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[Steel Dancer]

If you have to explain the ending, the ending didn't work! That's true of anything. Ugh.

[Dragoonlordz]

There is more trolling by the members of this thread than anything the OP did to be honest. I see the community has hit yet another all time high with regard to disdain for anything they do not agree with. Granted the OP did not come across as very reasonable or open minded but a lot of your responses scraped the bottom of the barrel in retaliation.

What a truly proud day to be a member of this community... *wipes away the tears of joy* <_<

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 25 mars 2012 - 02:33 .

[tyranolol]

You can have your own opinion, and if you are happy ok, gratz for you, i think indoctinatrion theory is the only thing that explains this ending, and YOU are the minoity, not the rest.

[Torrible]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

There is more trolling by the members of this thread than anything the OP did to be honest. I see the community has hit yet another all time high with regard to disdain for anything they do not agree with. Granted the OP did not come across as very reasonable or open minded but a lot of your responses scraped the bottom of the barrel in retaliation.

What a truly proud day to be a member of this community... *wipes away the tears of joy* <_<

You don't get it, irrelevant humour and meme pictures are the best forms of argument in any debate. Those who gave lengthy, well thought-out responses in the other thread were just wasting their time.

[noobcannon]

Evil_medved wrote...

The catalyst was a brilliant concept.

[sistersafetypin]

Can I just say... I love that Minority is capped. It makes me giggle every time I see it. Why? Because if we were a minority, there'd be no point for your thread

[Americ4nPunk]

I gotta hand it to Luzarius he sure knew which buttons to press to keep this thread alive

[Gibb_Shepard]

Dude, you don't even UNDERSTAND the ending. I've seen your posts. You're clueless.

[Americ4nPunk]

^^^.... Eh well ok then

It's not like everybody is essentially rehashing the same exact points when it comes to the endings.

1) False Advertisement
2) Lack of Variety
3) Previous Choices destroyed
4) Inconsistency with the tone
5) Plot holes

No I take it you mean I have to post something that has been well established within the internet already. Right?

Modifié par Americ4nPunk, 25 mars 2012 - 02:58 .

[HenchxNarf]

corkey sweet wrote...

its actually the majority NOT a minority. this is why bioware is considering changing it. they wouldn't bother if it was a minority

Well.. they aren't changing anything. They're explaining it because the lot didn't understand it.

And you are a minority.

[Mendelevosa]

[yahtzo]

HenchxNarf wrote...

corkey sweet wrote...

its actually the majority NOT a minority. this is why bioware is considering changing it. they wouldn't bother if it was a minority

Well.. they aren't changing anything. They're explaining it because the lot didn't understand it.

And you are a minority.

The lot of us don't understand how our squad members are able to teleport and come out squeeky clean after being nailed by Harbingers Laser?  The lot of us don't understand why Shepard would listen to some obviously Reaper influenced little brat?

Sorry but you are in the minority here buddy.

[SandSkorpion]

The OP uses the same brash tactics the "movement" uses..good job on leveling the playing field. With that said...since both sides push their opinions as fact, I will state with 100% certainty that everyone posting here are trolls.

[pharsti]

Your logic has too many problems to go into

But ill ask this, why would anyone reload?
Seeing as to all youre left with, no matter how you played, what kind of person your Shepard was the ending is just dull and provides no closure or any insight into the outcome.

There isnt even a reason to replay the game, theres even less to reload.

[The Night Mammoth]

HenchxNarf wrote...

corkey sweet wrote...

its actually the majority NOT a minority. this is why bioware is considering changing it. they wouldn't bother if it was a minority

Well.. they aren't changing anything. They're explaining it because the lot didn't understand it.

It has nothing to do with understanding it. Reaching that point requires an insane amount of speculation, conventional stories should never end like that, and this is without the other problems. 

And you are a minority.

Nobody can really prove either way.

[GrimIntent89]

I'm sorry Luzarious, but your opinions on mass effect are INCREDIBLY close minded and biased. I watched your live stream when you beat the game and I could already tell you don't pay attention as much as you claim to. Not to mention you're not as big of a fan of Mass Effect as you think you are if you honestly didn't notice the numerous GAPING plotholes in ME3. By the sounds of it, you must be really religious because the way you insult people SCREAMS i'm a close-minded religous nut. There is no one theme in the Mass Effect trilogy. The struggle between organics and synthetics is one of them, but certainly not the main theme. You may not agree with us "ending haters", but don't you DARE insult my intelligence and claim to be a bigger fan just because you THINK you're a better role-player.

Modifié par GrimIntent89, 25 mars 2012 - 03:06 .

[babachewie]

Well this is pointless. Mainly cause they aren't changing it. They just said their DLC is gonna shine some light on whats already been established.

[Legendaryred]

I like how the first reply was "No."

[wicked_being]

Okay move along people, nothing to see here. No use talking to a narrow-minded, biased and condescending person. Just let this thread die.

Modifié par wicked_being, 25 mars 2012 - 03:13 .

[Cyberfrog81]

Quoth the Javik: "Amusing."

Luzarius wrote...

I was a huge fan of the movie Contact (7.3 imdb). 

FACT: Contact is crap. Not just the ending, but just about everything about it. It sure as heck isn't deep.

Heh.

Modifié par Cyberfrog81, 25 mars 2012 - 03:19 .

[Blind2Society]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

No.

This

[Dragoonlordz]

If they banned for 48 hours everyone who has trolled in this thread and counter trolled, these forums would have a couple days of blissful peace and quiet for a change.

