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[Ricky Alvarez]

Shezo wrote...

Rickaveris wrote...

How come you guys all think the Catalyst is "bad"?

All the Catalyst did was STORE--not kill, but STORE/CONVERT--advanced organics, instead of letting them get slaughtered by synthetics. The Catalyst is the biggest good guy in the damn franchise.

What would your solution be? Exterminate organics completely? Because that was the only other option for the synthetics (Reapers).

STORE...well, that's one hell of a way to put it.
How would you like to be turned into dna goo and being feed to some reaper larva ?
You will be dead, whole race would be dead and be "preserved" as some abomination and mockery of life.
Yeah, that's nice indeed.

There was a lot of time for searching another solution -- cooperation with organics, controling orcanics, wiping them all out, if you like.
Instead, they chose this!

Cooperation was impossible, proven by countless cycles.  The Quarian/Geth peace, which most people didn't even get in their games, was a blip on a radar spanning hundreds of thousands of millenia of Organics vs Synthetics conflict.

Control the organics?  What for?  The Reapers didn't need them for anything.

So you'd rather they wipe out organics forever instead of wiping out SOME (the extreme minority) of them every 50,000+ years?  You'd rather they war FOR ETERNITY instead of having just one war every 50,000 years?  Okay.

Modifié par Rickaveris, 25 mars 2012 - 11:04 .

[TheRevanchist]

Rickaveris wrote...

Shezo wrote...

Rickaveris wrote...

How come you guys all think the Catalyst is "bad"?

All the Catalyst did was STORE--not kill, but STORE/CONVERT--advanced organics, instead of letting them get slaughtered by synthetics. The Catalyst is the biggest good guy in the damn franchise.

What would your solution be? Exterminate organics completely? Because that was the only other option for the synthetics (Reapers).

STORE...well, that's one hell of a way to put it.
How would you like to be turned into dna goo and being feed to some reaper larva ?
You will be dead, whole race would be dead and be "preserved" as some abomination and mockery of life.
Yeah, that's nice indeed.

There was a lot of time for searching another solution -- cooperation with organics, controling orcanics, wiping them all out, if you like.
Instead, they chose this!

Cooperation was impossible, proven by countless cycles.  The Quarian/Geth peace, which most people didn't even get in their games, was a blip on a radar spanning hundreds of thousands of millenia of Organics vs Synthetics conflict.

Control the organics?  What for?  The Reapers didn't need them for anything.

So you'd rather they wipe out organics forever instead of wiping out SOME (the extreme minority) of them every 50,000+ years?  You'd rather they war FOR ETERNITY instead of having just one war every 50,000 years?  Okay.

wow...clearly someones been indoctranated by the Catalyst....

[Ricky Alvarez]

I have no idea what you are talking about.  And yoU'd BeTtEr be careFUL what kind of accuSATIONS you throw around, Missy.  There is no indoctrination KILL ALL ORGANICS going on here.  You are merely imagining things.  The Reapers are the innocent party here.  The Catalyst did the best he could with the horrible situation that the organics put synthetics in after they created them DESTROY ALL TURIANS, ELCOR DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE.  :alien::alien:

[DangerSandler]

this is the most confusing, overly complex "ending" I have ever heard in my entire life.

Modifié par DangerSandler, 25 mars 2012 - 11:11 .

[Kanon777]

Hey lets not deviate off the topic

[Shezo]

Rickaveris wrote...

Shezo wrote...

Rickaveris wrote...

How come you guys all think the Catalyst is "bad"?

All the Catalyst did was STORE--not kill, but STORE/CONVERT--advanced organics, instead of letting them get slaughtered by synthetics. The Catalyst is the biggest good guy in the damn franchise.

What would your solution be? Exterminate organics completely? Because that was the only other option for the synthetics (Reapers).

STORE...well, that's one hell of a way to put it.
How would you like to be turned into dna goo and being feed to some reaper larva ?
You will be dead, whole race would be dead and be "preserved" as some abomination and mockery of life.
Yeah, that's nice indeed.

