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[noobcannon]

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

noobcannon wrote...
would it still bother you if it is free? i think i'd only be pissed if they charged me for it.

I'll be brutally honest and say I'd still be a bit pissed. Because lets think about that, if there wasn't outrage... whose to say they wouldn't try to charge us for it?

if it was anyone other than EA, there's be no doubt in my mind that it would be free. but this is EA. i have a feeling it will be loaded with content, Indoctrination theory clarification, more endgame content/levels/missions/dialouge etc, multiplayer characters, maps, weapons, maybe even bonus xp or something as equally meaningless, and then they will use that to justify charging us for it. 

i just think with how mad the fanbase is right now, they'd be incredibly foolish to charge us for it.

Modifié par noobcannon, 25 mars 2012 - 03:40 .

[Hunter_Wolf]

wheelierdan wrote...

i think there needs to be a distinction between those who feel this is all a master plan, and those who have supported the ending because it makes more sense then the offical ending recognizing that it is fan made.
fan edit versus bioware plan because i can understand those that would rather believe it. i dont understand those who believe that was always intended, when the real life out of game evidence is against it.

Ideally that would work. But some people don't like Indoctrination, the concept in it's entirety. You can't really force people  to accept the chance that this was an elaborate plot to create an episodic conclusion because some just believe the powers that be actually think like that. 

Even I myself am skeptical on that and I fully support Indoctrination but the chances..................... so slim brah.

[Apollo-XL5]

Vromrig wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

OH and ME3 timeline is afew weeks, not months.

Uncertain.  Some dialogue suggests months.

I am playing through ME3 for a third time (loving it either way, this time with femshep)  so ill take further notes.
Still loving the imprsession mate

[Vromrig]

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Vromrig wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

OH and ME3 timeline is afew weeks, not months.

Uncertain.  Some dialogue suggests months.

I am playing through ME3 for a third time (loving it either way, this time with femshep)  so ill take further notes.
Still loving the imprsession mate

Recommend following Twitter then.  Frequently updated.

[Americ4nPunk]

I imagine this thread turned into an Anti-Indoctrination thread all by itself.

I kind of think it's cruel to shut down the dream of so many people grasping at E.I.Ps to turn away from the god awful ending. But what can you do the world is a cruel place.

edit: fixed the straw thing thanks :happy:

Modifié par Americ4nPunk, 25 mars 2012 - 03:45 .

[SamFlagg]

Honestly I don't think there needs to be resistance to the Indoc theory, as the options on the table are

1.) It was planned, bioware was always going to do it.  Reistance is futile

2.) Bioware was planning nothing, but since we know they're going to have something to say in April they've outlined and picked their course already.  They picked indoctrination out of their options and work has begun.  Resitance is futile.

3.) Same as above but they opted not to go with indoctrination.  Reistance isn't necessary.

[Kylie Nightbreeze]

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

OH and ME3 timeline is afew weeks, not months.

Actually Dr. Chakwas said it had been a few months, and so did Ashley.

[noobcannon]

Americ4nPunk wrote...

I imagine this thread turned into an Anti-Indoctrination thread all by itself.

I kind of think it's cruel to shut down the dream of so many people grasping at straws to turn away from the god awful ending. But what can you do the world is a cruel place.

emergency induction ports, fyi

[wheelierdan]

i dont like it personally, not because it isnt interesting or thought out its simply because theyve said no post dlc so i know it isnt true.

what you guys have done is built a space worthy vessel, air tight and ready to go, except your ship requires fuel, fuel that has explicitly been stated will not be delivered to you, because of that youve got a fancy box.

[noobcannon]

Modifié par noobcannon, 25 mars 2012 - 03:43 .

[Kylie Nightbreeze]

SamFlagg wrote...

Honestly I don't think there needs to be resistance to the Indoc theory, as the options on the table are

1.) It was planned, bioware was always going to do it.  Reistance is futile

2.) Bioware was planning nothing, but since we know they're going to have something to say in April they've outlined and picked their course already.  They picked indoctrination out of their options and work has begun.  Resitance is futile.

3.) Same as above but they opted not to go with indoctrination.  Reistance isn't necessary.

BioWare has NOT indorsed this idea so end of that.

[Apollo-XL5]

Vromrig wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Vromrig wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

OH and ME3 timeline is afew weeks, not months.

Uncertain.  Some dialogue suggests months.

I am playing through ME3 for a third time (loving it either way, this time with femshep)  so ill take further notes.
Still loving the imprsession mate

Recommend following Twitter then.  Frequently updated.

Sorry mate, dont do twitter or facebook.

[Hunter_Wolf]

noobcannon wrote...
i just think with how mad the fanbase is right now, they'd be incredibly foolish to charge us for it.

As much as I would love to see that happen, I highly doubt it. 


Although in regards to DLC and it's unlocks, what had me convinced about The Truth's relevence was how LoTSB and The Arrival were both leaked in similar fashion and later confirmed. The supposed leak of The Truth talked about MP unlocks as well. So lets think about that, what a badass title to list DLC that would follow such a conveluted ending.  

But even I'll remain skeptical until proven otherwise.

[Apollo-XL5]

Kylie Nightbreeze wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

OH and ME3 timeline is afew weeks, not months.

Actually Dr. Chakwas said it had been a few months, and so did Ashley.

DId you check that video that we have been suggesting you watch.  Also i did just say that  i am playing through i again, so i will double check.  I csan put my hands up in the air and say that I was wrong(when/if the time comes) , the question is can you?

