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(Priestly: Rumors are fake) Possible leak of April 24th DLC and next game? Either this, or an elaborate fake


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#1501
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awful, just awful ideas to me. Taking shep and making him the starchild's ***** is slap in the face to the whole point of Shep being customizable.

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If this is true:

*Insert obligatory "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" meme*

If this is false:

THANK GOD.

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tobito113 wrote...


DarthTeneo ‏
@JessicaMerizan are you aware of the Terminator DLC "leak" (probably fake) that happened yesterday?

Jessica Merizan ‏
@DarthTeneo the fact that I was sleeping peacefully should give you an indication about how serious that is. Also don't comment on rumors ;)


Oh wait this sounds very ambigous right?

EDIT: Removing my overreaction, need to read better

Gearing down my frustration....DONE

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Myrmedus wrote...

I haven't read the whole thing yet but I just had to comment on this bit:

Conflict 3) Though resurrected, the character Shepard has ceased to be. The
Catalyst has transmigrated into him via his synthetic components, and he has become
"Advent".


Er, JC Denton/Helios merger anyone? :P


Well you know Casey's all time favorite game is don't you?

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Mesmurae wrote...

A very elaborate fake if not indeed true. Still, fake or not, some points of OP's post are still valid. Such as EA being the real villain here. I've finally been convinced to stop giving money to EA. After failures such as Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 3 falling flat on it's face in the final minutes, they've lost a customer.

Others have said similar, and I would encourage people to do the same if you're truly tired of EA shipping out unfinished games.

...But if you REALLY MUST buy a game from EA... buy it used. They don't make any money that way. And don't go after the DLC either.

P.S. On the off chance that anything in OP's post is true... 'Mass Shift' is going to fail miserably if it's more 'action oriented' and has less RPG elements. It would feel like playing a Halo game.


OR you know :bandit: pirate.

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maybe this doesnt have to suck. I still have some faith in bioware.

but its a dangerous course.

but a damned good read, I kinda liked the terminator bit.

me4 or mass shift is gonna be a spin off and let's face it, when have these ever been worth your while..,

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AllThatJazz wrote...

 I'm confused. Some guy on 4chan mentioned 'The Truth' dlc a while back, which sounded reasonably good, but was completely dismissed on the boards as fake within about 10 pages. Some other guy on 4chan mentioned a bunch of dlc, including 'The Rescue', and 'Partners in Crime', and 'Take Back Omega' (the latter of which is pretty likely). Likewise, this stuff was dismissed as a troll very quickly. This, on the other hand, also mooted by some guy on 4chan, has gone for over 40 pages in just one day and a fair few seem to think it's legit. Why? Because it's got some videogame production shorthand in it? What makes this idea any more likely than the others we've heard? 


The explanation is quite simple: that concept makes the issue with endings not so serious - such insanity that nobody could believed in before ;)

That is a remarkable talent: create such disasterous concept to makes previous disasterous idea (endings) looks like nothing.
Standing ovation.

Modifié par EmGo, 25 mars 2012 - 09:04 .


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Turtlicious wrote...

Mesmurae wrote...

A very elaborate fake if not indeed true. Still, fake or not, some points of OP's post are still valid. Such as EA being the real villain here. I've finally been convinced to stop giving money to EA. After failures such as Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 3 falling flat on it's face in the final minutes, they've lost a customer.

Others have said similar, and I would encourage people to do the same if you're truly tired of EA shipping out unfinished games.

...But if you REALLY MUST buy a game from EA... buy it used. They don't make any money that way. And don't go after the DLC either.

P.S. On the off chance that anything in OP's post is true... 'Mass Shift' is going to fail miserably if it's more 'action oriented' and has less RPG elements. It would feel like playing a Halo game.


OR you know :bandit: pirate.

While I will not endorse any illegal downloading, it does happen and I'm sure it has crossed many minds.

Modifié par Mesmurae, 25 mars 2012 - 08:59 .


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It's been confirmed as a fake. Deal with it.

Also on Merizan's Twitter:

@JessicaMerizan Now that ME3 is out, are the devs already arguing over whether they'd rather have JE2 or a totally new franchise?

@Dasher1010 :)
Devs are just doing pre-production and exhausted after working on the ME trilogy. They don't even know what they're doing yet.

Modifié par Dasher1010, 25 mars 2012 - 09:02 .


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The only thing about this "leak" that might be true is BW relationship with EA. Its a shame that the executives jumped in the greedy bed with ea, but not surprising. The majority of business owners jump in that bed when their businesses soar. Money changes people, that's a fact; some for better, the majority for worse. And the employees pay the price of the consumers backlash unfortunately. But thats capitalism for you

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blooregard wrote...

I was under the impression 95% of the retakers do not accept Ray's comment about "clarifying" and want anything from a 4th option to shoot the duct rat in his face to something that changes the ending entirely. closure is a must but "Terminator" just sounds awful since Shepard's body would probably be in similar if not worse condition then what it was at the beginning of 2 where he was "just meat and tubes" .


