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(Priestly: Rumors are fake) Possible leak of April 24th DLC and next game? Either this, or an elaborate fake
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#452
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:54
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Nostradamoose wrote...
It's tolerable, except for that disconnected Reaper part (which sounds like Bull****)Provo_101 wrote...
Nostradamoose wrote...
It's actually quite...
Good...
I like this
You like the concept of "Advent"?
And Pippo the friendly Reaper?
But Advent, as a concept, it could be good if well developped.
just saying
If Shepard and Advent have a sort of Tug of War over who takes full control throughout the end, kind of going back and forth throughout the game, with Shep coming out on top at the end, I suppose I would be alright with it. It would also make for an interesting twist on morality and choices.
Gimme a Dead Space 2 final battle where i punt that Startoddler off a cliff in my own mind.
#453
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:55
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Provo_101 wrote...
Nostradamoose wrote...
It's tolerable, except for that disconnected Reaper part (which sounds like Bull****)Provo_101 wrote...
Nostradamoose wrote...
It's actually quite...
Good...
I like this
You like the concept of "Advent"?
And Pippo the friendly Reaper?
But Advent, as a concept, it could be good if well developped.
just saying
If Shepard and Advent have a sort of Tug of War over who takes full control throughout the end, kind of going back and forth throughout the game, with Shep coming out on top at the end, I suppose I would be alright with it. It would also make for an interesting twist on morality and choices.
Gimme a Dead Space 2 final battle where i punt that Startoddler off a cliff in my own mind.
That would make me buy the game. Or DLC.
#454
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:57
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MetalCargo999 wrote...
Provo_101 wrote...
Nostradamoose wrote...
It's tolerable, except for that disconnected Reaper part (which sounds like Bull****)Provo_101 wrote...
Nostradamoose wrote...
It's actually quite...
Good...
I like this
You like the concept of "Advent"?
And Pippo the friendly Reaper?
But Advent, as a concept, it could be good if well developped.
just saying
If Shepard and Advent have a sort of Tug of War over who takes full control throughout the end, kind of going back and forth throughout the game, with Shep coming out on top at the end, I suppose I would be alright with it. It would also make for an interesting twist on morality and choices.
Gimme a Dead Space 2 final battle where i punt that Startoddler off a cliff in my own mind.
That would make me buy the game. Or DLC.
Well, it's a sign that maybe bioware's writing staff's still got some of their touch.
(of course... only if it's true)
#455
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:57
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Im sorry, but if this is true, i have absolutely no interest in playing it. I hate the catalyst, and the thought that the sequel will have that abomination controlling Shepards corpse is appalling.
#456
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:59
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Avarenda wrote...
Im sorry, but if this is true, i have absolutely no interest in playing it. I hate the catalyst, and the thought that the sequel will have that abomination controlling Shepards corpse is appalling.
Yea, but imagine the end boss fight where Shepard kills Starchild! SOOOO gratifying!
#457
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:59
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Wow. Even if it's not true those are some really fascinating ideas. In fact, I think I like everything about that. One can hope.
#458
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:59
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But seriously, it might be that we are not controlling Shepard and actually fight Advent...
I like that
I like that
#459
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:01
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Seems unlikely to me, but given bioware's record on responding to leaks, if it were true it ain't gonna be anymore...
#460
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:01
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Wait hold on... I thought Bioware said they were listening to our ideas and taking them into consideration? If this leak is true, i'd like to know just WHEN it was they started to listen? I don't see ANY of our ideas in there!
[EDIT] Granted, I am pretty sure this is fake.
[EDIT] Granted, I am pretty sure this is fake.
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#461
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:02
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Nostradamoose wrote...
But seriously, it might be that we are not controlling Shepard and actually fight Advent...
I like that
I have to agree with this. Fighting against Shepard who has become Advent would be more epic than Marauder Shields.
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#463
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:03
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So, Murmur is a magic reaper who defected and somehow evaded destruction/control...
This is interesting but the idea I'm 90% sure if a fake. They're moving things around for the ending now so it's evident they don't have an established canon for ME3 yet. The elcor, hannar and volus squadmates seem REALLY gratuitous even for Bioware's current standards. After all the DLC for ME3 is done, I think we'll get a better idea. However, the ending here is a major roadblock here as there's no canon yet.
Still, it's possible. It feels rather unlikely though
This is interesting but the idea I'm 90% sure if a fake. They're moving things around for the ending now so it's evident they don't have an established canon for ME3 yet. The elcor, hannar and volus squadmates seem REALLY gratuitous even for Bioware's current standards. After all the DLC for ME3 is done, I think we'll get a better idea. However, the ending here is a major roadblock here as there's no canon yet.
