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noobcannon

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you guys know this isn't really geoff keighley right?

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FemmeShep wrote...

GeoffKeighley wrote...

iTofu - I thought Chris from BioWare said that post was not true?


Chris asked PW if he wrote it, PW said he didn't.

That doesn't disprove anything. In fact, there is a mountain of evidence that suggests he did say it. He's been on the PA forums since 2007 (that account is confirmed to be his). And he has a deal with the forum/community,  that they are not to quote or screenshot his posts. And all his posts are deleted after an hour of being posted. 

But regardless of that, can you answer the following then:

I. Was the ending written solely by Casey and Mac
II. Did the ending not get a peer review/ input from the rest of the writers?



I'm not sure why you are asking those questions when you, yourself, acknowledged they were answered. Patrick Tweeted that Mac wrote the ending, so that's one. And Geoff already said he doesn't know anything about the peer review question, so that's two. I saw Patrick's tweet myself.

Modifié par Shaun72, 25 mars 2012 - 02:23 .


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noobcannon wrote...

you guys know this isn't really geoff keighley right?


Check his twitter. It's him.

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pavi132 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

you guys know this isn't really geoff keighley right?


Check his twitter. It's him.


And Chris Priestly already confirmed it, too.

Modifié par cec_121088, 25 mars 2012 - 02:24 .


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GeoffKeighley wrote...

iTofu - I thought Chris from BioWare said that post was not true?

As others mentioned, Chris said that when asked Weekes denied that it was him who posted. Evidence seems to say it was Weekes as can be seen in the news articles. We may never know and perhaps it's better that way.

Perhaps the proper questions in regards to the Takyris post and related articles is:
  • Are the details in the Takyris post plausible?
  • Could the ending have been written entirely by Mac and Casey without being reviewed by the writing staff, unlike all the other parts of the game?

Thank you for making this thread and answering questions. It's unfortunate so many will revolve around the ending, but that's what is hot in people's mind now.

Modifié par iTofu, 25 mars 2012 - 02:40 .


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Hi Geoff,

Thanks so much for responding to all these questions. I know that interacting with fans can be difficult, especially when we're all emotional, so you definitely have our gratitude.

I am currently perusing the app (seems great, by the way!), so this question may already be answered, but I was wondering if you could clarify how the developers seemed to believe the fanbase would react to the game as a whole.

Did you get the feeling they knew the ending would be polarizing? If so, did they seem to think it would be as divisive as it ended up being. Or was the team far more concerned on player reaction to other aspects of the game, such as the multiplayer or revamped squad interaction.

Obviously, the major uproar surrounding the game is regarding the ending, so I'm just wondering if you know how accurate the Bioware team was in judging audience reaction.

Thanks for your time!

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bucyrus5000 wrote...

Regardless of the answer, thank you Mr. Keighley for spending the past 9 hours with us answering questions. It is very kind of you. I look forward to your next project.

Yeah, I think this is kind of a cool thread so far.

The icing on the cake would be if Diana Allers would stop by to ask Geoff a few questions...:bandit:

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Thanks again Geoff, I'm really against buying anything ME related at the moment, but think getting your app is a good idea to show that folks are trying to be more informed.

I really want to find out why the process that has worked before created such a horribly flawedm result for so many people. With luck your posts here will create enough extra interest that you can keep adding to it at the saga unfolds.

At the very least, reading it is a better option than playing the game again. Thanks again.

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Shaun72 wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

GeoffKeighley wrote...

iTofu - I thought Chris from BioWare said that post was not true?


Chris asked PW if he wrote it, PW said he didn't.

That doesn't disprove anything. In fact, there is a mountain of evidence that suggests he did say it. He's been on the PA forums since 2007 (that account is confirmed to be his). And he has a deal with the forum/community,  that they are not to quote or screenshot his posts. And all his posts are deleted after an hour of being posted. 

But regardless of that, can you answer the following then:

I. Was the ending written solely by Casey and Mac
II. Did the ending not get a peer review/ input from the rest of the writers?



I'm not sure why you are asking those questions when you, yourself, acknowledged they were answered. Patrick Tweeted that Mac wrote the ending, so that's one. And Geoff already said he doesn't know anything about the peer review question, so that's two. I saw Patrick's tweet myself.


Want a more definitive answer tbh. While you are right, it's more thank likely true at this point. Would be nice to hear it from someone directly. Plus..if he was around during the ending, why not? 

Modifié par FemmeShep, 25 mars 2012 - 02:32 .


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Jade8aby88 wrote...

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btw, how do I get your app on PC Geoff? That would be wonderful if I could do that.

whats a problem? buy/ download/ install/ enjoy  :)/

And once again- again- again- thank you Geoff fo the Final Hours of Mass Effect 3 <3


Where do I buy/download/install/enjoy it from?


http://me3finalhours...log/?page_id=34

Modifié par don-mika, 25 mars 2012 - 02:43 .


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Hawke_12 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Deventh wrote...

Is the indoctrination theory true?


No.