No Terminator doesn't sound right at all how did the Normandy pick everyone up during the battle, Why did everyone willingly leave, How did a the Normandy end up on the edge of the Sol system on a planet not discovered by the year 2188 when it was in a mass relay already. I'm sorry but "Terminator" will probalby end up creating more questions about wtf happened then the current endings

the "Great Sol War" though sounds cool if we absolutely HAVE to have the current endings be real.


Do you have a poll on that 95%? When i read the reactions to Ray i could clearly see the movement started to get divided on what they actually wanted...

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this is worse than the ending we already have. i hope its fake

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Repossessor wrote...

Narkeh wrote...

April fools is so close, I don't know what to believe anymore


Well the person that leaked this writes Final Fantasy 13 fanfiction -- what does that tell us? ;)


Tells us nothing. Especially considering, as far as I know (unless something changed), the actual releaser of this information (despite low probabilities of validity) is not known. It was SPECULATION much like what all of us are doing based on someones prior encounters with somebody by that users name.

It was never said or given that the writer of this leak stuff went by that name.

Dasher1010 wrote...

It's been confirmed as a fake. Deal with it.

Also on Merizan's Twitter:

@JessicaMerizan Now that ME3 is out, are the devs already arguing over whether they'd rather have JE2 or a totally new franchise?

@Dasher1010 :)

Devs are just doing pre-production and exhausted after working on
the ME trilogy. They don't even know what they're doing yet.


That actually gives credit to this "leak" to be honest. Pre-production includes storyboarding and outlines like these. As far as I'm aware anyway.

But its validity is irrelevent to the fun of speculation.

Modifié par WizenSlinky0, 25 mars 2012 - 09:08 .


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Orthodox Infidel wrote...

BobbyTheI wrote...

One contradiction: it says something about Tali "seeking reestablishment of the Mass effect," and yet Liara is supposed helping with reconstruction on Thessia. How'd she get to Thessia if the relays haven't been reconstructed or a replacement hasn't been found? I know that Thessia's system was relatively close to the Sol system, at least in comparison to the Far Rim where Tali's probably trying to get, but I think we've gone over in great detail how getting to even the closest system with just FTL travel is near impossible.


Also it mentions Liara burrying her mother, something that could and should have happened three years ago. In some cases she's right there to pick it up off of the floor of Peak 13.



Ha ha ha ha!!! CTFU!

On a serious note, if this is true and this is the DLC, I'm not shelling out any money for this crap. It sounds awful. Good God, is this for real?

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Well, if the catalyst really wasn't as neutral as he appeared, and wanted to possess Shepard, then it would explain how Shepard became such a wimp at the end of the game during his conversation with Starchild. If Starchild invented reapers and indoctrination, maybe he was indoctrinating Shepard during the final conversation, and that's why Shepard couldn't think straight and submitted to Starchild's faulty logic? That would put my mind at least somewhat at ease over the terrible wimpy Shepard ending who can't say how the Geth being reunited with the Quarians defeats the Catalyst's logic.

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that's the dumbest thing i've ever read

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GSS115 wrote...

tobito113 wrote...


DarthTeneo ‏
@JessicaMerizan are you aware of the Terminator DLC "leak" (probably fake) that happened yesterday?

Jessica Merizan ‏
@DarthTeneo the fact that I was sleeping peacefully should give you an indication about how serious that is. Also don't comment on rumors ;)


Oh wait this sounds very ambigous right?


EDIT: Removing my overreaction, need to read better


If the leak were completely true, and her job was to try and make people dismiss it, how would she have responded differently?  It's not like 20 Questions where if you stumble upon the right answer they are forced to say, " ya got us!"

Modifié par Rdubs, 25 mars 2012 - 09:22 .


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tobito113 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

I was under the impression 95% of the retakers do not accept Ray's comment about "clarifying" and want anything from a 4th option to shoot the duct rat in his face to something that changes the ending entirely. closure is a must but "Terminator" just sounds awful since Shepard's body would probably be in similar if not worse condition then what it was at the beginning of 2 where he was "just meat and tubes" .


No Terminator doesn't sound right at all how did the Normandy pick everyone up during the battle, Why did everyone willingly leave, How did a the Normandy end up on the edge of the Sol system on a planet not discovered by the year 2188 when it was in a mass relay already. I'm sorry but "Terminator" will probalby end up creating more questions about wtf happened then the current endings

the "Great Sol War" though sounds cool if we absolutely HAVE to have the current endings be real.


Do you have a poll on that 95%? When i read the reactions to Ray i could clearly see the movement started to get divided on what they actually wanted...




I've noticed alot of people going against the "clarify" response and demanding an actual change in endings not just "clarification"

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The original post does not ring at all true to me. The letter explaining who he is and context reads like someone from the outside looking in trying to write compelling real-sounding explanations but it doesn't sound in any way like reality. I've never been to BioWare but I do know video game studios from the inside and this doesn't have the ring of truth for me.

