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[Spectre-00N7]

Luzarius wrote...

* FACT: You pick options based upon how you feel instead of adhereing to your characters personality

The ending didn't give me the choice to argue with the catalyst and broke my character's personality.  Do you understand why I don't like the ending now?

[michael99887766]

Dridengx wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority.

i agree although as the old saying goes, the truth hurts. BSN is the only place I know that is so full of people who don't want to learn, don't want to listen, even with facts they can't figure out simple math, ask stupid questions, can't understand simple concepts. Its sad, because there was a time here where everyone was intelligent, everyone had respect for eachother, and the only trolling or insults were people correcting eachother's spelling.

Since consoles man... BSN went down.. I bet you if there was a survey a majority of the minorities bought this game on the 360

Seriously, have you actually read the arguments put forward against the ending? Like everywhere this forum has its share of trolls, but there are thousands of posts on here which argue against the poor conclusion to this series and are unequivocally sensible, well-articulated and intelligent. People like the person who wrote "musings of a screenwriter" - and that's just one tiny example of a great many - do not fall under any of the negative stereotypes you have complained about.

Rather ironically, while you attack others for their supposed failure to understand stuff, you yourself employ ad hominems and flawed logic (how the hell do you conclude that the 85%+ ending-disapproval rating we've seen on BSN and polls elsewhere equates to a minority?).

Modifié par michael99887766, 25 mars 2012 - 12:05 .

[Motherlander]

I am sorry but I don't really respect the OP's positions.

He/she is being dogmatic about how any individual should play the game. This is contrary to Bioware's philosophy in that they introduced three different ways to play the game.

Just because the OP has a dogmatic view of how a game should be played, does not mean that this should be accepted as valid.

In the end, if someone has paid money for the game, they can play the game anyway they want and experience all three endings if they want. That is their right as a consumer and indeed a fan, because a true fan would want to know what alternative endings exist so that they can aim for that ending in future playthroughsif they find it appealing for a particular Shepard.

Personally, I reloaded the ending because I wanted to confirm that the eaching ending really was as bad as the negative criticisms suggested. And yes i agree with the naysayers completely.

In fact the destroy option is the only one it makes sense. But it doesn't bring me any real satisfaction because it provides no closure and does not make me feel good.

In the end, we do not want a new ending. We wnat an alternative ending. These are two very different things.

[michael99887766]

Dridengx wrote...

UndeadTRex wrote...

Huge plot holes = Brilliance?
Also, how am I supposed to choose an ending that fits my Shepard's personality when he wouldn't accept any of them and would instead argue.

Yet you played all 3 games with this type of shepard and never had an issue with the dialogue options until the end of ME3? yeah right lol

Never before in the series has the issue at hand been so massively important, and never before have the options been quite so constricting.

I guess it's just another irony that you and the OP keep telling us all that we aren't being "true to our Shepards" and yet also that we can't feel angry that we are forced into picking an option at the end which doesn't fit in the slightest with the character we've created.

[TheMerchantMan]

I rarely call this, but the tone, wording and inflammatory title makes me think:

Troll.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Machazareel wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority.

i agree although as the old saying goes, the truth hurts. BSN is the only place I know that is so full of people who don't want to learn, don't want to listen, even with facts they can't figure out simple math, ask stupid questions, can't understand simple concepts. Its sad, because there was a time here where everyone was intelligent, everyone had respect for eachother, and the only trolling or insults were people correcting eachother's spelling.

Since consoles man... BSN went down.. I bet you if there was a survey a majority of the minorities bought this game on the 360

Whatever it is you're smoking, I want some.

I second this.

[Shepard108278]

michael99887766 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority.

i agree although as the old saying goes, the truth hurts. BSN is the only place I know that is so full of people who don't want to learn, don't want to listen, even with facts they can't figure out simple math, ask stupid questions, can't understand simple concepts. Its sad, because there was a time here where everyone was intelligent, everyone had respect for eachother, and the only trolling or insults were people correcting eachother's spelling.