[TheHoneyRuns]

Luzarius wrote...

Star Child (Catalyst)

The catalyst was a brilliant concept. I was a huge fan of the movie Contact (7.3 imdb).  Those three choices were the most epic choices I've seen in a sci-fi game.  If you were shocked and didn't understand what happened in that scene then it PROVES you don't understand the main theme of ME. 

I don't have a problem with the minority of, ah, sorry, majority of what you said, OP, even if you are acting like an elitist ******.

In fact, I agree with quite a bit of it. I chose synthesis, and I'm going to stick with it. Had planned stick with whatever ending I got from the start. As you say, stick with the character you've built.

But this:

Those three choices were the most epic choices I've seen in a sci-fi game.

is a very silly thing to say. You mean it's the three most epic choices you're seeing for the second time, right? That is what you mean, isn't it? Deus Ex. C'mon, even if you never played it, you must know by now from the vast minority, ugh, excuse me, majority (I'm sorry, I don't know why I keep doing that) of people that did play it.

They're the exact same choices. And while in Deus Ex that made perfect sense because they were clearly defined and central to the themes present from the very beginning of the game, in ME3 they made almost no sense at all.

The catalyst being a child made no sense at all. You're either trying to rile people up on purpose by being obtuse or you're just... no, there is no other option. You're being obtuse. Even people who fully support the ending are more than willing to admit that merging with synthetics has not been a major philosiphical thread in the trilogy. At all.

If it had been, then the outcry against this ending would not have been so loud and Bioware would not have had to say anything to appease or console the angry, unsatisfied majority of players. Oh, sorry, I meant minority.

Like you said.

[GoblinSapper]

The point, you missed it

[hex23]

Luzarius wrote...

Reloading a different ending PROVES you're playing an indecisive shepard

Anyone who reloads and chooses a different ending doesn't deserve to be heard in my controversial opinion. These types of people are not true mass effect fans, just meta gamers who have no idea what they're doing and have no idea who their shepard is.

* FACT: By reloading and choosing a different ending it shows you don't understand your shepard
* FACT: It shows you're indecisive
* FACT: You pick options based upon how you feel instead of adhereing to your characters personality
* FACT: It shows you didn't understand how important the organic vs synthetic theme was in the ME series

If you actually reloaded just to see a different ending then you have failed your character.  But don't worry, you can redeem yourself. Go back to ME1 and restart a new character, pick a roleplaying ruleset for shep and stick to it. Then when you get to the end of ME3 pick the option that makes the most sense and leave it there.  Does everything fall into place?

(Ok wait, was the normandy part confusing? Yes, I agree.  How did Shep end up back on earth? Yes, confusing. But other than that everything was done very well imo).

You can't be that smart if you expected 16 completely different endings.

Every human is capable of "pattern detection". It's a very simple concept.

ME1 - One Ending
ME2 - Two Endings with slight color change for destroy or save collector base.
ME3 - Three Endings with slight color change and different video.

* Endings in which you fail don't count since you let your shepard down. If your ems score was low that's your own fault for skipping dialogue and failing basic language comprehension. If you don't have the ability to compare,  contrast and comprehend that is your own fault.
* But in me2 if one companion survived and another didn't, it makes it a different ending right? NO, WRONG!

Who would actually expect 16 completely different endings? It just goes to show how much you don't understand Bioware and you fail as a fan. YOU LET BIOWARE DOWN or maybe you didnt' play ME1 & ME2 in which you fail again.

Expecting a happy ending?

You obviously missed the boat. Do you know what a reaper is? Do you realize how old and powerful it is? Did you really think you'd get a happy ending? Did you skip all the dialogue? 

Do you know what this thing is? It's a reaper, it's sole purpose is to destroy and harvest advanced civiliations. Did you think you'd seriously come out of this alive? Have you seen earth? Did you see what happen to the other planets?



You had your happy ending in ME1 & ME2 and now it's time to face the reality of how powerful the reapers were. EMBRACE IMMERSION OR UNINSTALL THE GAME.

Indoctrination Theory

The problem with this is we don't get to see how commander shep ended the reaper threat.  This means that if we want the true and proper ending we're entitled to, we may have to pay $10.00 ..... The backlash from this could make everything worse. Do you really think Bioware would do this?  It would be unethical to introduce the true ending to a game in the form of DLC and charge people money for it.  When you buy a game you should be entitled to the actual ending like ME1, ME2, DAO, KOTOR, DA2, etc.

Star Child (Catalyst)

The catalyst was a brilliant concept. I was a huge fan of the movie Contact (7.3 imdb).  Those three choices were the most epic choices I've seen in a sci-fi game.  If you were shocked and didn't understand what happened in that scene then it PROVES you don't understand the main theme of ME. 

ME for me was all about organics, synthetics and all the controversery that comes with it.  Life creating life? Is that an acceptable concept? Is it blasphemous? Are the reapers an abomination (like anderson said)?  Should they be controlled (Understanding TIM). Should there be unity? Is Nanotechnology the future? Should people always be entitled to their free will?

I thought it was brilliant and if you didn't understand then you FAIL. The proof is if you reloaded and chose a different ending. If you did that, it PROVES that you failed to understand Shepard and the Mass Effect Universe. Now go uninstall the game, you don't deserve it.

FACT: The proof that you fail is if you reloaded and chose a different ending due to you failing to understand Commander Shepard and the main Mass Effect theme (organics & synthetics).

(If you didn't reload and stayed true to your first choice at the end, much love and respect goes to you my friend!)

Luzarius
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