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krogstor wrote...

*snip previous posts*

Wrex's "distant granddaughter" is set in CC4+, which is supposedly Mass Shift. This is at the time Liara is presumably a matriarch. Note that in the proposed DLC according to these documents (CC1-3), Tali is trying to bring back the mass effect technology.

It's possible Liara got home on a transport vessel that managed to actually chug its way back, or Tali was successful in bringing back the technology. Or it just took a damn long time, but she survived the way back, knowing that Asari have 1000 year life spans, it's feasible. Of course, BW probably has deus ex machina created for this too.

As for Ashley/Kaidan committing suicide/trying, look at all the **** they've been through, Eden Prime, Shepard with Cerberus, being made a spectre by Udina then him working with Cerberus too. That coupled with the loss of their loved ones. Don't tell me that's not plausible, you'd be lying. Especially if Shepard DOES indeed die in the end, then it's even more likely.


Krogan last a long time. Even if he somehow died but had kids with Eve they still wouldn't be distant. Distant implies a long ways away. It's not his "direct" granddaughter. 

So the other LIs get to marry Shep but not the VS? How's that work if Shep is dead and that's why they're thinking about it? Shouldn't the other LIs be thinking the same thing if Shep died? Why include a marriage path at all then? And the VS isn't the only one who has been through some crap. Garrus has too.  This doesn't add up.

The non-inclusion of other LIs also seems suspicious to me.

This "leak" has just enough theory from here in it (speculation of Liara being a matriarch in ME4 and the Sol war theory) to make it seem like it's a legit script from Bioware, but there's no way this is. 

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It's from 4chan, I won't even try to read the op lol.

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bioware says its fake. once upon a time i would of said .. ok it must be fake then. now i dont trust anything thats said by bioware due to the outright lies told.

ill take a wait and see with this as im curious how they will dig themselves out of this pit they are in. that said real or not im not purchasing a single thing from bioware again no matter how much i would like closure

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This is terrible. I really hope this isn't the way they're going. There's just so much wrong here.

What's really sad is that I want to dismiss it as fake: there's too much that's contradictory within the statement from the author, and too many contradictory plot threads in the alleged content (the types of which couldn't be resolved simply by assuming different choice paths). It's nonsensical in some of its assumptions (it seems to assume consequences of Destroy and Control are not mutually exclusive, for instance). And, at a kneejerk level, it's wholly unfair to VSmancers. While I understand the romance with the VS is one of the angstiest things to ever angst, there's a difference between whumping the VS and their romance, and outright decimating it and them. I mean, they're the only LI you can't choose a branching path to marry? They're the only LI who (at least) attempt suicide? What sort of shenanigans are these?! That's completely out of character for both of them. Particularly so if you romanced them and were faithful.

But, what's really sad is that I can't dismiss it out of hand, thanks to the level of writing on display in the current ending. It's seriously just that bad. Before I would have been able to look at all of the discrepancies in what's been given us in this "leak" and all of the suspicious remarks the supposed leaker is making, and I'd be able to laugh it off.

Now, though? Not so much.

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blooregard wrote...

tobito113 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

I was under the impression 95% of the retakers do not accept Ray's comment about "clarifying" and want anything from a 4th option to shoot the duct rat in his face to something that changes the ending entirely. closure is a must but "Terminator" just sounds awful since Shepard's body would probably be in similar if not worse condition then what it was at the beginning of 2 where he was "just meat and tubes" .


No Terminator doesn't sound right at all how did the Normandy pick everyone up during the battle, Why did everyone willingly leave, How did a the Normandy end up on the edge of the Sol system on a planet not discovered by the year 2188 when it was in a mass relay already. I'm sorry but "Terminator" will probalby end up creating more questions about wtf happened then the current endings

the "Great Sol War" though sounds cool if we absolutely HAVE to have the current endings be real.


Do you have a poll on that 95%? When i read the reactions to Ray i could clearly see the movement started to get divided on what they actually wanted...




I've noticed alot of people going against the "clarify" response and demanding an actual change in endings not just "clarification"



I'm of the mind where I want more than just clarification and closure. I want my choices to actually matter in the game. I'd like there to be a super happy fun time ending that you have to work so very crazy hard at and make all the right decisions. Or, there can be an instance where you absolutely lose Earth, the reapers win, everyone gets harvested. So yes, I'm in the camp of wanting more than just clarification and closure.

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Malevolence65 wrote...

I think that alpha is a lot more unpolished than DA2 was.


An alpha is rarely even feature-complete (meaning it plain doesn't work). Let's be clear, things change during development. The voice-acting by actual voice-artists is done very, very late in the game. An Alpha would have no voice over. Probably not many effects. No final music, placeholder cut scenes and placeholder textures. 

DA2 was not an Alpha. It may have been rushed but it was a feature-complete game.