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[Archereon]

I'm actually inclined to believe this ever so slightly, seeing as BioWare would be copying Deus Ex even more (Shepard merging with the Catalyst would basically be a complete copy of Deus Ex Invisible war's plot.)

[daedalusx]

It seems like feasible drawing board status plans to me. All of that could be modified and perfected to work in the long run. It also follows my belief that they made the ending the way they did and refuse to fundamentally change it because it is essentially the springboard for the next installment.

They have said that (paraphrase) "This is not the end of Mass Effect" or something along those lines implying that there will be DLC or another installment in the Mass Effect universe (not Shepard's story) or both. Probably both. This series has gotten too big to just be killed off like that and the giant "reset button" (crucible) plot device makes it a lot easier to start a new series in the universe. In the end, I personally did not like the ending.

The ending took too much choice away and reduced the entire series to a giant metaphorical funnel with significant room for moving around and choosing your path in the beginning, only to have you exit through the predetermined choke point. That being said, I have come to terms with the ending (mostly through the use of my imagination) and will accept the gift of "clarification" for what it ultimately will be.

I do not believe I will be pre-ordering anything in the foreseeable future, but, given Bioware's past performance and probable lessons learned from this fiasco, will most likely end up buying whatever Mass Effect universe game they do come up with. The Mass Effect universe itself is just too good for me not to.

Now that I'm at the end of this, I realize this post was more about me coming to terms with it and putting my thoughts down. Maybe it will help someone else too.

[krogstor]

Yuqi wrote...


The marrige branch could work with the Destroy ending. At first they are happy, but over time the caytalist takes more and more contro.l (Through the implants.) One day with what little remains of Shepard's identity he/she decides it's best if they just dissapear. Shepard still becomes a part of Seph-err I mean Advent.

If it's legit, the entire thing is Ingenious.

Yeah, but if you're one of the people who hated the starchild ending, you probably won't like this if it happens.

[Encarmine]

MetalCargo999 wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Know how you can spot this as a fake? Not just because of the obvious reasons, but the fact that bioware said any subsequent game in the mass effect series will have to take place before the ending of 3. Case closed.

-Polite

They also said ME 3 would enable the team to come up with unrestricted creative endings since they weren't forced to fit it into another game.  Then they gave us Starchild.

Errrr Can i please see your source for claiming Bioware stated all games set in Mass Effect world will be pre Sheperd??????????????????????

People making idiot statments like that grate me

[eoinnx03]

eoinnx03 wrote...

Lanceare wrote...

IF this is real, it seems to be early notes for at least two different things: DLC and a future game, or DLC and multiple future games, or DLC, an expansion, and a future game.

One of these obviously occurs during or soon after the events of ME3.

One or more obviously occur something like 500 years in the future.

They are taking into account the 'Control' and 'Destroy' endings of ME3. With the 'Control' ending Shepard, as we know him, is gone but we have some fusion of the Catalyst AI and Shepard.

With the 'Destroy' ending Shepard is still alive but really messed up due to his cybernetic implants being destroyed so there is a quest to find tech to restore him.

Of course whoever is making these notes also references that the Dx (director) doesn't want to drag out the character of Shepard so who knows if any of these musings would come to fruition.

In the 'Destroy' ending Joker is also changed from EDI dying.

We have a war in the SOL system, Turians and humans integrating, races trying to make the long trek home.

It doesn't fix the issues with ME3 and it's ending, but there are some cool things here. It also hints that in some future release that takes place waaaaay in the future other galaxies might be explored.

Or this could all just be fake.

 

Bioware is seriously missing the point. As
you said, if its real it imply a war with all the species left in the sol
system. So basically everything you did right in ME 3 was for nothing. As it
stands with the current ending everything we did in ME 3 if for nothing, these
new endings are just rubbing salt in the wound.

Please BIOWARE LISTEN!

It also makes complete sense for
Bioware to tack all this new stuff onto ''their'' endings. They don't want to
look bad or loose integrity so instead if they tach on more stuff to make the current
endings easier to stomach, they may come out okay.

This has to be what they are
doing. It won't work obviously as its ignoring the main problems that the fans
have raised.

 

Yup…. ‘WE ARE LISTENING’

Modifié par eoinnx03, 25 mars 2012 - 05:05 .

[Five1thOUsanD]

krogstor wrote...

Five1thOUsanD wrote...

