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[Darpaek]

Down with the granny panties in video games, I say!!!  If I have to have "layers" on during my sex scenes, then I want boxers!

Banana Muffin wrote...

Since when is Thailand a European country?

Isn't it French or British or something?

[Banana Muffin]

Nuegen wrote...

Banana Muffin wrote...

Well where does this threat come from if I may ask?

Also it several scientific studies has pointed towards the fact that children who are exposed to a lot of violence become more violent themselves. And a society like USA that glorifies violence is more violent than a a society that does not. America has more violent crimes per capita than Sweden and a study also showed that american toddler where much more violent towards each other that swedish toddlers.

Correlation vs. Causation.  There are scientific studies pointing out correlation of violent children playing violent games.  Not violent games being the causation of children being more violent.
Thats like saying watching sports makes one play sports.  We all know thats not true.  People who like to watch sports, tend to watch sports.  Its scientific!

Less pirates = more violent storms.... correlation.  Sun, atmosphere, liquid, wind = more violent storms... causation.  Science is picky like that.

The same goes for anything.  Sex or violence in video games; all of it is just pandering to a certain demographic of the population that has a natural inclination to enjoy such things.  No child is going to be a monster for picking up a violent video game.... but a monster will more likely pick up a violent video game.  The same goes for the sexual aspect. 

What matters is that the child is taught how to deal with their emotions long before any game is introduced.

No, no, no, please don't resurrect those old posts!

They are no fun!

[Jisai]

IMPLIED sex, yes, ACTUAL DISPLAY of sex, no.

I also agree with the 'beasts' showed more skin than the cuddling did, which was great.

My favourite so far is the Desire Demoness... whomever voiced/wrote her lines and created her did a very good job, I wish there would have been more encounters like that.

[MerinTB]

Banana Muffin wrote...

Nuegen wrote...

Banana Muffin wrote...

Well where does this threat come from if I may ask?

Also it several scientific studies has pointed towards the fact that children who are exposed to a lot of violence become more violent themselves. And a society like USA that glorifies violence is more violent than a a society that does not. America has more violent crimes per capita than Sweden and a study also showed that american toddler where much more violent towards each other that swedish toddlers.

Correlation vs. Causation.  There are scientific studies pointing out correlation of violent children playing violent games.  Not violent games being the causation of children being more violent.
Thats like saying watching sports makes one play sports.  We all know thats not true.  People who like to watch sports, tend to watch sports.  Its scientific!

Less pirates = more violent storms.... correlation.  Sun, atmosphere, liquid, wind = more violent storms... causation.  Science is picky like that.

The same goes for anything.  Sex or violence in video games; all of it is just pandering to a certain demographic of the population that has a natural inclination to enjoy such things.  No child is going to be a monster for picking up a violent video game.... but a monster will more likely pick up a violent video game.  The same goes for the sexual aspect. 

What matters is that the child is taught how to deal with their emotions long before any game is introduced.

No, no, no, please don't resurrect those old posts!

They are no fun!

I like conversations that acknowledge science and fact.
Correlation != Causation.

Thank you, Nuegen.

Enchantment!

[Fluffykeith]

"The same goes for anything. Sex or violence in video games; all of it is just pandering to a certain demographic of the population that has a natural inclination to enjoy such things. No child is going to be a monster for picking up a violent video game.... but a monster will more likely pick up a violent video game. The same goes for the sexual aspect. "





Well put.

I play violent video games and like violent movies (but I can't stand torture-porn like Saw or Hostel) and I listen to Black and Death Metal, and have done since I was a teenager in the mid-90s...



...yet I have totally failed to become a hockey-mask wearing, chainsaw-weilding devil-worshiping psychopath.



Must try harder?

[BiowareFanatic]

Banana Muffin wrote...

Nuegen wrote...

Banana Muffin wrote...

Well where does this threat come from if I may ask?

Also it several scientific studies has pointed towards the fact that children who are exposed to a lot of violence become more violent themselves. And a society like USA that glorifies violence is more violent than a a society that does not. America has more violent crimes per capita than Sweden and a study also showed that american toddler where much more violent towards each other that swedish toddlers.

