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[Dr_Hello]

I HAVE A GREAT IDEA:

In one of the outcomes leading into a new story branch, let Shepard be resurrected! Like Jesus did! No? Oh, I guess he was put back together already in ME2...

[krogstor]

SwobyJ wrote...

DarthKilby wrote...

The issue I have with this is that it talks about Liara in the Matrich stage of her life. It also talks about Vega, Kaiden/Ashley, and Joker. There is no way all these people are alive when Liara hits the Matriarch stage.

NO.

The first bunch of info would describe bridging DLC, etc.

The last part involves another game. (many years after)

I assume.

Correct

CC1-3 = Character Cast 1-3
CC4+ = Character Cast 4 +

[Dire Wombat]

Expect this is fake.

If it's real, I am ****ing done with this franchise, and probably Bioware. How do they not understand that the catalyst is one of the most hateful villains ever created? Trying to sell it as a benevolent all-knowing exposition provider is one of the key things that made ME3's ending so franchise-spoilingly bad. Making it a protagonist is utterly obscene.

[Rykoth]

Fake...

.... and if it was real, then shame on you for helping spread it. Many of you anti-ending people are the people who were talking about the original ME3 leaks that probably had some ending stuff cut out.

[MstrJedi Kyle]

krogstor wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

DarthKilby wrote...

The issue I have with this is that it talks about Liara in the Matrich stage of her life. It also talks about Vega, Kaiden/Ashley, and Joker. There is no way all these people are alive when Liara hits the Matriarch stage.

NO.

The first bunch of info would describe bridging DLC, etc.

The last part involves another game. (many years after)

I assume.

Correct

CC1-3 = Character Cast 1-3
CC4+ = Character Cast 4 +

Ok, I see it now. I retract my issue.

[Evil_medved]

Rykoth wrote...

Fake...

.... and if it was real, then shame on you for helping spread it. Many of you anti-ending people are the people who were talking about the original ME3 leaks that probably had some ending stuff cut out.

Original ending sucked as much ass as new did. And all this bull**** is way too stupid to be true.

[Ricky Alvarez]

How come you guys all think the Catalyst is "bad"?

ME as a series proved that Organics create and then attack Synthetics every single time. Look at the Quarians: The Geth weren't hostile at all, but the Quarians sought to wipe them out immediately. Similarly, if YOU in real life created a robot that could think just like you and was stronger/smarter than you, you'd probably try to kill it before things got out of hand.

Left to their own devices, organics would be completely wiped out by synthetics, which always become superior because of their artificial rate of evolution.

All the Catalyst did was STORE--not kill, but STORE/CONVERT--advanced organics, instead of letting them get slaughtered by synthetics. The Catalyst is the biggest good guy in the damn franchise.

What would your solution be? Exterminate organics completely? Because that was the only other option for the synthetics (Reapers).

[Kub666]

Rykoth wrote...

Fake...

.... and if it was real, then shame on you for helping spread it.

Well, once it's on the internet, then... it's known to everyone and that's it. Not fault of anyone here, and surely not fault of OP. But I agree that all these leaks ara damaging both to Bioware and to the ME franchise itself. I'm not happy that the alleged leak happened, but at least it contains interesting information.

[Raven4030-2]

I'm fine with this bit of speculation now that there has been an elaboration because at the end of the day, my biggest gripe with the ending wasn't the star child, wasn't with my choices being made irrelevant (because as far as I'm concerned, Shepard still has every decision weighing on his or her conscience until the end), it was the simple fact that it took the best sci-fi universe ever crafted and exploded it in your choice of red, green, or blue.

So long as I can reasonably imagine these various aliens and humans in this science-fiction world interacting with each other and getting up to epic adventures and wild shenanigans, they can screw with canon however they want* and I'll still be contented. Wary but contented.

*This is based on the fact that I don't expect them to so drastically alter canon that I cannot imagine what they came up with and the regular Mass Effect franchise existing in the same universe.

[Mandemon]

This smells so fake that I must wash my nose to clean it.