Since consoles man... BSN went down.. I bet you if there was a survey a majority of the minorities bought this game on the 360

Seriously, have you actually read the arguments put forward against the ending? Like everywhere this forum has its share of trolls, but there are thousands of posts on here which argue against the poor conclusion to this series and are unequivocally sensible, well-articulated and intelligent. People like the person who wrote "musings of a screenwriter" - and that's just one tiny example of a great many - do not fall under any of the negative stereotypes you have complained about.

Rather ironically, while you attack others for their supposed failure to understand stuff, you yourself employ ad hominems and flawed logic (how the hell do you conclude that the 85%+ ending-disapproval rating we've seen on BSN and polls elsewhere equates to a minority?).

With this I agree. I like the ending but I know alot don't and I respect that and the movement.  I'm glad Bioware is listening and planning on something.

[Iron Spetsnaz]

AwesomeDudex64 wrote...

Okay Hitler you're right and we're wrong.

It's official, this thread is now no longer salvagable

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Iron Spetsnaz wrote...

AwesomeDudex64 wrote...

Okay Hitler you're right and we're wrong.

It's official, this thread is now no longer salvagable

Let's be honest though: given the premise, was there ever much hope to begin with?

[XqctaX]

i just reported this for what it is. harrasment and trolling. and im out of here.<3

Modifié par XqctaX, 25 mars 2012 - 12:13 .

[Johnnycide]

Luzarius wrote...

* FACT: By reloading and choosing a different ending it shows you don't understand your shepard
* FACT: It shows you're indecisive
* FACT: You pick options based upon how you feel instead of adhereing to your characters personality
* FACT: It shows you didn't understand how important the organic vs synthetic theme was in the ME series

I don't understand my Shepard? So I don't understand my own motivations or convictions that I took and applied to my character? Because I reload and chose a different ending to see if there was something wrong? Sounds legit.

Ok, I'll admit I was indecisive, it was a momentary weakness when I couldn't decide what color explosion I wanted to see.

So if I projected my own personality onto my character, my own feelings are then invalidated? See response to 1.

Organic v. Synthetics was never the theme of ME.  See Quarian-Geth peace or EDI.

[Reptilian Rob]

Evil_medved wrote...

The catalyst was a brilliant concept.

[zarnk567]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

Machazareel wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority.

i agree although as the old saying goes, the truth hurts. BSN is the only place I know that is so full of people who don't want to learn, don't want to listen, even with facts they can't figure out simple math, ask stupid questions, can't understand simple concepts. Its sad, because there was a time here where everyone was intelligent, everyone had respect for eachother, and the only trolling or insults were people correcting eachother's spelling.

Since consoles man... BSN went down.. I bet you if there was a survey a majority of the minorities bought this game on the 360

Whatever it is you're smoking, I want some.

I second this.

I want some too

[Shepard Wins]

Stop bumping the troll thread. Oh wait I just did. Damn it.

[graciegrace]

OP must have failed English in high school or something, his/her grasp of themes and writing are definitely not to grade level with the rating on the game...

[luzburg]

im not convinsed

[Spanking Machine]

More explanation won't make the ending any better. I understand the ending, but I just think it's bad. If you are going to make organics vs synthetics the hinge that the conclusion of the series revolves on, there needed to be more of a setup for it in the earlier parts of the story. As it stands it just switched up the entire story at the last minute and makes the conclusion seem nonsensical.

[michael99887766]

Shepard108278 wrote...

michael99887766 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority.

i agree although as the old saying goes, the truth hurts. BSN is the only place I know that is so full of people who don't want to learn, don't want to listen, even with facts they can't figure out simple math, ask stupid questions, can't understand simple concepts. Its sad, because there was a time here where everyone was intelligent, everyone had respect for eachother, and the only trolling or insults were people correcting eachother's spelling.

Since consoles man... BSN went down.. I bet you if there was a survey a majority of the minorities bought this game on the 360

Seriously, have you actually read the arguments put forward against the ending? Like everywhere this forum has its share of trolls, but there are thousands of posts on here which argue against the poor conclusion to this series and are unequivocally sensible, well-articulated and intelligent. People like the person who wrote "musings of a screenwriter" - and that's just one tiny example of a great many - do not fall under any of the negative stereotypes you have complained about.