This seems like a terrible idea to me, they should just change the endings.
Also, shouldn't EDI be dead if Shepard is alive and vice versa?
Why is there a new Shadow Broker if Liara is still alive?

Maybe Liara gave up the position to an ally or friend. As far as EDI or Shepard being dead, OP made it clear in the first post that they were assimilated + the starchild into a character called "The Advent".

I guess my point about EDI and Shepard was more about this:

Conflict 4) Advent seeks to halt advancement of synthetics across the galaxy.
The character experiences a "dissociative identity disorder" related to
integration with Shepard's and EDI's synthetics

Did it repair destroyed parts from them and then integrate them into itself?
How would this even work with Shepard being mostly organic?

Also why would it need to halt the advancement of synthetics if all synthetics were already destroyed? Unless new synthetics were created...


I'm pretty sure that I'm only picking holes in this thing because I really dislike the idea and think they should just scrap the current ME3 ending (singular) and make something else.

[Risselda]

Iunno....was kind of hoping for a clear and definitive END to shep's story. This has great potential to end it, but I am scared they will use it to drag it out

[OchreJelly]

Read over this again... honestly, let Shepard retire. [S]he's earned it. Don't turn them into a possible villain or something other than what they are already, unless they can be saved in short order.

Even inside of the ME universe the ideas might be vaguely interesting but they screw around with characters too much especially if Shep isn't around to interact. And I agree with the comment about Ender's Game and despite how I liked it, it got progressively odder as it went on; this is not what Mass Effect needs.

Nobody with emotional investments in the cast wants to see them in peril again without being able to help them as your established Shepar-avatar. Nevermind having potential LIs running off getting married or whatnot while you're a glorified husk.

And future characters being volus, hanar and elcor? They're great side-races, but as main characters I just don't know. And of course, there's Liara taking a prominent role again. *sigh*

Really hope this is fake. :<

Modifié par OchreJelly, 25 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

[Lugaidster]

God no! I hope this is false. Terrible terrible terrible.

[Lugaidster]

This seems like some kind of contrived plot out of the mind of some JRPG writter. I hope it's fake.

[Necrotron]

Real or not, post ending DLC is exciting.

[krogstor]

Five1thOUsanD wrote...

krogstor wrote...

Five1thOUsanD wrote...

This seems like a terrible idea to me, they should just change the endings.
Also, shouldn't EDI be dead if Shepard is alive and vice versa?
Why is there a new Shadow Broker if Liara is still alive?

Maybe Liara gave up the position to an ally or friend. As far as EDI or Shepard being dead, OP made it clear in the first post that they were assimilated + the starchild into a character called "The Advent".

I guess my point about EDI and Shepard was more about this:

Conflict 4) Advent seeks to halt advancement of synthetics across the galaxy.
The character experiences a "dissociative identity disorder" related to
integration with Shepard's and EDI's synthetics

Did it repair destroyed parts from them and then integrate them into itself?
How would this even work with Shepard being mostly organic?

Also why would it need to halt the advancement of synthetics if all synthetics were already destroyed? Unless new synthetics were created...


I'm pretty sure that I'm only picking holes in this thing because I really dislike the idea and think they should just scrap the current ME3 ending (singular) and make something else.

I feel your pain, but honestly, Shepard was very synthetic by the time TIM  and project lazarus were finished. Look at the technology he ended up with, it's safe to assume much of it made its way into Shepard.

[Xion66]

Lugaidster wrote...

This seems like some kind of contrived plot out of the mind of some JRPG writter. I hope it's fake.

I could say the same thing about ME3's endings. I felt like I was playing a cliche'd Final Fantasy

[Jaron Oberyn]

@Encarmine - You certainly have a way with people don't you. Where did I say it was going to be pre Shepard? They said it would take place before the end of ME3. You're calling me an idiot but who is the one who's making assumptions from something that isn't even there? Since you are so enlightened and I'm such an idiot, I'm gonna let you find that interview on your own.

-Polite

[krogstor]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

@Encarmine - You certainly have a way with people don't you. Where did I say it was going to be pre Shepard? They said it would take place before the end of ME3. You're calling me an idiot but who is the one who's making assumptions from something that isn't even there? Since you are so enlightened and I'm such an idiot, I'm gonna let you find that interview on your own.

-Polite

Cite sources.

-Polite.

[PeterG1]

daedalusx wrote...

Now that I'm at the end of this, I realize this post was more about me coming to terms with it and putting my thoughts down. Maybe it will help someone else too.