Correlation vs. Causation.  There are scientific studies pointing out correlation of violent children playing violent games.  Not violent games being the causation of children being more violent.
Thats like saying watching sports makes one play sports.  We all know thats not true.  People who like to watch sports, tend to watch sports.  Its scientific!

Less pirates = more violent storms.... correlation.  Sun, atmosphere, liquid, wind = more violent storms... causation.  Science is picky like that.

The same goes for anything.  Sex or violence in video games; all of it is just pandering to a certain demographic of the population that has a natural inclination to enjoy such things.  No child is going to be a monster for picking up a violent video game.... but a monster will more likely pick up a violent video game.  The same goes for the sexual aspect. 

What matters is that the child is taught how to deal with their emotions long before any game is introduced.

No, no, no, please don't resurrect those old posts!

They are no fun!

lol first of all if its pandering to those with who want sex in dragon age then bioware is doing something wrong because theres like 5 sec of kissing and making out lol. 
Theres really no need for it but the relationships and the scenes make the player more enveloped in the game, I mean if it was a sex game I demand more sex or at least some

[durasteel]

Creature 1 wrote...

I seem to have missed the graphic beheading, evisceration, and cannibalism, but I'm not done with the game yet.  

My characters don't spend any time at all covered in gore because I thought it looked more like they got between Jackson ****** and a canvas, so I turned it off. 

Well, if you turn off the gore, then I think you also turn off the finishing moves, and thus the graphic beheading and evisceration.  The cannibalism is mostly implied.  The Dark Roads have some disturbing moments in store for you.

First day they come, and catch everyone...

[montana_boy]

Magaloo wrote...

Banana Muffin wrote...

montana_boy wrote...

The romance (sex) feature in DAO is as about as tastefully done as can be.

I really don't agree. Wearing underwear while having sex is not tasteful, it's tacky.

Especially that kind of underwear.

Gee then I suppose the MS position is tacky/passe too?

[Banana Muffin]

MerinTB wrote...



I like conversations that acknowledge science and fact.

Correlation != Causation.



Thank you, Nuegen.



Enchantment!{smilie}

I know this and I actually don't believe that violent video games causes violence.

Still correlation is something and unless you can think of a plausible reason why exposure to violence would be correlated to increased violence it is not crazy to consider that it might be the cause.

When it comes to sex however there is no correlation in this case and if there is no correlation there certainly can't be any causation.

[Banana Muffin]

montana_boy wrote...

Magaloo wrote...

Banana Muffin wrote...

montana_boy wrote...

The romance (sex) feature in DAO is as about as tastefully done as can be.

I really don't agree. Wearing underwear while having sex is not tasteful, it's tacky.

Especially that kind of underwear.

Gee then I suppose the MS position is tacky/passe too?

What is the MS position?

[Darpaek]

Banana Muffin wrote...

What is the MS position?

Someone has to strap em down to a table and it involves a lot of twitching. 

[addiction21]

Fluffykeith wrote...

"The same goes for anything. Sex or violence in video games; all of it is just pandering to a certain demographic of the population that has a natural inclination to enjoy such things. No child is going to be a monster for picking up a violent video game.... but a monster will more likely pick up a violent video game. The same goes for the sexual aspect. "


Well put.
I play violent video games and like violent movies (but I can't stand torture-porn like Saw or Hostel) and I listen to Black and Death Metal, and have done since I was a teenager in the mid-90s...

...yet I have totally failed to become a hockey-mask wearing, chainsaw-weilding devil-worshiping psychopath.

Must try harder?

Yes you have failed. I expect in the next week to see some monsterlyy violent act commited and so we know it was you, use the blood of the fallen to smear the name Fluffykeith on a wall or something.  Maybe go down screaming that it was DAO's fault (all publicity is good publixity and I would not mind having Biowares pockets padded a little).
All kidding aside it is just silly. The "sexual" aspects of this game come to about 1%. The other 99% is murder and mayhem. 
What I find sad is something natural and one will have more experiance with in life is taboo but that murder and mayhem...    well hey its only some pixels right?

[jinix the younger]

Robert Crumb, an artist from the 60s, said he used to masturbate to pictures of Bugs Bunny and Bugs Bunny still pops up in his sexual fantasies.

.....

My only concern is the mixing of the two: Sex AND violence.

Have good old steamy sex adventures as DLC and separate from Blood and Gore games.