Proof?


Proof that it is?

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poor geoff. mate maybe you shoulda kept schtumm till after the BW team have come forward with what they intend to do in april, seems you got jacked by folks all wanting to ask impossible questions you have no business in knowing anyway.
its not your fault or theirs, no-one is saying anything and we are kept in the dark, its like a scramble to find out some inside info...
anyway good luck with the app,

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noobcannon wrote...

you guys know this isn't really geoff keighley right?


If you click the big BIOWARE underneath the thread name on the board, you'll see that Chris posted to confirm that this was Geoff.

Please don't post something like this without being properly informed.

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pavi132 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

 I can confirm that this is Geoff Keighley and I am very pleased that he's taking some time out of his busy schedule to talk with us here on the BSN.

Everyone play nice and be respectful. Treat him as well as you'd treat me.

No wait. Treat him much better than that.

Thanks Geoff. Welcome to the BSN.


Didn't a moderator close his thread and call him a troll earlier?

As if moderaters are informed about BioWare's plans.

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What's your opinion of the last mission?

Just trying to get a sense of where the crew's at, thoughts?

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Thank you for your answers, Geoff. :)

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Well after taking a quick read through seems that I missed a really good Q&A. Problem with being on the other side of the pond. But anyways, Since your taking questions, I believe, I have a few that aren't end related.

How would you describe This app to someone who has never heard of it before?

What made you want to write this?

If Bioware does change the ending will that force a rewrite on your part?

Do you have any plans to release it outside of the Ipod,ipad, andriod handhelds?

How long do you intend for it to be?

That all i wanted to ask. If your still around. If not then oh well, i tried.

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Thank you for coming by and opening yourself up to talk with all of us Geoff. :)

I haven't gotten the app yet, but fully intend to in the next few days (I want it on my PC and haven't had a chance to be on my PC, just my work laptop) and I'm very excited by what little I've seen and heard about it. I enjoy behind the scenes type programs/books/etc and your app looks very interesting! I look forward to future installments of it as well as the chaos pans out into action in the coming months.

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Hey, Geoff

Do you anticipate anyone actually taking responsibility for the ending? Or will it just be a collective shoulder shrug from BW forever, alienating their fans for the long term. I've been talking with some people about a concentrated buy-it-used boycott, and how we could use that as a tool to create real life consequences for whomever is directly responsible for the endings.

Just imagine. The "Mac Walters Electronic Arts Used Game Boycott". Has a nice ring to it. This is what happens when you mess with us, guys. Get your **** together.

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Aerevane wrote...

Why do banana's have a curve?


To defy gravity.

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Is the app free?

Modifié par Dr_Hello, 25 mars 2012 - 06:37 .


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GeoffKeighley wrote...

 Hi everyone -

This is Geoff Keighley, the author of The Final Hours of Mass Effect 3.  I thought I'd stop by the forum to answer any questions you have about the app and the story, which is now out for iPad and also PC/Mac. (You can see more details at http://www.me3finalhours.com).

I'd love to hear what you think of the story!  I'll try to respond to as many of you as possible.

Geoff

Why must you release an app that depresses me?

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Dr_Hello wrote...

Is the app free? Otherwise no thanks

it's $3, less than a cup of coffee, not that I want to sell you on it. It's cool, it's an adobe Air presentation. I would say it's worth the $3, but it's your money to spend.

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jspiess wrote...

Thanks for the reply earlier. The Final Hours app is awesome!
Was there any mentioning of all of the plot holes/inconsistencies with the starchild's logic? Mainly how bringing peace between the geth and the quarians voids out the "created will always rebel against the created". This and other instances have been the cause of much of the uproar about the ending.

Thanks!


The Citadel AI is trying to Indoctrinate the player by making the player make the "wrong choice".

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GorrilaKing wrote...

Geoff, please stop comparing a game to a novel or a movie. That comparison is severely lacking since neither of your two examples show the kind of interactivity a game does.
Plus, ending a game that is based on player choice in this manner (brutally railroading) only to "make the players feel something" is indeed poor writing. And since when does poor writing demand respect for "vision"?
I'm sorry but I cannot accept these statements.


@ Geoff,

I somewhat agree with GorrilaKing.

While I can respect the vision of whoever came up with this ending, it was poorly written (fleshed out) and not well executed on screen. Otherwise the endings would have been much better received. The plot holes and inconsistencies are too flagrant to ignore and therefore the attempt at creating a profound and mystifying ending falls flat.

In the case that the indoctrination theory turns out to be true as revealed in DLC, then all the plotholes and such would be invalid and the existing endings would make total sense. Final verdict would then be, ingenious plan, what a twist!

But I would differ with GorrilaKing in that, ME has a lot in common with movies and novels; novels because of the extensive writing and details it must have required in terms of stories, dialogues and characters; movies because of the cinematic techniques and language ME uses for its storytelling. And when combined with gaming features, it results into interactive storytelling.

Modifié par Dr_Hello, 25 mars 2012 - 03:50 .