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[krogstor]

yoshibb wrote...

Malevolence65 wrote...

Kaidan/Ashley - Consideration: Introduction of eventual suicide plot
device? DX Note: No, not in DLC, save for Shift
BRANCH - Ask Dx

Ok, what the ****?

Could happen at the very beginning of "Shift", as part of the prologue. And I wouldn't doubt seeing A/K trying suicide.

[The_Crazy_Hand]

Even if it's true, it is certainly no better than what we currently have. I mean, they even have "backlash" listed as a consideration.

[Anthropophobic]

It would be pretty convenient for them. Any game where the VS makes an appearance, they have to design and record dialogue for two separate (and not really popular) characters.

(Not that I want it to happen, js)

[yoshibb]

Anthropophobic wrote...

It would be pretty convenient for them. Any game where the VS makes an appearance, they have to design and record dialogue for two separate (and not really popular) characters.

(Not that I want it to happen, js)

Then give them a small role, don't have them commit suicide. When have either of these characters shown suicidal tendencies? That is just insulting and it makes me sick to even think about.

[WizenSlinky0]

yoshibb wrote...

Anthropophobic wrote...

It would be pretty convenient for them. Any game where the VS makes an appearance, they have to design and record dialogue for two separate (and not really popular) characters.

(Not that I want it to happen, js)

Then give them a small role, don't have them commit suicide. When have either of these characters shown suicidal tendencies? That is just insulting and it makes me sick to even think about.

Survivors guilt that was delayed by the reaper invasion. Once the threat is over I'm sure Virmire will haunt both of them.

[csmokey]

ediskrad327 wrote...

this is madness!

This is Sparta!!!!!!
oh this sounds fake

[krogstor]

Unrelated note.

[Fault Girl]

yoshibb wrote...

Anthropophobic wrote...

It would be pretty convenient for them. Any game where the VS makes an appearance, they have to design and record dialogue for two separate (and not really popular) characters.

(Not that I want it to happen, js)

Then give them a small role, don't have them commit suicide. When have either of these characters shown suicidal tendencies? That is just insulting and it makes me sick to even think about.

When I saw that I was like but then the rest made me doubt this info very much.

I would take it as a very big grain of salt for now.

Modifié par Vault N7, 25 mars 2012 - 07:23 .

[RiouHotaru]

It's interesting, for sure, especially the part about restoring Shepard or Shepard being resurrected.

But I get the feeling the "Advent" part only applies to Control or Synthesis endings, whereas the "Shepard is broken" thing applies to Destroy.

[LittleEpicness]

If this is true, then it's even worse than the ending.

[lucidfox]

I'd say that this is, sadly, outrageous enough to actually seem like a BioWare leak. No self-respecting fan would write this.

If it's true, it just shows how out of touch with its fanbase BioWare has become.

[SirDoctorofTARDIS]

DO NOT WANT!

[yoshibb]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

Anthropophobic wrote...

It would be pretty convenient for them. Any game where the VS makes an appearance, they have to design and record dialogue for two separate (and not really popular) characters.

(Not that I want it to happen, js)

Then give them a small role, don't have them commit suicide. When have either of these characters shown suicidal tendencies? That is just insulting and it makes me sick to even think about.

Survivors guilt that was delayed by the reaper invasion. Once the threat is over I'm sure Virmire will haunt both of them.

And you know that how? Kaidan and Ashley have never shown any signs of depression and they would know that taking their own life would negate the sacrifice the other made on Virmire. They know the costs of war. They wouldn't do that.

[Anthropophobic]

RiouHotaru wrote...

It's interesting, for sure, especially the part about restoring Shepard or Shepard being resurrected.

But I get the feeling the "Advent" part only applies to Control or Synthesis endings, whereas the "Shepard is broken" thing applies to Destroy.

I highly doubt it; if they had to account for all three choices, it would be near impossible for them to feasibly continue Shepard's story (or "Advent" now, I guess). I think this is all for the Destroy ending.

[WizenSlinky0]

yoshibb wrote...

And you know that how? Kaidan and Ashley have never shown any signs of depression and they would know that taking their own life would negate the sacrifice the other made on Virmire. They know the costs of war. They wouldn't do that.

Signs of suicide and depression aren't always visible. It's usually the ones who DON'T show signs of it that get away with actually doing it.

Neither you, nor I, could say for certain what they would or not do. We can only speculate. The only ones who have the knowledge necessary to decide that are the writers who have crafted them.

