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Bioware, don't change the ending, just provide explanation and closure. Don't listen to the "MINORITY".


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I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority (although I wouldn't be surprised if the split was very close on this one). The ending summarized all the games concepts, and the whole catalyst portion seemed to be the only way to resolve/explain the situation, although I still firmly believe it could have been summarized by Harbinger's core or something to that effect or TIM could explain the options somehow, as to avoid some of the plot holes this concept introduced. Regardless we all knew some sort of reaper core/control center/theme would have been in ME3, it was needed, because the Reapers are indestructible conventionally on the large scale.

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The op needs to try harder

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ZiegenkonigIII wrote...

Baronesa wrote...

Are you missing a "checkmate" somewhere?


Lol at this.

Also, someone earlier posted that just because you start a sentence with Fact: doesnt make it one.

Fact: Starting a sentence with Fact does not make it a fact

Makes about as much sense as the catalyst.


Fact: This is not a fact.

See what I did there? See? See- Never mind.

Seriously though, this pseudo-intellectual garbage is intended to insult people's intelligence, and the OP is nothing more than an EA Troll.

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UndeadTRex wrote...

Huge plot holes = Brilliance?
Also, how am I supposed to choose an ending that fits my Shepard's personality when he wouldn't accept any of them and would instead argue.


Yet you played all 3 games with this type of shepard and never had an issue with the dialogue options until the end of ME3? yeah right lol

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oh a troll topic how fun

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The biggest issue with Catalyst, regardless of whether you liked the character or not, is that it destroys the entire plot of ME1.

With the Catalyst in the story, it doesn't make sense why a Reaper vanguard was required or why the Catalyst couldn't indoctrinate everyone on the Citadel, This is what happens when you pull something out of your butt at the last minute.

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PrussianBlue wrote...


It wasnt a brilliant concept at all. I am a huge fan of the movie In Bruges (8.0 imdb). I didn´t like the three choices we were given and even the ending of the phantom menace was better than any of those. Anyway. Why were you refering to Contact? And why did you tell us the imdb score? That was totally out of context like me telling you guys I love in Bruges (great movie btw, look it up).

Still, you are in the minority. Also. I knew who my Shepard was. But there was no ending supporting his personality in the end, so I had to go with something that sucked totally to me and him and started hoping for another ending.


Lol, In Bruges is great. I love understated dark comedies.

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fafnir magnus

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your use of minority makes you wrong, as you don't cite any substantive polls about that nice little lead in.

Bioware is beholden to EA, which has no ethical code unless they're legally challenged and lose. That's why I don't resent the guy who went to the FTC. The real enemy of the fans here isn't bioware, it's EA and their game design policy. EA doesn't understand fan outrage, it understands bottom lines. Legal challenged and FTC complaints can directly impact their bottom line and investor confidence, which is why its the most effective means of protest over poor products.

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We are all ME fans, because we care about the ME universe, we care about the characters and we have spent a lot of money for ME. The reason we don't like the ending is because it was not worthy of the series, and characters we all love. So don't try to tell us that we are not true fans because we don't play or think like you do. You FAIL to understand what a true fan is all about

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DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority.


i agree although as the old saying goes, the truth hurts. BSN is the only place I know that is so full of people who don't want to learn, don't want to listen, even with facts they can't figure out simple math, ask stupid questions, can't understand simple concepts. Its sad, because there was a time here where everyone was intelligent, everyone had respect for eachother, and the only trolling or insults were people correcting eachother's spelling.

Since consoles man... BSN went down.. I bet you if there was a survey a majority of the minorities bought this game on the 360

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Fact: we are the majority

Hold the line

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No..... just no....

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Dridengx wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority.


i agree although as the old saying goes, the truth hurts. BSN is the only place I know that is so full of people who don't want to learn, don't want to listen, even with facts they can't figure out simple math, ask stupid questions, can't understand simple concepts. Its sad, because there was a time here where everyone was intelligent, everyone had respect for eachother, and the only trolling or insults were people correcting eachother's spelling.

