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[Sir Pounce-a-lot]

 I've finally decided to get DA2. I'll be importing my Dwarf Commoner (defended Redcliffe, mages, preserved ashes, Bhelen without anvil, ended werewolf curse, Alistair and Anora rule, Loghain spared, Morrigan's ritual, sided with Architect). Is there anything that I should know before my first DA2 playthrough?  Are there any experience and/or gold glitches?  Are there any common mistakes that I should know about?  Any bugs?  Thanks.

[caradoc2000]

Expect major changes from DAO gameplay. There are quite a few import glitches (most notably Nathaniel Howe). The game takes place in three acts and you should finish any side quests before moving from one act to another. They can't be completed afterwards.

[SuicidalBaby]

99% of your import will result in additional quests.
Taking "the loan" does nothing noticeable except allow you to spend all your gold in the first act.
For a gold guide, click the link in my signature.
For a tactic guide, click the link in my signature.
Complete every quest.
most bugs have been worked out.
The gangs at night always spawn more after you clear them, even after you get the note. Make sure to reload the zone to check for more groups before finishing the gang off.
Try to save your gold for the first act.  You should only buy tome/elixirs of techniques/ability.
To respec you will need the Black Emporium DLC.

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 25 mars 2012 - 01:33 .

[keesio74]

Expect major changes from DAO gameplay.

This. especially combat. Especailly if you are on a PC. I'm also doing my first play through after many many DA:O plays and the change in combat took the most adjustment. A lot of emphasis you placed in postioning like flanking and moving behind to backstab has been minimized in importance. planning out battles is less possible with spawns during combat. You rely more on pre-set tactics. I was someone who disabled all tactics in DA:O and micomanaged every fight and it was harder to to in DA2. That made combat harder for me here. I rip through nightmare in DA:O but am struggling through Hard in DA2.

Modifié par keesio74, 25 mars 2012 - 01:32 .

[SuicidalBaby]

I would suggest both of you look at my tactics guide. It breaks down everything so you can understand what the tactics do and how they are implemented as a synergy with each group member. That way if you do not want to simply copy someone else's tactics you will know how to write your own.

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 25 mars 2012 - 01:37 .

[frustratemyself]

Plan out what you want to do with your character. Decide if you want to play a damage dealer or more of a support role and have a look at the skills your character class has so you can get a bit of an idea early on of what you'd like to do with the build.
Having a look at some of the build guides can also help you get an idea of what works and what doesn't.
It's something that makes it easier for me.

[Sir Pounce-a-lot]

frustratemyself wrote...

Plan out what you want to do with your character. Decide if you want to play a damage dealer or more of a support role and have a look at the skills your character class has so you can get a bit of an idea early on of what you'd like to do with the build.
Having a look at some of the build guides can also help you get an idea of what works and what doesn't.
It's something that makes it easier for me.

I have it all planned out. In DA1, my main character was a Dwarven rogue, so in DA2, Hawke will be a Human warrior. When DA3 comes out, my main character will be an Elven mage. I'll have to check the builds out. Thanks.

BTW, I have a big question.  Is the game still beatable even if I don't buy any of the DLCs?  Also, it looks like there are a lot less specializations in DA2.  Why is that?

Modifié par Sir Pounce-a-lot, 25 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[Sir Pounce-a-lot]

greengoron89 wrote...

Try not to get bored. I never even finished the game because I found it so uninteresting.

Also, if you do manage to stay interested in the game long enough, play Legacy - it's the closest the game ever comes to being like DA:O. Just be ready to fork over $15 for the privilege of downloading and playing it.

OK.  I really just want to beat it so that I can have something to import to DA3 when it comes out.  BTW, how are specializations unlocked?

[nightscrawl]

Sir Pounce-a-lot wrote...

I have it all planned out.

My main suggestion, story-wise, is to just play the game normally, see what happens and to whom. Then after you've seen the end, do another play where you can plan everything down to the last detail and get a DA3 import you're happy with. Also, if you want some differences in the DA2 questing from your DAO import, look at this page for the list of DAO decisions and their DA2 results. Later on if you want some variety, you can do another DAO play with those things in mind.

The Dragon Age Wiki has a lot of great info, but some of the most helpful if you are going to try and meta-game the friendship/rivalry is to look at the quests and the companion pages since they tell you how they respond to everything.

My final suggestion is to stay away from the forums until you are done so you aren't contaminated by others' opinions.

Sir Pounce-a-lot wrote...