But, if it is true... **** Bioware

[Kanon777]

jess05 wrote...

Kub666 wrote...

Oh, and as a side note - the creators should never cater to their fanbase, and should always be a step ahead of the expectations. Music, movies, games - it's all similar. The moment you do some major work to "please the fans", you're done. So, although the original endings are terrible, I would still prefer Bioware to make some sense out of them instead of scrubbing them completely.

I disagree to an extent. They should be doing this FOR thier fanbase.

For example ... if the game had a bad ending BUT, that bad ending was somewhat explained, and fit with the lore of the universe the outrage would have never happened.
Sure, some would say .. WOW that sucked.   But that would be the extent of it.

I think the major issue, is that the way things are now it breaks previous games (ME1).
We have plot holes, and a few things that just do not fit or make sense.

The Catalyst, and the idea of the Crcucible are great examples.

Promising fans things that were not true only further angers them.


The entire idea of a series like this is to cater to your fans. Build your own story, your decisions matter, etc. as it was marketed.
ME3 goes against that principle entirely.

Doing things they way they choose is fine to a point, but I do think they should try to stay along the lines of what thier fans expect/want.  Because without the fans, they have no buisiness.

This is not true, many polls made on BSN show that ALOT of people want a happy ending (there was even a poll where the majority said that there should be CELEBRATION scene like end of Kotor or the end of DAO) 

[StellarNim]

Rickaveris wrote...

How come you guys all think the Catalyst is "bad"?

ME as a series proved that Organics create and then attack Synthetics every single time. Look at the Quarians: The Geth weren't hostile at all, but the Quarians sought to wipe them out immediately. Similarly, if YOU in real life created a robot that could think just like you and was stronger/smarter than you, you'd probably try to kill it before things got out of hand.

Left to their own devices, organics would be completely wiped out by synthetics, which always become superior because of their artificial rate of evolution.

All the Catalyst did was STORE--not kill, but STORE/CONVERT--advanced organics, instead of letting them get slaughtered by synthetics. The Catalyst is the biggest good guy in the damn franchise.

What would your solution be? Exterminate organics completely? Because that was the only other option for the synthetics (Reapers).

Good to know 'higher life form' is bio-gooop in a bug shaped metal shell. I still feel "just go away this time, check back in yet another 50k, we'll talk then", thats my happy ending

[filetemo]

Rickaveris wrote...

All the Catalyst did was STORE--not kill, but STORE/CONVERT--advanced organics, instead of letting them get slaughtered by synthetics. The Catalyst is the biggest good guy in the damn franchise.
.

As Shepard says, "we don't want to be preserved"

Besides, storing genetic paste is indeed,killing.The elder races are not "alive" inside the reapers.

[TrueHD]

Why would anyone waste time making all of that up?

...well, I'm still skeptical, but I'd love for it to be true, only to confirm the pile of poop called EA.

[Raven4030-2]

Oh, and again assuming it's real (still betting on fake but we'll see), don't just assume it's going to suck. I mean, honestly, if 6 years ago somebody told you your favorite sci-fi franchise would involve you joining a science-fiction secret police force to chase down a rogue agent who is the secret servant of an ancient machine race bent on killing all organic life for (until the end) vague and unknowable reasons, how would you have responded? And how would you responded if they told you one of your favorite characters would be an alien who looks like some bird/dinosaur hybrid thing?

[spz123]

TrueHD wrote...

Why would anyone waste time making all of that up?

This is the internet. I don't believe I really need to expand on that further.

[TheRevanchist]

Holy god...this is actually the worst idea I have ever heard in my entire life....if this is true I am taking ALL of me ME games back to Gamestop...seriously...

[Chaia]

I hope this is fake, other wise it looks like BioWare/EA has assumed their 'Ultimate Troll-Face' and is currently getting ready to slap everyone, espically those to complained about the ME3's SpaceMagic bonanza ending. Those naughty, naughty people.