There was a lot of time for searching another solution -- cooperation with organics, controling orcanics, wiping them all out, if you like.
Instead, they chose this!

Cooperation was impossible, proven by countless cycles.  The Quarian/Geth peace, which most people didn't even get in their games, was a blip on a radar spanning hundreds of thousands of millenia of Organics vs Synthetics conflict.

Control the organics?  What for?  The Reapers didn't need them for anything.

So you'd rather they wipe out organics forever instead of wiping out SOME (the extreme minority) of them every 50,000+ years?  You'd rather they war FOR ETERNITY instead of having just one war every 50,000 years?  Okay.

We don't know nothign about other cycles to say anything.
Cooperatoin in this case is a matter of making another being (organics) to see the perspective of a danger from synthetics.
The way how Reapers behave, it seems they don't even trying.
They chose the path of least resistance.

Yeah. they don't want control organics, cuz they don't need them.
Then why preserve life at all, if they don't care ?
Why do they even need this whole consept of cycles ?
If they don't need us, it's better to wipe all life.

All in all, that means that this star kid is a bad guy.
At least, from our perspective.

[vometia]

nomoredruggs wrote...

Oh my, I hope this is fake, because it's terrible!

Same: I really hope this is a wind-up.  The scary thing is I can no longer dismiss this sort of thing as being completely unlikely...

[KILLER_CATTT]

krogstor wrote...

Dr_Hello wrote...

KILLER_CATTT wrote...

Dr_Hello wrote...

TheQwertiest wrote...

All we have to do to prove whether it's fake or not is to wait for the April DLC announcement, which is really close now =)

How do you know the announcement is for soon? DId I miss something?

Bioware saaid we would hear about there "fix" for the ending in April.

I see. Maybe it'll be announced on April 1st...

Nah, presumably at PAX (april 6th-8th)

Excactly. Would make the most sense.

[StellarNim]

BioWare said "you really think we'd name a DLC 'THE TRUTH'? "

i see that working for 'Terminator' as well...

[Kanon777]

http://pastebin.com/znYraLnF

Hmm ok this was posted on pastebin now (just like the original scripts for ME3) by an account that dosent look fake/troll. Im not sure if the person who posted there has this info from here or somewhere else... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Pelle6666]

No thanks... This is not good.

[TheRevanchist]

StellarNim wrote...

BioWare said "you really think we'd name a DLC 'THE TRUTH'? "

i see that working for 'Terminator' as well...

Did you see them making something like the Star Kid before you got there too?....


let that sink in....

[KILLER_CATTT]

I think this is fake. Shepard do not have implants in his brain. When you are at the Cerberus headquaters they say that Shepard's brain was intact when they began the Lazarus Project.
But maybe they implanted something there anyway, I don't know.

Modifié par KILLER_CATTT, 25 mars 2012 - 11:20 .

[Kanon777]

StellarNim wrote...

BioWare said "you really think we'd name a DLC 'THE TRUTH'? "

i see that working for 'Terminator' as well...

Multiplayer was also "just a rumor" and Protean dlc too. And shadow broker leak came from 4chan...

Modifié par tobito113, 25 mars 2012 - 11:20 .

[Ricky Alvarez]

You really expect the Reapers to try to talk to the organics of every single cycle when every single cycle (including Shepard's, depending on how you play the game) disappoints them on the Organics vs Synthetics front? Look at ME3--the Quarians decide to war with the Geth DURING THE REAPER ATTACKS. Organics are ****ing insane and unreliable. The reality is that, when you have 2598739857439857349853753 advanced organics running around, ONE of them is going to disobey the Reapers and create an advanced synthetic. That's just the fact.

Of course the Reapers don't "try"--they've seen it all before, and it's a HUGE waste of time and energy, and it's a DANGER as well, to give organics the benefit of the doubt when organics disappoint them every single time.

