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[evil-pineapples]

Dark energy ending can be found here: http://www.strategyi...ffect-3-endings

Frankly, indoc theory is a sad attempt to polish a turd. If true, it offers even less closure than the current ending, which is a feat. It would feel like another stupid "twist" ending just for the sake of it.

The dark energy ending is more consistent with the feel of Mass Effect (especially when it comes to the final choice, a true Paragon/Renegade option) as well as more satisfying on an intellectual and emotional level.

Modifié par evil-pineapples, 25 mars 2012 - 12:27 .

[ZackG312]

dark energy would have been good but the writers in their all infinte wisdom decided that the current was good enough for us

[Heimdall]

dark energy. The indoctrination "ending" isn't really an ending at all, it removes the ending and leaves the game incomplete.

[ZombifiedJake]

Anyone care to elaborate or direct me to the dark eneregy ending?

[FirstBlood XL]

I haven't seen all the details on Dark Energy ending (was it the Reapers need to harvest organics in order to have the power to fight off the dark energy?)

But I really dig the Indoc Theory. It turns the convention of Dues Ex Machina right on its head (which I've never seen done before), indoctrinates the players themselves (which is all kinds of brilliant), and shows that Shepard's biggest battle is within his own mind, not with a rifle on the battlefield.

I see that people would say it doesn't have closure... but it has all the closure I need. By out-willing the Indoctrination, Shep is left to command the troops for a full-scale attack on the Reapers.

I would like more cutscenes to show Shep, crew and "War Assets" taking care of business... but hell, I could leave it as an up-to-your-imagination ending as well. Shep wakes up in the "breather" ending, squad/crew help him up, medi-gel the **** out of him, and he says something like "I know what must be done" cut to black.

Either one is better then what we got handed to us originally.

[evil-pineapples]

FirstBlood XL wrote...

I haven't seen all the details on Dark Energy ending (was it the Reapers need to harvest organics in order to have the power to fight off the dark energy?)

Close. The Reapers "reaped" in order to form a collective intelligence that could become powerful enough to solve the dark energy problem. Humanity, in our glorious genetic diversity, offered a significant intelligence boost that would have made the Reapers advanced enough to solve the problem once and for all... At the cost of our annihilation. Victory through sacrifice.

Modifié par evil-pineapples, 24 mars 2012 - 04:52 .

[DeinonSlayer]

Indoctrination theory isn't really an ending at all. Dark energy would be better - at least it would explain what was happening to the Dholen system in ME2. I for one wanted to know what was going on there - that wasn't the only system in-game whose star was dying prematurely. The concept was as intriguing as it was alarming, and it was a shame to see it cast aside.

That said, it seems it might be too big a change to implement at this point. Indoctrination theory has the same problem, but it isn't the only way Bioware could extricate themselves from their present situation. The proposal linked from my signature would be easy to implement, and provides four new divergent outcomes, ranging from costly victory to total defeat. There are other options out there.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 24 mars 2012 - 05:00 .

[mkunze0813]

So was dark energy the ending that got leaked in the demo files, or was it the same as in the final game?

[evil-pineapples]

Demo files had the same ending as in the final product.

[DeinonSlayer]

mkunze0813 wrote...

So was dark energy the ending that got leaked in the demo files, or was it the same as in the final game?

Same as the final game. The reaction to it was the same, too, only on a smaller scale. They ignored the feedback they got back then, too. Tamped it out by claiming that was from an older version of the script and revisions had since been made. Joke's on us, I guess.

[Kmead15]

... Dark energy. But I dislike both.

[AkiKishi]

Dark Energy but it needed to be made a more imediate and recognisable threat to work.

[devSin]

Neither. BioWare can and should have done better.

[chaosapiant]

I always saw the game as "organics vs synthetics." I bought the original artbook for ME1, and it states in the book that the overall tone/MO of the game was organics vs synthetics. So, that being said, the game ended the way I thought it should have, though more closure would be nice. The dark energy thing, while interesting, would have worked if clues were dropped in ME1. As it stands, we can trace the organics vs synthetics thread to the very beginning of ME1.

[Sebbe1337o]

They could possibly mix them a little, so they don't have to remove so much of the ending we have, more or less just remove the explosions etc and add a paragon/renegade interrupt that takes Shep out of the indoctrination for a while so Harbinger (starchild) explains the REAL reason why reapers reap etc... Dark energy theory etc...

[evil-pineapples]

I don't understand what's wrong with having multiple toggleable endings. Why's there have to be just one?

[TheNevincer]

The existence of the Indoc Theory (which renders what we got a non-ending) would most likely validate the whole Dark Energy thing as the Reaper's true agenda. There's not really anything to argue, it's apples and oranges.

[Robhuzz]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

mkunze0813 wrote...

So was dark energy the ending that got leaked in the demo files, or was it the same as in the final game?

Same as the final game. The reaction to it was the same, too, only on a smaller scale. They ignored the feedback they got back then, too. Tamped it out by claiming that was from an older version of the script and revisions had since been made. Joke's on us, I guess.

That pretty much means that the "We're surprised the fans didn't like the ending" statement is a big fat lie as well. As expected really but it's good to get some sort of confirmation.

[XPMUser]

they are not mutually exclusive

[TheNevincer]

XPMUser wrote...

they are not mutually exclusive

This.

[rabidsmurf]

dark energy. They should have kept it even though it was leaked.

[THEE_DEATHMASTER]

If Indoctrination Theory goes somewhere really worthwhile, I'd like to see what Bio does with it.

Modifié par THEE_DEATHMASTER, 24 mars 2012 - 05:51 .

[TheIdiocyWizard]

I like the Dark energy ending, but I think I like the indoc theory better.
However...

XPMUser wrote...

they are not mutually exclusive

[TheNevincer]

1. Modify the current ending into an indoctrination attempt/hallucination
2. Continue the fight on Earth against Harbinger
3. Give us a real ending where it's revealed the Reaper's function was to prevent the spread of Dark Energy
4. Give us choices that means a damn, and doesn't neccessarily include destruction of all Mass Relays
5. ?????
6. PROFIT! You've fixed the game and won back most of your fans.