But in seriousness if this new level of moronic plotlines is true, I'm done with Mass Effect, none of that appeals to me even in the slightest; espically the Shepard procession twaddle.

[TheGunslinger]

Ugh.

[jess05]

Yea, but personally, I just want things fixed. Bitter-sweet and Shepards death is fine by me, so long as it all makes sense and fits established lore.

I wouldn't care if there was a happy end or not .. but I suppose everyone has different opinions on the matter.

[Shezo]

Rickaveris wrote...

How come you guys all think the Catalyst is "bad"?

All the Catalyst did was STORE--not kill, but STORE/CONVERT--advanced organics, instead of letting them get slaughtered by synthetics. The Catalyst is the biggest good guy in the damn franchise.

What would your solution be? Exterminate organics completely? Because that was the only other option for the synthetics (Reapers).

STORE...well, that's one hell of a way to put it.
How would you like to be turned into dna goo and being feed to some reaper larva ?
You will be dead, whole race would be dead and be "preserved" as some abomination and mockery of life.
Yeah, that's nice indeed.

There was a lot of time for searching another solution -- cooperation with organics, controling orcanics, wiping them all out, if you like.
Instead, they chose this!

[TheRevanchist]

tobito113 wrote...

jess05 wrote...

Kub666 wrote...

Oh, and as a side note - the creators should never cater to their fanbase, and should always be a step ahead of the expectations. Music, movies, games - it's all similar. The moment you do some major work to "please the fans", you're done. So, although the original endings are terrible, I would still prefer Bioware to make some sense out of them instead of scrubbing them completely.

I disagree to an extent. They should be doing this FOR thier fanbase.

For example ... if the game had a bad ending BUT, that bad ending was somewhat explained, and fit with the lore of the universe the outrage would have never happened.
Sure, some would say .. WOW that sucked.   But that would be the extent of it.

I think the major issue, is that the way things are now it breaks previous games (ME1).
We have plot holes, and a few things that just do not fit or make sense.

The Catalyst, and the idea of the Crcucible are great examples.

Promising fans things that were not true only further angers them.


The entire idea of a series like this is to cater to your fans. Build your own story, your decisions matter, etc. as it was marketed.
ME3 goes against that principle entirely.

Doing things they way they choose is fine to a point, but I do think they should try to stay along the lines of what thier fans expect/want.  Because without the fans, they have no buisiness.

This is not true, many polls made on BSN show that ALOT of people want a happy ending (there was even a poll where the majority said that there should be CELEBRATION scene like end of Kotor or the end of DAO) 

And?...your point is?

[Deventh]

tobito113 wrote...

krogstor wrote...

ToastPants wrote...

The fact that a dev has yet to pop in here and confirm this as fake is making me fear the worst though. Come on, devs. Please?

26 pages and no official comment, gotta make you wonder.

They made no comment on the Indoc Theory, or "The Truth" DLC either. It seems the devs enjoy seeing us "speculating" (xD) and posting conspiracy theories

What is there to speculate? This is such bull****... i can see it being fake a mile away. Look at what he is saying:
"I've been the sole creator of the lighting partitions of all of
BioWare's engines and engine plugins in recent years."
So what? He just said who he was in the company so he can get sued if this is true?

Notice the username:
y.m. !ad7SQLiiVQ

Y MAD?

Modifié par Deventh, 25 mars 2012 - 11:03 .

[JulienJaden]

Interesting is one way to put it.
But the way this looks, it seems either like a fake or possibly even worse writing than what we already have to me (Terminator? And how is there a "reconstruction of Thessia" with no mass relays?)...

[Falconee]

What i do not understand:
How do they want to make a Mass Effect follower?

They would have to look up our choices in ME3.
For example, if IT isnt true, now all the people in MY galaxy have green eyes and skin.
(Synth. ending)

Do they make two different skins for every character in "Mass Shift"? One with green eyes and skin and one without?

I dont think so.

I consider it fake on the "Mass Shift" behalf.

Modifié par Falconee, 25 mars 2012 - 11:04 .