[durasteel]

Banana Muffin wrote...

What is the MS position?

Despite the absence of actual sex, you look at the Blue Screen of Death and you know that you are screwed.

[Darpaek]

WOW! That would be an amazing DLC. I could sooo totally see 6 months down the road a special "Date with Leli/Morrigan/Alistair" DLC outselling all of their previous DLC combined... LOL!

[Creature 1]

Banana Muffin wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

Banana Muffin wrote...

What country has a law about not insulting the royal family?

Thailand for one, and they're serious about it. 

Since when is Thailand a European country?

You asked what country, I told you.  If you want to know what European country, ask, "What European country . . . ?" 

Most of the world is not in Europe, you know. 

[Creature 1]

durasteel wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

I seem to have missed the graphic beheading, evisceration, and cannibalism, but I'm not done with the game yet.  

My characters don't spend any time at all covered in gore because I thought it looked more like they got between Jackson ****** and a canvas, so I turned it off. 

Well, if you turn off the gore, then I think you also turn off the finishing moves, and thus the graphic beheading and evisceration.  The cannibalism is mostly implied.  The Dark Roads have some disturbing moments in store for you.

First day they come, and catch everyone...

Really?  I'll turn it back on to see, but they've done some finishing moves.  Mostly it seems to be when they kill a boss and no one else is left standing, but they went into bullet time during combat for an ogre's death.  IIRC Alistair actually took damage after he killed a dragon because he had leaped on its head to stab it and fell off as it died.  I may be mistaken but I remember seeing that and thinking it was realistic to put that in.  Of course my characters also had dead sylvans fall smack on top of them and were fine. 

I'm in the Dark Roads now, some woman is saying creepy things as we wander the tunnels. . .

[Creature 1]

jinix the younger wrote...

Robert Crumb, an artist from the 60s, said he used to masturbate to pictures of Bugs Bunny and Bugs Bunny still pops up in his sexual fantasies.
.....
My only concern is the mixing of the two: Sex AND violence.
Have good old steamy sex adventures as DLC and separate from Blood and Gore games.

That is weird.  Now if it were Jessica Rabbit I could understand.  

[Creature 1]

Speaking of nudity, did anyone else find themselves wondering where werewolves keep their genitals?

[Shinji Ex]

There needs to be 3 times more sex in video games

[Targonis1]

One thing that many people don't seem to understand is that online porn is a lot more common, and anyone who plays ANY sort of game these days is going to have Internet access. Now, what makes more sense, that games are going to damage younger players with even token sexual references, or just the accidental exposure to hard core porn that just about EVERYONE online encounters, intended or not?



As for Bioware toning things down in "romances", has anyone thought for a moment that it was EA who forced it, rather than Bioware employees being worried?

[Dremorian]

Sex? What's that?

[ozenglish]

Dom_ wrote...

I think the people who still think it's bad are the same people who still believe that Video games are for Children only. I don't think it's going to get any better for awhile, not until the generations that is our parents die out and a generation more comfortable with video games and see them beyond just children's toys start to take positions of power and influence in our communities/governments/media etc

As a retailer, if I know a game is going to someone under the age limit set by the ERSB, then I refuse point blank to sell it to the parents.

Kids want the game, and parents don't do their jobs as parents to find out what is in it. So as soon as a parent see's their little Johnny or Jenny watching Lelianna and my female character for ex having sex, then they point the blame at the game desiginers. So to ease some of that pressure, I refuse to sell it to them.

Besides, if your kids haven't busted you having sex before the age of 7, then you either don't have it or your not having it with your significant other...

sorry... rant done.

[Magaloo]

Banana Muffin wrote...

I like you Magaloo, will you be my friend?

Well since we agree that burlap sack does not make good underwear ... yes!!!

[Sylixe]

exorzist wrote...

It really amuses me how, in this day and age, news of a sex scene in a
game can make the headlines. It amazes me further that some people
still see fit to complain about sex in computer games at all.

Why is sex in games bad? An editorial over at Inc Gamers discusses this particular question. A very interesting read, written by a woman.
Do you agree with the editor?

Check it out here.

Welcome to an america where liberal religious zealots who believe sex is bad but unchecked gratuitous violence is okay.