Still, it's possible. It feels rather unlikely though
#464
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:03
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Hsien wrote...
Defintely looks fake
On what precedence does it look fake? It looks legitimate if you ask me. Some of the context is questionable, but a biotic mini elcor is awesome.
ibage wrote...
So, Murmur is a magic reaper who defected and somehow evaded destruction/control...
This
is interesting but the idea I'm 90% sure if a fake. They're moving
things around for the ending now so it's evident they don't have an
established canon for ME3 yet. The elcor, hannar and volus squadmates
seem REALLY gratuitous even for Bioware's current standards. After all
the DLC for ME3 is done, I think we'll get a better idea. However, the
ending here is a major roadblock here as there's no canon yet.
Still, it's possible. It feels rather unlikely though
The Crucible was only shown to destroy the relays INSIDE the galaxy, we have no idea what affected them out in deep space. Capital ships (sovereign class reapers) are indeed designed to make their own decisions. And how do you know there is no canon yet? Maybe it's just not out in public, or maybe this IS it.
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#465
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:05
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It's fake defend it all you want but it's hardly the first time 4chan's ever come up with something like this.
#466
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:06
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Why would an Ashley/Kaiden suicide plot device be saved for "Shift" if it's going to be taking place in a far flung future where Liara is a Matriarch and Wrex has a grandchild? That part doesn't really make sense.
#467
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:06
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What happened to the end of Shepards story? Come on, the writers have milked him for all he's worth. If were talking ME4 we need to see new lead charecters. Let us start from scratch. Besides, i don't see how any of this takes into account your choice from the ending, especially if you chose Destroy.
#468
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:08
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redcarpet26 wrote...
What happened to the end of Shepards story? Come on, the writers have milked him for all he's worth. If were talking ME4 we need to see new lead charecters. Let us start from scratch. Besides, i don't see how any of this takes into account your choice from the ending, especially if you chose Destroy.
Mass effect 2 gave you the option to destroy the collector base. Mass effect 3 assumes that the collector base wasn't destroyed unless you import a character.
#470
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:08
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unless i missed it theres no link to the soruce
must be a fan fic
must be a fan fic
#471
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:08
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Let's see, further considerations:
The catalyst is what is left over from the original Synthetic race that almost wiped out all organic life in the galaxy. The last organics played the role of the first "reaper" that perpetuates the cycle in order to prevent the catalyst from ever being capable of escaping the Citadel Prison. The keepers are organic because they must maintain the center of the Citadel, and had they been synthetic, the Catalyst may have been able to take advantage of them to escape.
The reason the reapers create new reapers is because organic races evolve to adapt to the cycle. Each cycle is more costly to the reapers than the last. Evidenced by the mass cannon and derelict reapers spread about. Creating new reapers allows them to harvest the knowledge of the races and adjust their tactics.
This explains why the Catalyst was unable to open the relay for the reapers in ME1. It is not in control, it is detained.
Further consideration leads me to believe that ME3 plays the role of the "Fools Victory". Shepard is so desperate to defeat the reapers, so fatigued, he gives into the Catalyst's plan to destroy the reapers. What isn't told to us is that the crucible plans were originally created by the Catalyst as a means of trying to "arm" the organic races in a manner consistent with helping him escape. By using the citadel as the power source it forces them to come to the citadel and meet with him in order to destroy the reapers.
The firing of the cruicible DOES stop the reapers. However, the destruction of the mass relays is REQUIRED in order to free him from his citadel prison. Hence why they are so ungodly hard to destroy. They act as a relay network but also as complex system of locks. Only by destroying them all simultaneously can the Catalyst escape. An unintended side effect of the blast is the destruction of the Citadel itself. Because of this the catalyst must upload himself to the only synthetic avaliable at the time, that being Shepard himself. The extensive damage makes it impossible for the catalyst to immediately gain control over Shepards body. It goes into stasis mode in order to leave enough power in the synthetic components to maintain Shepards life. He dies, it dies.
Once Shepards body is repaired it remains in stasis without knowing this, allowing Shepard to live at least part of his life without the interference of the Catalyst. After a predetermined amount of time the Catalyst re-activates and begins to move Shepard towards his goal.