Absolutely, Friend. I've been thinking the same thing and often myself too writing long prose to come to reason with ME3, the ME canon, and potential future games. 

Again, we're all basing our stuff in this thread off of a supposed leaked development email (but one that, to me, is compelling at the very least) but it's' absolutely gotten me thinking that it makes sense.

OchreJelly wrote...

Nobody with emotional investments in the cast wants to see them in peril again without being able to help them as your established Shepar-avatar. Nevermind having potential LIs running off getting married or whatnot while you're a glorified husk.

And future characters being volus, hanar and elcor? They're great side-races, but as main characters I just don't know. And of course, there's Liara taking a prominent role again. *sigh*

. :<

 

Yep I'm getting the same feeling, thinking the same thing.

Modifié par PeterG1, 25 mars 2012 - 05:12 .

[Five1thOUsanD]

krogstor wrote...

I feel your pain, but honestly, Shepard was very synthetic by the time TIM  and project lazarus were finished. Look at the technology he ended up with, it's safe to assume much of it made its way into Shepard.

Actually, one of the first times you talk to EDI she says something along the lines of:
"You have synthetic parts but your brain function is still completely organic"

[aliengmr1]

Encarmine wrote...

MetalCargo999 wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Know how you can spot this as a fake? Not just because of the obvious reasons, but the fact that bioware said any subsequent game in the mass effect series will have to take place before the ending of 3. Case closed.

-Polite

They also said ME 3 would enable the team to come up with unrestricted creative endings since they weren't forced to fit it into another game.  Then they gave us Starchild.

Errrr Can i please see your source for claiming Bioware stated all games set in Mass Effect world will be pre Sheperd??????????????????????


People making idiot statments like that grate me

I forget the exact source for it, but It was in one of the post release
PR things. Sorry, I know its not what you asked for, I am 100% sure this
was said. It was kind of a low point for the "retake" thing if I
remember correctly.

Just confirming that read this as well.

Modifié par aliengmr1, 25 mars 2012 - 05:12 .

[krogstor]

Five1thOUsanD wrote...

krogstor wrote...

I feel your pain, but honestly, Shepard was very synthetic by the time TIM  and project lazarus were finished. Look at the technology he ended up with, it's safe to assume much of it made its way into Shepard.

Actually, one of the first times you talk to EDI she says something along the lines of:
"You have synthetic parts but your brain function is still completely organic"

I won't commit to that without seeing a video of it, I don't recall it but I could be wrong. In any case, there are many ways to affect the brain, and he has other synthetic parts responsible for many movements of his motor functions.

[Yuqi]

krogstor wrote...

Yuqi wrote...


The marrige branch could work with the Destroy ending. At first they are happy, but over time the caytalist takes more and more contro.l (Through the implants.) One day with what little remains of Shepard's identity he/she decides it's best if they just dissapear. Shepard still becomes a part of Seph-err I mean Advent.

If it's legit, the entire thing is Ingenious.

Yeah, but if you're one of the people who hated the starchild ending, you probably won't like this if it happens.

True and I'm sure there will be a shi*storm about it, if it's legit.  But you have to admit with more orginization,clean-up, and clarification it could work.(Really well IMO)

[eoinnx03]

Bioware is seriously missing the point. If its real it means there is a war with all the species left in the sol system.
So basically everything you did right in ME 3 was for nothing. Making peace with the turians and Krogan, Quariens and Geth, was pointless, as they all kill each other or die anyway. Mordin and Legion died for nothing (and I was happy with their deaths before the current endings as they died for a just cause)
As it stands the current ending(s) imply that everything we did in ME 3 was for nothing, these
new endings are just rubbing salt in the wound.

Please BIOWARE LISTEN!

Modifié par eoinnx03, 25 mars 2012 - 05:11 .

[Archereon]

Xion66 wrote...

Lugaidster wrote...

This seems like some kind of contrived plot out of the mind of some JRPG writter. I hope it's fake.

I could say the same thing about ME3's endings. I felt like I was playing a cliche'd Final Fantasy

That's being to kind to Mass EFfect.

Most JRPGs at least are internally consistent; really freaking weird from beginning to end that is.

[Fl1xx]

Eh, not to fond of that. Unless I, you know, get to bring back my true identity, that's not going to go over well.

[tekkaman fear]

More I think on this the more it sounds like the story of Revan in many respects.

[Reciever80]

what's the GSW?