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[jedsithor]

Geoff, a favor - if you have any plans to discuss the ME3 ending controversy on the next set of Bonus Rounds episodes, can you please not have Jeff Gerstmann on the panel? I don't mind him having an opinion, it's his lack of integrity when it comes to this issue that I have a problem with. Actually, Erik Kain from Forbes, if you can get him, would be great to have on as he's done some great work on the subject and of course Pach is a must.

[Shaun72]

FemmeShep wrote...

Shaun72 wrote...


I'm not sure why you are asking those questions when you, yourself, acknowledged they were answered. Patrick Tweeted that Mac wrote the ending, so that's one. And Geoff already said he doesn't know anything about the peer review question, so that's two. I saw Patrick's tweet myself.

Want a more definitive answer tbh. While you are right, it's more thank likely true at this point. Would be nice to hear it from someone directly. Plus..if he was around during the ending, why not? 

A more definitive answer?? I just told you that Geoff already answered the question.....he doesn't know! And you can look at the tweet from Patrick all day long and see that he said Mac wrote the ending, it's not like he deleted it. It's still there. Patrick works for Bioware, do you think he is lying? A journalist is going to give you a more definitive answer than a writer at Bioware?

Here is Geoff's response again:

"bucyrus5000 - I'm not sure why I keep getting asked this "skipping the peer review" process question. Was it reported somewhere? I'm not aware of anything skipping any process."

There is both of your answers. How much more direct can they be? Are you expecting someone to deliver the information to your door via singing telagram?

Modifié par Shaun72, 25 mars 2012 - 03:49 .

[FemmeShep]

jedsithor wrote...

Geoff, a favor - if you have any plans to discuss the ME3 ending controversy on the next set of Bonus Rounds episodes, can you please not have Jeff Gerstmann on the panel? I don't mind him having an opinion, it's his lack of integrity when it comes to this issue that I have a problem with. Actually, Erik Kain from Forbes, if you can get him, would be great to have on as he's done some great work on the subject and of course Pach is a must.

Him or Paul Tassi (from Forbes as well). 

[kkr]

As a faithful fan to bioware, and as a person who believes in the fact that mistakes and oversights are almost unavoidable on projects the scale of mass effect 3, I feel that it is crucial that i stand on both sides of the field with both the developers on one side and the fans on the other. (1) On the first side (the developers), I feel that it is in the end the developers who have the last words in the making of their creation, and that the fans should have respectfully and kindly requested additional endings instead of trying to violate a companies as well as individual free will by demanding ,with little to no respect at the behest of the fans for such a outstanding game series, they create new endings.(2) On the other side (the fans), I believe that the mass effect franchise is not a simple collaboration of games, but an individual experience for each and every gamer. For this reason, I believe that the fans are not as outraged as they seem, but confused, saddened, and believe it or not heartsick that the endings were what they were, very identical and spotted with uncertainty. The fans would love descent closure to multiple oversights in many different ways, whether it be to only correct the issue of the plot holes, insure more hope, or for those who are inclined to be stubborn and a little unrealistic (myself included) wanted an ending that had Shepard and his/her friends( including love interest) survive, go to a bar, get treated like the heroes they are and get blind drunk because of their victory over the reapers. I speak for all the fans, who will allow me to speak for them, when I say that as the fans who still respect the staff of bioware we ask bioware with all possible kindness of them to consider the idea of refined endings. Even if this ideology is not considered, I KeAaron Roberts would like to thank any bioware staff member and fan for reading the perspectives of just one simple Mass Effect fan.

[FellishBeast]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

GeoffKeighley wrote...

 Hi everyone -

This is Geoff Keighley, the author of The Final Hours of Mass Effect 3.  I thought I'd stop by the forum to answer any questions you have about the app and the story, which is now out for iPad and also PC/Mac. (You can see more details at http://www.me3finalhours.com).

