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[Kylie Nightbreeze]

I love that BioWare is listening to us, but I think that those of us that don't believe in the Indoctronization theory need to stand up, before our favorite game is destroyed by an ending we don't want. I mean how many of us are there? Since BioWare listens to these forms and it seems to be drowning in this Indoc Theory we may be given that without our voice being heard right?

Modifié par Kylie Nightbreeze, 24 mars 2012 - 11:25 .

[petipas4141]

i think everyone who dislikes the ending should just stand together

intended ending = very poor

indoctrination = incomplete game

the one thing everyone can agree on is that we do not like the endings. Thus, we should just agree to disagree.

[Kylie Nightbreeze]

I agree with you, and having the Indoc Theory be an incomplete ending is a great idea, and what I hope it turns into.

[Zix13]

indoctrination theory was made before bioware made it clear that the ending was in fact intended to be the ending. Now it's just a way for them to fix their epic mistake. It's not a matter of "believing it" now.

[Kylie Nightbreeze]

But the Indoc theory creates even more holes than it solves, so it is no better.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Kylie Nightbreeze wrote...

I love that BioWare is listening to us, but I think that those of us that don't believe in the Indoctronization theory need to stand up, before our favorite game is destroyed by an ending we don't want. I mean how many of us are there? Since BioWare listens to these forms and it seems to be drowning in this Indoc Theory we may be given that without our voice being heard right?

I don't see that it matters either it is true and bioware has been trolling us or its not true

[sniper1250]

I think those of us that don't believe in the Indoctrination theory should puzzle out how everything actually went down. If there is a counter theory, they will have two theories to decide between, so they'll choose neither. Pyrrhic victories for everyone!

PS: I don't mean that as condescending or antagonistic, I just really don't like the idea that the indoctrination theory is true and I paid 80$ plus shipping for a collector's edition end to a trilogy that didn't actually end.

[Darknessfalls23]

I really doubt they are going to implement it unless it was their plan in the first place...

[Zix13]

If that's your opinion, you probably don't understand indoc theory. What hole does it create?

[Penitent]

Kylie Nightbreeze wrote...

I love that BioWare is listening to us, but I think that those of us that don't believe in the Indoctronization theory need to stand up, before our favorite game is destroyed by an ending we don't want. I mean how many of us are there? Since BioWare listens to these forms and it seems to be drowning in this Indoc Theory we may be given that without our voice being heard right?

http://social.biowar...4081/4#10562768

[spartan5127]

Zix13 wrote...

indoctrination theory was made before bioware made it clear that the ending was in fact intended to be the ending. Now it's just a way for them to fix their epic mistake. It's not a matter of "believing it" now.

Exactly.  Indoc theory succeeds in what is was trying to do, which is to explain these terrible endings in a way that made them less terible.  There is nothing to believe.  The only thing that can be believed in is that bioware intended for the indoc theory, which I think at this point there is no disputing that they did not intend it.  

[czombie]

The only thing I don't like about indoctrination theory is that it's such an obvious way to erase the bad ending that it's been discussed on an internet forum ad nauseum for weeks. I would prefer to be surprised by how BioWare decides to change the ending.

[Penitent]

Indoctrination Theory is the worst thing to happen to Mass Effect since the Ending of Mass Effect.

And that's saying a lot.

[Tiax Rules All]

Kylie Nightbreeze wrote...

But the Indoc theory creates even more holes than it solves, so it is no better.

no it doesn't it is still thier best option going forward.

[Giguelingueling]

I don't believe in the ID theory.

But I want them to use it so they can get rid of all the plots holes

[Verhalthur]

I'm one of the people who likes the endings and was generally impressed about the thought put into the indoctrination theory.

That being said, there doesn't need to be a "resistance" against everything. The indoctrination theory is not currently a movement fighting to get officially sanctioned, it is simply a theory being discussed among fans.

There's nothing to "resist" against.

Modifié par Verhalthur, 24 mars 2012 - 11:35 .

[Tiax Rules All]

Penitent wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is the worst thing to happen to Mass Effect since the Ending of Mass Effect.

And that's saying a lot.

you have no idead what your talking about. the endings sucked.. its pretty much impossible for indoc theory to be as bad or worse. I dont understand why (some) hate it so much. It would make for a great segue into the DLC.

The alternatives are what suck. complete re-writes and BS simple closure and explaination is crap.

I still feel you people don't fully get the theory and all its points. You simply couldn't say its worse the the current endings or creates more holes if you did.

[Tov01]

I never liked the indoctrination idea. It just feels wrong t me, and doesn't answer any of the important questions.

If you want a new ending, you might as well just replace it completely, rather than force the player through an extend dream sequence.

[Warden130]

Kylie Nightbreeze wrote...

But the Indoc theory creates even more holes than it solves, so it is no better.

lol! How about you educate yourself on the theory first before making comments like this. The video in Tiax Rules All's sig does a great job in explaining it. The theory is definetly not perfect, but the reason why alot of people believe it is because it has a lot of evidence (And yes, some speculation too) to back it up.

Modifié par Warden130, 24 mars 2012 - 11:39 .

[Penitent]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

[I]t is still thier best option going forward.

According to whom? You? What Reaper army made you arbiter of ending options? Making IT "the" story is, indubitably, the worst possible thing that could happen to this franchise.

Pre-IT: Ending sucks.

Post-IT: Ending still sucks, but now has convoluted malarkey justifying its suckiness. 

Modifié par Penitent, 24 mars 2012 - 11:38 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

There is plenty resistance. It's just tiring to combat the level of sheer denial of IT proponents. They seem to think if they say it long enough it'll suddenly be true.

[Voutsis1982]

The Indoctrination Theory doesn't mean Shepard is Indoctrinated, The End. It means the problems in the current ending can be cast in a new light and a new ending put into play, one where Shepard may have to be saved rather than play cliched savior.

[Warden130]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

There is plenty resistance. It's just tiring to combat the level of sheer denial of IT proponents. They seem to think if they say it long enough it'll suddenly be true.

This statement reminds me of the take back Mass Effect "movement". Say "Hold the line" enough and Bioware will change the endings .

Modifié par Warden130, 24 mars 2012 - 11:41 .

[sniper1250]

Penitent wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

[I]t is still thier best option going forward.

According to whom? You? What Reaper army made you arbiter of ending options? Making IT "the" story is, indubitably, the worst possible thing that could happen to this franchise.

Pre-IT: Ending sucks.

Post-IT: Ending still sucks, but now has convoluted malarkey justifying its suckiness. 

Or, Post-IT: Consumers start to believe they were sold an incomplete product and a newer, larger movement starts up against Bioware releasing incomplete games only to finish them weeks or months later with DLC.