This is why Bioware throws the innocence of the Geth into your face so often in ME3. They want you to be aware of how destructive organics are compared to synthetics, who have done nothing wrong but try to EXIST.

The Reapers preserve organics because they don't want to kill them and because they can't realistically control all of them. By preserving organics, they give organics the ability to continue exist in Reaper form. And like it or not, Reaper form does not mean "goo"--Reaper form means consciousness. Every Reaper in all of ME is clearly conscious and sentient and alive.

The Catalyst is NOT bad. The Catalyst is a synthetic that never asked to be created. Organics tried to kill him, so he defended himself by creating the "Solution". That's the entire story of the Catalyst.

[TheRevanchist]

tobito113 wrote...

StellarNim wrote...

BioWare said "you really think we'd name a DLC 'THE TRUTH'? "

i see that working for 'Terminator' as well...

Multiplayer was also "just a rumor" and Protean dlc too. And shadow broker leak came from 4chan...

"There is no multiplayer in ME3"

"Your choices from the whole series will affect the ending in ME3"

[StellarNim]

ME3 blew up the franchise, if this is the next installment, its stomping on the ashes and pissing on graves. CC4+ cast is practically all jokes..

Modifié par StellarNim, 25 mars 2012 - 11:28 .

[TheRevanchist]

Rickaveris wrote...

You really expect the Reapers to try to talk to the organics of every single cycle when every single cycle (including Shepard's, depending on how you play the game) disappoints them on the Organics vs Synthetics front? Look at ME3--the Quarians decide to war with the Geth DURING THE REAPER ATTACKS. Organics are ****ing insane and unreliable. The reality is that, when you have 2598739857439857349853753 advanced organics running around, ONE of them is going to disobey the Reapers and create an advanced synthetic. That's just the fact.

Of course the Reapers don't "try"--they've seen it all before, and it's a HUGE waste of time and energy, and it's a DANGER as well, to give organics the benefit of the doubt when organics disappoint them every single time.

This is why Bioware throws the innocence of the Geth into your face so often in ME3. They want you to be aware of how destructive organics are compared to synthetics, who have done nothing wrong but try to EXIST.

The Reapers preserve organics because they don't want to kill them and because they can't realistically control all of them. By preserving organics, they give organics the ability to continue exist in Reaper form. And like it or not, Reaper form does not mean "goo"--Reaper form means consciousness. Every Reaper in all of ME is clearly conscious and sentient and alive.

The Catalyst is NOT bad. The Catalyst is a synthetic that never asked to be created. Organics tried to kill him, so he defended himself by creating the "Solution". That's the entire story of the Catalyst.

Nice to know you know everything without explanation...So please tell us how to cure AIDS and world hunger.

[Ricky Alvarez]

kylecouch wrote...

Rickaveris wrote...

You really expect the Reapers to try to talk to the organics of every single cycle when every single cycle (including Shepard's, depending on how you play the game) disappoints them on the Organics vs Synthetics front? Look at ME3--the Quarians decide to war with the Geth DURING THE REAPER ATTACKS. Organics are ****ing insane and unreliable. The reality is that, when you have 2598739857439857349853753 advanced organics running around, ONE of them is going to disobey the Reapers and create an advanced synthetic. That's just the fact.

Of course the Reapers don't "try"--they've seen it all before, and it's a HUGE waste of time and energy, and it's a DANGER as well, to give organics the benefit of the doubt when organics disappoint them every single time.

This is why Bioware throws the innocence of the Geth into your face so often in ME3. They want you to be aware of how destructive organics are compared to synthetics, who have done nothing wrong but try to EXIST.

The Reapers preserve organics because they don't want to kill them and because they can't realistically control all of them. By preserving organics, they give organics the ability to continue exist in Reaper form. And like it or not, Reaper form does not mean "goo"--Reaper form means consciousness. Every Reaper in all of ME is clearly conscious and sentient and alive.