I'd love to hear what you think of the story!  I'll try to respond to as many of you as possible.

Geoff

Why must you release an app that depresses me?

[FemmeShep]

Shaun72 wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

Shaun72 wrote...


I'm not sure why you are asking those questions when you, yourself, acknowledged they were answered. Patrick Tweeted that Mac wrote the ending, so that's one. And Geoff already said he doesn't know anything about the peer review question, so that's two. I saw Patrick's tweet myself.

Want a more definitive answer tbh. While you are right, it's more thank likely true at this point. Would be nice to hear it from someone directly. Plus..if he was around during the ending, why not? 

A more definitive answer?? I just told you that Geoff already answered the question.....he doesn't know! And you can look at the tweet from Patrick all day long and see that he said Mac wrote the ending, it's not like he deleted it. It's still there. Patrick works for Bioware, do you think he is lying? A journalist is going to give you a more definitive answer than a writer at Bioware?

There is both of your answers. How much more direct can they be? Are you expecting someone to deliver the information to your door via singing telagram?

lol chill

I didn't read his reply where he said he didn't know.

No need to get bent out of shape. You act like we have a limited amount of questions we are allowed to ask. People have been asking their questions, and Geoff has come back later and replied in bulk. 

Since he was there in the final days of the game being made, I was just curious what he knew about how the actual ending was created and handled within their process. But you are right, based on what he said it seems he has no clue about the peer review process or whether the ending got input or not.

Modifié par FemmeShep, 25 mars 2012 - 04:00 .

[Carpetfresh]

For Mr. Geoff Keighley.

Thank you for taking you're time to answer some of these (most/all) questions.  Here is mine that I would like to ask.

With the Inodctrination Theory circling about through the vocal minority, how come no one looks at the Codex?  It cleary tells the player what Inodctrination does and Shepard has none of the side effects.  If you can, why did Bioware attempt to use Psychology when the fan base can not grasp it? 

Once again, thank you for you're time.

[Sully_47]

Thanks for answering these questions I really appreciate it, I just have a couple questions ,

1. What can we expect from the next update
2. Did you personally like the ending , and what did you think of the small sequence where shep breaths

[Shaun72]

FemmeShep wrote...

lol chill

I didn't read his reply where he said he didn't know.

No need to get bent out of shape. You act like we have a limited amount of questions we are allowed to ask. People have been asking their questions, and Geoff has come back later and replied in bulk. 

Since he was there in the final days of the game being made, I was just curious what he knew about how the actual ending was created and handled within their process. But you are right, based on what he said it seems he has no clue about the peer review process or whether the ending got input or not.

But I confirmed he said that earlier in the thread when I responded to you the first time. Why would I lie when you could just go back and check yourself?

And the second part of your question can be answered by going to Patrick Weekes' Twitter and looking at the responses on March 10.

[bboynexus]

Hey Geoff! Brad from Steamcast. Thanks for taking the time to respond to the questions this community has. I was wondering if you could briefly describe the differences in the way you approached The Final Hours of ME3 in comparison to the one you wrote for Portal 2.

Love your work!

[cavs25]

It seems there is a certain disconnect from journalist/developers and gamers. They really don't get why we dislike the ending so much. Its not about the happy ending, is not even about complete closure: people just want something that makes sense and isn't filled with non-sensical logic, plot holes and inconstancies. I would have respected their "artistic integrity" if the writers would have respected it themselves. There is no "artistic integrity" in that ending. There is only plot holes.

[FemmeShep]

Shaun72 wrote...

FemmeShep wrote...

lol chill

I didn't read his reply where he said he didn't know.

No need to get bent out of shape. You act like we have a limited amount of questions we are allowed to ask. People have been asking their questions, and Geoff has come back later and replied in bulk. 

Since he was there in the final days of the game being made, I was just curious what he knew about how the actual ending was created and handled within their process. But you are right, based on what he said it seems he has no clue about the peer review process or whether the ending got input or not.