[Ricvenart]

Poor rebuttal to me and by that last post you prove again you missed the point.

Who is this "they" that "expects" everyone to buy it as fact? I see a "they" that answers questions and makes a case against apparent "plotholes" in a dream alot, but I must be missing this "crazy, religious they" that tries to force the idea on everyone. Though you seem rather aggressive on that front, repeatly pointing out who wrong it is and using insults to try make people feel bad for liking it.

Has rapid indoc claim changed lately? Cause last I read that point would have been harbingers beam not at the start of the game.

I hated the idea at first tbh, though I tend to hate "it was all a dream" storylines in general but softened too it and saw a few videos that do make a good (not irrefutable) case for it, it could slid in nicely to the story, better then some godkid and even brushes him under a rug, then tosses him in a lake, think we can all agree we want that isn't it? ha.
Even the holes there are more of the acceptable kind in a game, I don't know why a theory (idea, well researched too) is expected to be the solution has to solve every tiny detail though out the series, just patch over the gaping hole. And bring better closure to the game world. Some catharsis, maybe truly bitter sweet this time.
Imagine as Indoctrinated Shep blows his own brains out like he's made others do after stopping the reapers.

[SamFlagg]

Kylie Nightbreeze wrote...

SamFlagg wrote...

Honestly I don't think there needs to be resistance to the Indoc theory, as the options on the table are

1.) It was planned, bioware was always going to do it.  Reistance is futile

2.) Bioware was planning nothing, but since we know they're going to have something to say in April they've outlined and picked their course already.  They picked indoctrination out of their options and work has begun.  Resitance is futile.

3.) Same as above but they opted not to go with indoctrination.  Reistance isn't necessary.

BioWare has NOT indorsed this idea so end of that.

Read what I said, the options at this point probably indicate that bioware has already settled on how they're going to fix it.  Indoctrination or No indoctrination they've probably already picked their path.

[BlankPage]

Why.. Resist? I mean, if it's true then it is true. If it is not, then it is not. Simple! No need to flame those who believe it is true or vice versa. Though disagreeing with them is a different matter, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

"Resistance" is an odd word to use.

[PlumPaul93]

Penitent wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is the worst thing to happen to Mass Effect since the Ending of Mass Effect.

And that's saying a lot.

This. If anyone made a sig saying the IT sucks I'd use it.

Modifié par PlumPaul82393, 25 mars 2012 - 03:49 .

[Apollo-XL5]

Kylie Nightbreeze wrote...

SamFlagg wrote...

Honestly I don't think there needs to be resistance to the Indoc theory, as the options on the table are

1.) It was planned, bioware was always going to do it.  Reistance is futile

2.) Bioware was planning nothing, but since we know they're going to have something to say in April they've outlined and picked their course already.  They picked indoctrination out of their options and work has begun.  Resitance is futile.

3.) Same as above but they opted not to go with indoctrination.  Reistance isn't necessary.

BioWare has NOT indorsed this idea so end of that.

They havent dismissed it either.
Do you really believe all your preaching or do you just like arguing with people for sake of it.

[Ricvenart]

noobcannon wrote...

if it was anyone other than EA, there's be no doubt in my mind that it would be free. but this is EA. i have a feeling it will be loaded with content, Indoctrination theory clarification, more endgame content/levels/missions/dialouge etc, multiplayer characters, maps, weapons, maybe even bonus xp or something as equally meaningless, and then they will use that to justify charging us for it. 

i just think with how mad the fanbase is right now, they'd be incredibly foolish to charge us for it.

Charging is another issue, but I truly hope they don't attach it to other content so it's left truly optional for those who like the current end or don't like the solution.

[Hunter_Wolf]

Americ4nPunk wrote...
I kind of think it's cruel to shut down the dream of so many people grasping at E.I.Ps to turn away from the god awful ending. But what can you do the world is a cruel place.

Well I've been let down before. So it doesn't go without saying that when it comes to hope, that string keeping you held-tight is rather think and brittle. I've been invested with quite a few games that upon experiencing it for myself was nothing that I expected. 

It is a cruel twist of fate to hold onto an idea so dear that when you finally see what you were hoping for be nothing of the sort, it leaves you worse than you were. People really shouldn't get too ahead, while Bioware hasn't denied indoctrination - they as well haven't seemed to confirm it either.

[Hunter_Wolf]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Penitent wrote...

Indoctrination Theory is the worst thing to happen to Mass Effect since the Ending of Mass Effect.

And that's saying a lot.

This. If anyone made a sig saying the IT sucks I'd use it.

It's antics like this that bring a smile to my face. Do you even know why you hate the theory? 

Modifié par Hunter_Wolf, 25 mars 2012 - 03:55 .

[wheelierdan]

one of the reasons the theory is somewhat unsettling is its sort of like the end of BSG when it went all religious, i view mass effect as a science game for rational people, and to see this strange almost religion pop up in the fervent belief of this whole thing, and the way its defended.

[Holoe4]

Don't you see!? Bioware is making us fight each other instead of fighting them!

[beank]

@Vromrig....

When i read your post in my head I hear morridin's voice. I like that.

@The Thread In General....

Without a rival theroy, then IT (IDT, Indoc Theroy, whatever its called)  is just to at giving explinations to things that seem to lack them.

The best thing to do against the theory would be to question it and find counter points to support another theory.