The catalyst is what is left over from the original Synthetic race that almost wiped out all organic life in the galaxy. The last organics played the role of the first "reaper" that perpetuates the cycle in order to prevent the catalyst from ever being capable of escaping the Citadel Prison. The keepers are organic because they must maintain the center of the Citadel, and had they been synthetic, the Catalyst may have been able to take advantage of them to escape.
The reason the reapers create new reapers is because organic races evolve to adapt to the cycle. Each cycle is more costly to the reapers than the last. Evidenced by the mass cannon and derelict reapers spread about. Creating new reapers allows them to harvest the knowledge of the races and adjust their tactics.
This explains why the Catalyst was unable to open the relay for the reapers in ME1. It is not in control, it is detained.
Further consideration leads me to believe that ME3 plays the role of the "Fools Victory". Shepard is so desperate to defeat the reapers, so fatigued, he gives into the Catalyst's plan to destroy the reapers. What isn't told to us is that the crucible plans were originally created by the Catalyst as a means of trying to "arm" the organic races in a manner consistent with helping him escape. By using the citadel as the power source it forces them to come to the citadel and meet with him in order to destroy the reapers.
The firing of the cruicible DOES stop the reapers. However, the destruction of the mass relays is REQUIRED in order to free him from his citadel prison. Hence why they are so ungodly hard to destroy. They act as a relay network but also as complex system of locks. Only by destroying them all simultaneously can the Catalyst escape. An unintended side effect of the blast is the destruction of the Citadel itself. Because of this the catalyst must upload himself to the only synthetic avaliable at the time, that being Shepard himself. The extensive damage makes it impossible for the catalyst to immediately gain control over Shepards body. It goes into stasis mode in order to leave enough power in the synthetic components to maintain Shepards life. He dies, it dies.
Once Shepards body is repaired it remains in stasis without knowing this, allowing Shepard to live at least part of his life without the interference of the Catalyst. After a predetermined amount of time the Catalyst re-activates and begins to move Shepard towards his goal.
#472
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:09
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mass shift?
well -f and thats what the end of me3 is
well -f and thats what the end of me3 is
#473
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:10
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Theory: Star-Infant and Shepard fight over Shepard's mind over the course of "Mass Shift", each fighting for and representing different values and goals. With each personality "shifting" back and forth throughout the game, Star-Toddler being a much darker version of Renegade and Shepard being Paragon/Renegade (yet to a less dark extent as Star-Kid, as he still embodies Heroism). This forces the player to keep track of both morality sets, both Shep and Star-Midget. In the end, the side that is stronger in it's beliefs wins, in an epic battle in Shepard's mind.
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#474
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:10
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Menethra wrote...
It's fake defend it all you want but it's hardly the first time 4chan's ever come up with something like this.
It's also not the first time BioWare has intentionally "leaked" their "plan" on 4chan. Yeah, I went there: Would it shock you, in this day of viral marketing, if BioWare's writers were to run their ideas through their fans like this to see what sticks and what doesn't? It's the only way to explain how massive leaks like this keep happening. BioWare is doing it intentionally to gauge their fans' reactions.
What we're reading here is NOT their plan. It's their proposal, and they'll keep what we respond well to.
....... so yes, BioWare, I do want a mini biotic elcor party member. FUND IT!
#475
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:12
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krogstor wrote...
Hsien wrote...
Defintely looks fake
On what precedence does it look fake? It looks legitimate if you ask me. Some of the context is questionable, but a biotic mini elcor is awesome.ibage wrote...
So, Murmur is a magic reaper who defected and somehow evaded destruction/control...
This
is interesting but the idea I'm 90% sure if a fake. They're moving
things around for the ending now so it's evident they don't have an
established canon for ME3 yet. The elcor, hannar and volus squadmates
seem REALLY gratuitous even for Bioware's current standards. After all
the DLC for ME3 is done, I think we'll get a better idea. However, the
ending here is a major roadblock here as there's no canon yet.
Still, it's possible. It feels rather unlikely though
The Crucible was only shown to destroy the relays INSIDE the galaxy, we have no idea what affected them out in deep space. Capital ships (sovereign class reapers) are indeed designed to make their own decisions. And how do you know there is no canon yet? Maybe it's just not out in public, or maybe this IS it.
They're still modifying things. I don't think they're that together yet. Even still, why would there be Mass Relays outside of the galaxy? Even for Reapers, extragalactic travel would be near impossible. There's nothing in the current series that suggests the reapers are present in other galaxies. Not to mention how much they stressed that while the ME universe will exists beyond the trilogy, Shepard's story would be complete with the conclusion of 3.
Still, I guess they could pull out the deus ex space magic again.
