least two different things: DLC and a future game, or DLC and multiple future games, or DLC, an expansion, and a future game.

One of these obviously occurs during or soon after the events of ME3.

One or more obviously occur something like 500 years in the future.

They are taking into account the 'Control' and 'Destroy' endings of ME3. With the 'Control' ending Shepard, as we know him, is gone but we have some fusion of the Catalyst AI and Shepard.

With the 'Destroy' ending Shepard is still alive but really messed up due to his cybernetic implants being destroyed so there is a quest to find tech to restore him.

Of course whoever is making these notes also references that the Dx (director) doesn't want to drag out the character of Shepard so who knows if any of these musings would come to fruition.

In the 'Destroy' ending Joker is also changed from EDI dying.

We have a war in the SOL system, Turians and humans integrating, races trying to make the long trek home.

It doesn't fix the issues with ME3 and it's ending, but there are some cool things here. It also hints that in some future release that takes place waaaaay in the future other galaxies might be explored.

Or this could all just be fake.



 

Bioware is seriously missing the point. As
you said, if its real it imply a war with all the species left in the sol
system. So basically everything you did right in ME 3 was for nothing. As it
stands with the current ending everything we did in ME 3 is for nothing, these
new endings are just rubbing salt in the wound.

Please BIOWARE LISTEN!

Modifié par eoinnx03, 25 mars 2012 - 05:04 .


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PoliteAssasin wrote...

Know how you can spot this as a fake? Not just because of the obvious reasons, but the fact that bioware said any subsequent game in the mass effect series will have to take place before the ending of 3. Case closed.

-Polite


I don't mean to be impolite, but BioWare has said a lot of things, that no longer hold any weight.  Case Open.

But yes, I think it's fake as well.

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The marrige branch could work with the Destroy ending. At first they are happy, but over time the caytalist takes more and more contro.l (Through the implants.) One day with what little remains of Shepard's identity he/she decides it's best if they just dissapear. Shepard still becomes a part of Seph-err I mean Advent.

If it's legit, the entire thing is Ingenious.

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