The Catalyst is NOT bad. The Catalyst is a synthetic that never asked to be created. Organics tried to kill him, so he defended himself by creating the "Solution". That's the entire story of the Catalyst.

Nice to know you know everything without explanation...So please tell us how to cure AIDS and world hunger.

Hint: All of this is from a game series called Mass Effect.

[StellarNim]

kylecouch wrote...

Rickaveris wrote...

You really expect the Reapers to try to talk to the organics of every single cycle when every single cycle (including Shepard's, depending on how you play the game) disappoints them on the Organics vs Synthetics front? Look at ME3--the Quarians decide to war with the Geth DURING THE REAPER ATTACKS. Organics are ****ing insane and unreliable. The reality is that, when you have 2598739857439857349853753 advanced organics running around, ONE of them is going to disobey the Reapers and create an advanced synthetic. That's just the fact.

Of course the Reapers don't "try"--they've seen it all before, and it's a HUGE waste of time and energy, and it's a DANGER as well, to give organics the benefit of the doubt when organics disappoint them every single time.

This is why Bioware throws the innocence of the Geth into your face so often in ME3. They want you to be aware of how destructive organics are compared to synthetics, who have done nothing wrong but try to EXIST.

The Reapers preserve organics because they don't want to kill them and because they can't realistically control all of them. By preserving organics, they give organics the ability to continue exist in Reaper form. And like it or not, Reaper form does not mean "goo"--Reaper form means consciousness. Every Reaper in all of ME is clearly conscious and sentient and alive.

The Catalyst is NOT bad. The Catalyst is a synthetic that never asked to be created. Organics tried to kill him, so he defended himself by creating the "Solution". That's the entire story of the Catalyst.

Nice to know you know everything without explanation...So please tell us how to cure AIDS and world hunger.

Yeah, to shoot that down further "You're the first organic to stand here"

[Plumwinebunny]

Advent... So Shepard ceases to be?

[krogstor]

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10595227/


This just in, Bioware forgot to take the dialogue they cut from the ending out of the files, people who wanted the ending they fought for, get mad.

[TheRevanchist]

Rickaveris wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Rickaveris wrote...

You really expect the Reapers to try to talk to the organics of every single cycle when every single cycle (including Shepard's, depending on how you play the game) disappoints them on the Organics vs Synthetics front? Look at ME3--the Quarians decide to war with the Geth DURING THE REAPER ATTACKS. Organics are ****ing insane and unreliable. The reality is that, when you have 2598739857439857349853753 advanced organics running around, ONE of them is going to disobey the Reapers and create an advanced synthetic. That's just the fact.

Of course the Reapers don't "try"--they've seen it all before, and it's a HUGE waste of time and energy, and it's a DANGER as well, to give organics the benefit of the doubt when organics disappoint them every single time.

This is why Bioware throws the innocence of the Geth into your face so often in ME3. They want you to be aware of how destructive organics are compared to synthetics, who have done nothing wrong but try to EXIST.

The Reapers preserve organics because they don't want to kill them and because they can't realistically control all of them. By preserving organics, they give organics the ability to continue exist in Reaper form. And like it or not, Reaper form does not mean "goo"--Reaper form means consciousness. Every Reaper in all of ME is clearly conscious and sentient and alive.

The Catalyst is NOT bad. The Catalyst is a synthetic that never asked to be created. Organics tried to kill him, so he defended himself by creating the "Solution". That's the entire story of the Catalyst.

Nice to know you know everything without explanation...So please tell us how to cure AIDS and world hunger.

Hint: All of this is from a game series called Mass Effect.

....you realize the Catalyst hates Synthetics right?

He is saving organics from being destroid by them...he is not saving synthetics by changeing organics.

Even then...the Quarians are more then capable of destroying the Geth...until the Reapers do the very thing they are trying to prevent...which is create a Tech Singularity by bootsing Geth to become stronger. It's simply more shotty writing that you are defending for reasons unknown.