Rather ironically, while you attack others for their supposed failure to understand stuff, you yourself employ ad hominems and flawed logic (how the hell do you conclude that the 85%+ ending-disapproval rating we've seen on BSN and polls elsewhere equates to a minority?).

With this I agree. I like the ending but I know alot don't and I respect that and the movement.  I'm glad Bioware is listening and planning on something.

Wisdom at last. If there's a decent update for the ending, those who liked the original one can stick with it, and those who didn't can download the DLC. Everyone's a winner.

[nevar00]

Bioware change the ending, don't listen to this idiot. You really don't want to be saddled with this mess of plot holes, bad writing and lies for the rest of your time, do you?

[FRancium]

my Shepard always treated others as equals, whatever their background, race, profession, etc. He believed in calm reasoning and that differences even wars can be in fact settled. In the first 2.98 games he was pretty consistent in influencing others, brokering peace, and "doing the morally right things" through conversation. Even if hard choices had to be made, it was always after investigating all options and consequences.

This was not an option at all in the end. My Shepard suddenly fell out of character for 5 minutes.

I understand my Shepard as well as you for yours. I'm happy you got your ending, but will respectfully voice my dissatisfaction.

[Dominator24]

Fact: your in the minority OP.

[Arathon]

For gods sake you really try
hard to get flamed?
Please stop insulting us with this
"Minority" thing. If we were a so caled
minority they wouldnt even bother...

Catalyst a awesome idea and the endings great?
Really you cant be very long in the gaming "buisness"
otherwise you would recognise that the whole ending was
a ripoff of the original Deus Ex and the prequel.

Ah why do i even bother with talking to a troll...

[Shepard108278]

michael99887766 wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...

michael99887766 wrote...

Dridengx wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I agree with this, the ending is fine, and the majority seem to be accepting, the BSN is just, as always the loud minority.

i agree although as the old saying goes, the truth hurts. BSN is the only place I know that is so full of people who don't want to learn, don't want to listen, even with facts they can't figure out simple math, ask stupid questions, can't understand simple concepts. Its sad, because there was a time here where everyone was intelligent, everyone had respect for eachother, and the only trolling or insults were people correcting eachother's spelling.

Since consoles man... BSN went down.. I bet you if there was a survey a majority of the minorities bought this game on the 360

Seriously, have you actually read the arguments put forward against the ending? Like everywhere this forum has its share of trolls, but there are thousands of posts on here which argue against the poor conclusion to this series and are unequivocally sensible, well-articulated and intelligent. People like the person who wrote "musings of a screenwriter" - and that's just one tiny example of a great many - do not fall under any of the negative stereotypes you have complained about.

Rather ironically, while you attack others for their supposed failure to understand stuff, you yourself employ ad hominems and flawed logic (how the hell do you conclude that the 85%+ ending-disapproval rating we've seen on BSN and polls elsewhere equates to a minority?).

With this I agree. I like the ending but I know alot don't and I respect that and the movement.  I'm glad Bioware is listening and planning on something.

Wisdom at last. If there's a decent update for the ending, those who liked the original one can stick with it, and those who didn't can download the DLC. Everyone's a winner.

Thanks for the kind words.

[Motherlander]

I actually chose the wrong ending at first. I was not quite paying atttention to star boy's explanations. So I wnet straight ahead which was clealry Bioware's default option and to my horror I accidentailly picked Synthesis. So naturally I had to reload and pick destroy in the red zone.

[meteng]

Bioware, please do change the ending AND provide explanation and closure.

I just played the Rannoch missions again and am staggered by the ending in comparison to this beautifully crafted plot arc. Making peace between the Geth and Quarians, Legion's death and resettling Rannoch - just brilliant.

If this scene was done 'ending style' Legion would have died anyway and Rannoch would probably have exploded.

Modifié par meteng, 25 mars 2012 - 12:41 .