BTW, how are specializations unlocked?

In DA2 you get a spec point at level 7 and level 14, just like in DAO. Unlike DAO, all specs are available immediately; there is no hidden book or companion schmoozing you need to do beforehand.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 25 mars 2012 - 08:39 .

[Sir Pounce-a-lot]

So my Hawke can be a reaver without being a bad guy? Cool! I'll check those pages out nightscrawl.

[SuicidalBaby]

go into it as if DA2 is its own game, not a sequel, and you will be happier.
btw Legacy and MotA are $9.99 not $15, both are woth getting
avoid the weapon pack dlc
black emporium will let you respec and has a few choice items, expensive but good items

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 25 mars 2012 - 09:33 .

[cJohnOne]

I find that I have enough money to get a good bow or staff in both the first, second, and third acts so to me that's enough gold. Which Warrior are you going to be a two-hander or a sword and shield warrior? I don't know about what swords to get or where to get them but that's a good idea in my opinion.

[Great_Horn]

If you try a nightmare run (only possibility to have friendly fire with). Prepare yourself, especially before the end of Act 1.

[Bolt]

Choose whether you want to earn rivalry or friendship points with your companions early on. If you don't have maxed out rivalry or friendship with certain companions, they can turn against you during the final fight.

[Gilthas89]

First: I find mages are the easiest to play as, i stopped playing as mine because I accidentally sold the Champion Armor and then couldn't find it again (another tip, read the item before yous sell it) as that guy posted do most side quests, some are very profitable, and as that other guy said there are MAJOR changes in gameplay, the like the combat mechanics, you can now melee enemies with staves and bows and staves shoot much faster then in Origins. All around attacks are faster. If your a warrior (i just finished the game 10 mins ago as warrior) then as soon as you enter act 3 go for the champion set (high dragon: chest. Huan: boots/gloves, cant remember which he drops. As soon as you enter act three: boots/gloves again cant remember which one Huan gives and the helm you get from killing that mage you help earlier in the game when your in a cave and the templar is outside.) as it will save you much grief with enemies. Also if you can buff it up with the armor runes that give extra armor, my Warrior had some 980 (I could be mistaken, but it was a hell of alot, i had that shield you get from the chest in your mansion buffed with it and all my ammys, rings and belts had armor bonuses). It allowed me to do epic things which I dont want to spoil the ending scenarios for you.

[fritzywiggins]

 I recommend the following mods: 

Dragon Age 2 Import Fix: I missed seeing the correct response from my DAO char's romance, which wouldn't have happened if I had installed this first.  Highly recommended.

All items evolve mod: this one changes almost all items so that their stats "evolve" with level.  Install it especially if you'd like to select items for their aesthetics, instead of having to stop using that awesome-looking hammer because its stats just don't cut it anymore.  

Truffles Improved Texture Mod: it improves the detail of environmental and armor texture (like the official high-resolution texture mod, except it doesn't impact performance).  If you already have an awesome computer, I'd just use the official high res pack.

[DJ0000]

If you play on Nightmare, do not ever let a 2h warrior use any weapon talents in tactics, trust me activating them manually will be much less stressful.

[SuicidalBaby]

cJohnOne wrote...

I find that I have enough money to get a good bow or staff in both the first, second, and third acts so to me that's enough gold. Which Warrior are you going to be a two-hander or a sword and shield warrior? I don't know about what swords to get or where to get them but that's a good idea in my opinion.

Swords:
Act 1 for a warrior you will want Desmona's Blade from the Black Emporium DLC as it lasts well to the end of act 2.
Act 3 will lend itself to several other elemental 1 handed weapons. Glanvalis is a great lightning based 1 hander.
Shields:
Bulwark from Black Emporium is very handy with 3 rune slots and strong enough until you get the one from Avaline's personal quest.

Gilthas89 wrote...
Also if you can buff it up with the armor  runes that give extra armor, my Warrior had some 980 (I could be
mistaken, but it was a hell of alot, i had that shield you get from the chest in your mansion buffed with it and all my ammys, rings and belts had armor bonuses). It allowed me to do epic things which I dont want to spoil the ending scenarios for you.

Going to disagree with this statement.  Resistance runes carry far more value in almost all acts, especially spirit and lightning.  Rune of Fire for the High Dragon in Act 3.  But Rune of Fortune will be your primary rune for the duration of the game until near the end of act 3.
(Black Emporium DLC is requried for RoF)


Should also point out you can not swap weapons like you did in DA:O
Weapon Swap Sets will allow you to do it in DA2.  You will see it in your ability tree, simply drag and drop it to your bar.