[AJanitor]

And to find the Shepherd pieces first you have to scan multiple planets for resources. Once you get enough resources, you have to land in the ME1 Mako and find them. Finally to retrieve his actually parts you have to play an extra long hacking mini game.

Perfect.

[RiouHotaru]

Anthropophobic wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

It's interesting, for sure, especially the part about restoring Shepard or Shepard being resurrected.

But I get the feeling the "Advent" part only applies to Control or Synthesis endings, whereas the "Shepard is broken" thing applies to Destroy.

I highly doubt it; if they had to account for all three choices, it would be near impossible for them to feasibly continue Shepard's story (or "Advent" now, I guess). I think this is all for the Destroy ending.

Also, upon closer examination this seems uber-fake.  Bioware stated outright that Mass Effect is the end of Shepard's story.  If this is a DLC wherein the Catalyst tries to reapply his cycle (Remember, Harbinger is supposedly the first Reaper, and now according to this, there's only one left) and Shepard has to force the Catalyst from his body, that's interesting.

But the fact it implies the Catalyst just hijacks the body and goes on to "stop the advancement of synthetics." is pure BS.  According to Destroy, all synthetics were...well, Destroyed.  It makes NO sense to imply the Catalyst was right.

[RiouHotaru]

Guys, this was leaked from 4chan of all places. 4chan. There's no evidence or source or any of this. I think that it's perfectly reasonable to suspect this is a forgery.

[Wabajakka]

Release date 2014...

No one plans DLC to be released 2 years from now. Fake.

Especially DLC for a problem that has created so much controversy.

Modifié par Orange Tee, 25 mars 2012 - 07:41 .

[Anthropophobic]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Anthropophobic wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

It's interesting, for sure, especially the part about restoring Shepard or Shepard being resurrected.

But I get the feeling the "Advent" part only applies to Control or Synthesis endings, whereas the "Shepard is broken" thing applies to Destroy.

I highly doubt it; if they had to account for all three choices, it would be near impossible for them to feasibly continue Shepard's story (or "Advent" now, I guess). I think this is all for the Destroy ending.

Also, upon closer examination this seems uber-fake.  Bioware stated outright that Mass Effect is the end of Shepard's story.  If this is a DLC wherein the Catalyst tries to reapply his cycle (Remember, Harbinger is supposedly the first Reaper, and now according to this, there's only one left) and Shepard has to force the Catalyst from his body, that's interesting.

But the fact it implies the Catalyst just hijacks the body and goes on to "stop the advancement of synthetics." is pure BS.  According to Destroy, all synthetics were...well, Destroyed.  It makes NO sense to imply the Catalyst was right.

Maybe by "advancement of synthetics," they mean the creation of more of them.

IIRC, Casey Hudson said ME3 wasn't the last we'd see of Shepard, so it wouldn't be the first time something they said during development turned out to be totally wrong. And, anyway, they have an excuse to bring Shepard back because the name is "Advent" now, apparently. It is pretty convenient now that they left in one ending where Shepard could survive.

Some leaks from 4chan have turned out to be legit. I heard 4chan leaked Arrival, but I'm not sure.

[FoxShadowblade]

I'd buy it. I'm weak willed, I KNOW!

[yoshibb]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

And you know that how? Kaidan and Ashley have never shown any signs of depression and they would know that taking their own life would negate the sacrifice the other made on Virmire. They know the costs of war. They wouldn't do that.

Signs of suicide and depression aren't always visible. It's usually the ones who DON'T show signs of it that get away with actually doing it.

Neither you, nor I, could say for certain what they would or not do. We can only speculate. The only ones who have the knowledge necessary to decide that are the writers who have crafted them.

They also tend to internalize things and not talk about it. Kaidan was pretty open about Ash's death in my game. He said that Shepard and him went through Ashley's death together. They've always been strong characters and I know in Kaidan's case, he's always been willing to talk about his feelings to Shepard, to share whenever something is bothering so it doesn't get to the point of depression. 

[kyg_20X6]

Didn't they that this was it but since we got so pissed they were gonna make some new content to address it. They asked for all our feedback. This doesn't seem like something recently created (or even altered). This looks like something they had planned. It would mean all their current talk has BS. Should we be happy with that?

This doesn't fill plotholes (creates more). Doesn't take into account our choices. And may/may not provide closure. Should we be happy about that?

[Xaijin]

LittleEpicness wrote...

If this is true, then it's even worse than the ending.

[mione]

If this was true then wouldn't someone from Bioware come and delete this topic?

I'm calling fake.