Since consoles man... BSN went down.. I bet you if there was a survey a majority of the minorities bought this game on the 360


Whatever it is you're smoking, I want some.

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Even though there are a lot of overwhelming majorities opposed to the ending on numerous gaming sites, I think it is safe to assume, that more likely those discontent would put greater interest in media coverage about the degree of failure of the ME 3 ending.

BUT, as long as there is not sufficient, or any data, indicating a majority on the other side, I would not feel bold enough to declare the Retake people a minority.

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Starchild=brilliant. That's just nuts. Sorry i spotted the crappy railroaded ending when Shep accepted nutty star child nonsense logic and his assertion that all endings destroy relays bs.

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Starting a conversation by slinging insults and spouting condescending gibberish isn't going to get people to listen to you.

Playing the game a certain way doesn't make you more or less of a Mass Effect fan. Claiming it does makes you an idiot though.

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Wow, you are the most condescending and arrogant person I have ever seen, Dridengx.

I understand the ending of this game to its absolute fullest.

Guess what?

It's still hilariously bad. Your facts* aren't going to change my mind.


Emphasis - I've never seen you bring any forward.

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I think I was just trolled?

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Dridengx wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority.


i agree although as the old saying goes, the truth hurts. BSN is the only place I know that is so full of people who don't want to learn, don't want to listen, even with facts they can't figure out simple math, ask stupid questions, can't understand simple concepts. Its sad, because there was a time here where everyone was intelligent, everyone had respect for eachother, and the only trolling or insults were people correcting eachother's spelling.

Since consoles man... BSN went down.. I bet you if there was a survey a majority of the minorities bought this game on the 360


Please don't turn this into a console wars. Because if you do, I'll have to remind you that Mass Effect originally was developed as an Xbox exclusive title. For a long time, Mass Effect was only available on the Xbox360.

As a true sci-fi fan ans a true Mass Effect fan, I bought every single Mass Effect game on release, including ME1, which was released first on Xbox as an Xbox-exclusive. That's why I play Mass Effect on Xbox (and also because I prefer console-gaming).

Anyway, being a PC gamer doesn't make you better than the rest. Just saying.

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AwesomeDudex64

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Okay Hitler you're right and we're wrong.

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I think it kinda proves the opposite of what you are saying OP. You clearly are out of touch with the Mass Effect world if you think that 99% of Shepards created worldwide would just lay down and die so to speak after hearing the pathetic excuse for an argument the catalyst gives. I know for sure my Shepard wouldn't have taken his explanation over a grain of salt (too bad he wasn't given any option whatsoever t stay in character), and so i propose that YOU are indecisive and don't understand YOUR CHARACTER at all.

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Nah, your arguments are stupid and so are you. They should change the ending because it's nonsensical and thematically distinct from the rest of the trilogy (including 90% of ME3).

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Dridengx wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority.


i agree although as the old saying goes, the truth hurts. BSN is the only place I know that is so full of people who don't want to learn, don't want to listen, even with facts they can't figure out simple math, ask stupid questions, can't understand simple concepts. Its sad, because there was a time here where everyone was intelligent, everyone had respect for eachother, and the only trolling or insults were people correcting eachother's spelling.

Since consoles man... BSN went down.. I bet you if there was a survey a majority of the minorities bought this game on the 360


Sorry to disappoint you there, but I've met plenty of other boards where the majority hates the endings. escapist for example.
Most of them don't bother with the BSN, because they don't see themselves as BioWare fans.
There has also been a huge outrage about the stupidity of the ending on the germena P&P RPG Board I frequent. And they are all GM's - experts in storytelling.

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Myrmedus wrote...

The biggest issue with Catalyst, regardless of whether you liked the character or not, is that it destroys the entire plot of ME1.

With the Catalyst in the story, it doesn't make sense why a Reaper vanguard was required or why the Catalyst couldn't indoctrinate everyone on the Citadel, This is what happens when you pull something out of your butt at the last minute.

Not neccesairly. IMO maybe the Catalyst couldn't reveal itself till this moment? It needs the reapers here to maintain control.

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Yeah screw those people who played the game again and bought DLC the second time through.

Screw them!