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 25 mars 2012 - 05:25 .

[SuicidalBaby]

DJ0000 wrote...

If you play on Nightmare, do not ever let a 2h warrior use any weapon talents in tactics, trust me activating them manually will be much less stressful.

Like many things in the world, nothing is absolute.
I can agree with this to a degree as if the situation is controlled within the right party it can be used effectively.

example:
self: hp <10% : use Health Poultice
enemy: status: BRITTLE: Mighty Blow
ally: mana/stamina <25%: Rally
enemy: target at short range: Cleave
self: surrounded by 3 enemies: Taunt
self: surrounded by 3 enemies: activate: Lyrium Ghost
self: stamina <50%: activate: Bravery
self: stamina <25%: Bolster
enemy: attacking Anders: Attack
enemy: attacking Hawke: Attack
self: at least 1 enemy is alive: skip tactics
self: any: deactivate: Bravery
self: any: deactivate: Lyrium Ghost

Here, Fenris will only use the ability when another character has set up a Brittle target. In this manner all forms of tactics that will create such status can be similarly controlled and triggered at distinct moments, especially if it is a Mage PC triggering the event as the where, how, and when will be under total control of the player.

[Sir Pounce-a-lot]

  

All items evolve mod: this one changes almost all items so that their stats "evolve" with level.  Install it especially if you'd like to select items for their aesthetics, instead of having to stop using that awesome-looking hammer because its stats just don't cut it anymore.  

This one looks interesting.  How is it that weapons become useless when your stats change? 

DJ0000 wrote...

If you play on Nightmare, do not ever let a 2h warrior use any weapon talents in tactics, trust me activating them manually will be much less stressful.

I've always been a micromanager.  [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

BoltGypsy wrote...

Choose whether you want to earn rivalry or friendship points with your companions early on. If you don't have maxed out rivalry or friendship with certain companions, they can turn against you during the final fight.

Which ones will turn on you?  Is Isabella one of them?  Are you saying that rivalry is just as valuable as friendship?

[Sir Pounce-a-lot]

 

Modifié par Sir Pounce-a-lot, 26 mars 2012 - 02:52 .

[SuicidalBaby]

[quote]BoltGypsy wrote...

Choose whether you want to earn rivalry or friendship points with your companions early on. If you don't have maxed out rivalry or friendship with certain companions, they can turn against you during the final fight. [/quote]

Which ones will turn on you?  Is Isabella one of them?  Are you saying that rivalry is just as valuable as friendship?

[/quote]
Example:
Solidarity

Passive
Requires: Merrill Friendship
Striking out alone is never easy. Hawke's companionship has renewed Merrill's strength.

Blood of the First cost ratio: 1 health provides 1 additional mana

Outcast

Passive
Requires: Merrill Rivalry
Accepted nowhere, Merrill has learned that she can depend only on herself.

Damage resistance: +10%

If you are going to use Merrill as a Blood Mage Befriending her is the best choice as item conversion rates for blood magic have been nerfed by 75% from items.

See what each one does and plan what you want from that person.

Any Gifts you give someone will push them further along the path you have already gone down.
(if Merrill is +5 in to rivalry and you give her a gift, it will push her further into rivalry not swing toward friendship.)
(The same goes if shes into friendship +5 as any gift will make her more of your friend.)

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 26 mars 2012 - 03:07 .

[fritzywiggins]

Sir Pounce-a-lot wrote...
This one looks interesting.  How is it that weapons become useless when your stats change? 

A weapon you get at the beginning of the game may do "5 physical damage," while weapons you get late in the game might do around "40 physical damage."  Later in the game, if you were still using the weapons from earlier that do 5 damage, you'd be at a serious disadvantage.  What the 'all items evolve' mod does is make it so that all items do damage based on your level--the 5 physical damage weapon's base damage increases with each level so that by the end of the game, it will do 40 physical damage.  

I wish I had had this mod while playing as my mage.  A lot of the staves and robes in DA2 are absurdly conspicuous, and the more subtle outfits are few and far between.  

[Sir Pounce-a-lot]

Isn't weapon damage mainly determined by your strength and/or dexterity? In DA1, there really wasn't a huge difference between the weapons that you got early in the game and those that you got much later. In one of my playthroughs, my main characters went the entire game with two Darkspawn daggers.