But I confirmed he said that earlier in the thread when I responded to you the first time. Why would I lie when you could just go back and check yourself?

And the second part of your question can be answered by going to Patrick Weekes' Twitter and looking at the responses on March 10.

k 

[jcmccorm]

Geoff,

I see that the project was running late. Would you say that the quality of the ending was directly impacted by a set limit on how much time/funding they were given to wrap up the project? Anything else you can share in that regard? Would you say that the BioWare team was put in a situation (with regards to producing the ending) that they would not have desired?

Modifié par jcmccorm, 25 mars 2012 - 04:28 .

[King Espi]

That notebook containing Mac Walters brilliant ideas for the ending was photoshopped right? You just needed some more material for your app so you photoshopped the notebook..

[Ghost of a Messiah]

Where can I get a straight answer from someone on the Bioware team about whether or not Indoctrination Theory is true? I need to know for sure so I can either get back to enjoying the series or move on with my life... Forgive my bluntness but I'm stuck here in limbo.

[bboynexus]

Uhhh, why are you asking Geoff that, Ghost?

[Ghost of a Messiah]

I didn't ask if he knew I asked if he could point me in the right direction.

[XXIceColdXX]

I understand why you want to know Ghost. I feel the same and just want an answer

[Ghost of a Messiah]

Thanks for understanding... I'm sorry for bothering you Geoff... I gotta find a more constructive way to occupy my mind until people start talking officially... For now I'll take solace in the fact no one has actually denied it yet.

[TanithAeyrs]

Mr. Keighley,

Just wanted to say I enjoyed the app. Read it on my Kindle so I missed the pics but it was interesting and informative.

Thanks for stopping by.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

Shaun72 wrote...

@Geoff: You can ignore all of the comments about the app being free or asking why you are charging for it. Those people are confusing you for a Bioware dev and not a journalist. They are actually talking about future ME DLC, not your app update. In other words.....many people seem to be allergic to READING THE OP.

That, or they just need to go to the center for kids who can't read good.

[AtreiyaN7]

Hi Geoff!

I just wanted to say that I enjoyed the app and thought that it was well done (I also have the Portal 2 Final Hours app and found it to be a good read). I was wondering what your impression was of the various characters' story arcs in ME3 (if you've played through with your own imported saves) - basically whether or not you found them emotionally compelling overall. For example, I thought Mordin's arc on Tuchanka was quite strong with an ending that was rather moving, and to me, the game seemed to have quite a few emotional highs and lows on that level.

Oh, and just one teensy thing, but I think "airplane at the hanger" needs to be changed to "airplane at the hangar" in the app (in the "The Letter on the Door" section, page 2) when you do a future update. My job makes me a bit OCD about this kind of thing, heh.

[noobcannon]

pavi132 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

you guys know this isn't really geoff keighley right?

Check his twitter. It's him.

ooooh snap

[Dr_Hello]

Ghost of a Messiah wrote...

Where can I get a straight answer from someone on the Bioware team about whether or not Indoctrination Theory is true? I need to know for sure so I can either get back to enjoying the series or move on with my life... Forgive my bluntness but I'm stuck here in limbo.

Your question is much valid.

The ending has put a lot of ME fans in a limbo.

[Tehzim]

I think you keep getting the same questions regarding the writing/review etc of the ending because fans refuse to believe that a group of people would sign off on an ending that has caused such rage and backlash.

I liked your Portal 2 app and this one as well (though reading the Kindle version on the cloud is just text). But as much as I feel bad for BioWare considering the shellacking they got, they have no one to blame but themselves.

I hope your update will have a happy ending, but don't be surprised if that chapter ends up being about the endings and the level of vitriol directed at its authors. Perhaps no ending could have lived up to what we expected, but this feels like they didn't even try.

Thanks for taking the time to talk to us.

Modifié par Tehzim, 25 mars 2012 - 07:31 .