wheelierdan wrote...
one of the reasons the theory is somewhat unsettling is its sort of like the end of BSG when it went all religious, i view mass effect as a science game for rational people, and to see this strange almost religion pop up in the fervent belief of this whole thing, and the way its defended.
beank wrote...
The best thing to do against the theory would be to question it and find counter points to support another theory.
Modifié par Hunter_Wolf, 25 mars 2012 - 05:11 .
beank wrote...
@Vromrig....
When i read your post in my head I hear morridin's voice. I like that.
@The Thread In General....
Without a rival theroy, then IT (IDT, Indoc Theroy, whatever its called) is just to at giving explinations to things that seem to lack them.
The best thing to do against the theory would be to question it and find counter points to support another theory.
BlankPage wrote...
Why.. Resist? I mean, if it's true then it is true. If it is not, then it is not. Simple! No need to flame those who believe it is true or vice versa. Though disagreeing with them is a different matter, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
"Resistance" is an odd word to use.
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Vromrig wrote...
wheelierdan wrote...
one of the reasons the theory is somewhat unsettling is its sort of like the end of BSG when it went all religious, i view mass effect as a science game for rational people, and to see this strange almost religion pop up in the fervent belief of this whole thing, and the way its defended.
Disingenuous post. Not stating of true feeling. Projecting of real liffe prejudices onto disagreement.
You mean like a Reaper beam sending him flying and knocking the tar out of him, similar to what occurs at the very beginning of the game?SamFlagg wrote...
Outside of indoctrination I'm not sure anyone has come up with a good way to start the game again when Shepard wakes up. (From a narrative perspective)
Cyan-Glow wrote...
To put it another way:
If you support IT: It's like you've bought an unfinished product
If you oppose IT It's like you bought a poorly written unfinished product.
Take your pics and grab a banner!
Of course they are going to charge for it: it's work on their part, and I agree with them they have the right to charge for it. If you went to work and your boss said you weren't going to be paid for your work today how mad would you be? It is a job for these guys to give us games like this, so I say more power to them in the pay or free department.noobcannon wrote...
Hunter_Wolf wrote...
noobcannon wrote...
would it still bother you if it is free? i think i'd only be pissed if they charged me for it.
I'll be brutally honest and say I'd still be a bit pissed. Because lets think about that, if there wasn't outrage... whose to say they wouldn't try to charge us for it?
if it was anyone other than EA, there's be no doubt in my mind that it would be free. but this is EA. i have a feeling it will be loaded with content, Indoctrination theory clarification, more endgame content/levels/missions/dialouge etc, multiplayer characters, maps, weapons, maybe even bonus xp or something as equally meaningless, and then they will use that to justify charging us for it.
i just think with how mad the fanbase is right now, they'd be incredibly foolish to charge us for it.
List to the Reaper segmant again. "Slow paitent indoctronation can last for months or years... Rapid indoctroantion can happen, but only last for days or weeks." This notion that ME3 was only a couple of days is bull. First of all I have heard of no mass war like this taking only a couple of day or hours. Second how long was Ash in hospital a couple of hours I donn't think so. In the beginging of the game it is stated that Shep has been held up for over a month. Listent to what Dr. Chakwas says when you get her back on board. "I know it has only been 6 months (or whatever she says, but I know it is months)..." this was about the brandy thing. So rapid not slow because Shep was not near a reaper for all of that time, so Indoc dead in the water... sigh.noobcannon wrote...
Kylie Nightbreeze wrote...
There isn't a single thing to prove. People just getting little pieces of information here and there, like the Arrival DLC and saying that Shep was indoct because of it, and they expect everyone to buy it as fact. Sorry but no dice there. As stated rapid Indoc which is what that would have been would have killed Shep in a few weeks. ME3 Last for atleast half a year. So....Dreogan wrote...
Please answer one thing: With what is currently in the game, with the way it is told, why is this theory relevant?
Kylie Nightbreeze wrote...
But the Indoc theory creates even more holes than it solves, so it is no better.
Modifié par Iwillbeback, 25 mars 2012 - 12:25 .
Cyan-Glow wrote...
To put it another way:
If you support IT: It's like you've bought an unfinished product
If you oppose IT It's like you bought a poorly written unfinished product.
Take your pics and grab a banner!
Modifié par evisneffo, 25 mars 2012 - 12:37 .
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Just because it is an easy answer does not make it the real one sorry folks, and unless EA and BioWare come out and say ya or nah to the idea I say it is not real cause evidence does not support it.Cyan-Glow wrote...
@Skypain:
Yes it's most certainly possible that Shep is traumatized to the point of hallucination, but in the ME universe there is a more convenient reason for it; no not space magic, but Indoctrination.
It's assumed that Shepard is indoctrinated through multiple exposures to reaper technology. It's not 1 defining event; more like slow corruption over time. After all, he has been around and inside reapers since ME1. Arrival is a great final strike at his independent mind, but not necessary for the IT to make sense.
Acutually it is getting done what need to be done people who don't like the idea speaking up. This hamster wheel of arguments for IT is just people trying to get the rest of us to believe it, and failing. There is nothing subplot, main plot, or undertone that goes unspoken that says Shep is Indoced.Nauks wrote...
This whole thread does more to support indoc theory than anything >
Skypain wrote...
My Shepard was never was at the Arriva, i never took part on that mission (dont have the DLC). In the GR room it is said that a marine division took out the relay. So how did my Shepard get indoc, space magic
We know that soldiers can experience trauma, couldnt shepard been traumatized/stressed by his experience from ME1 to 2? And the reason that he saw a child is becuase it is more dramatic that way?
Arrival happening is, Shepard actually participating in it isn't...Iwillbeback wrote...
Skypain wrote...
My Shepard was never was at the Arriva, i never took part on that mission (dont have the DLC). In the GR room it is said that a marine division took out the relay. So how did my Shepard get indoc, space magic
We know that soldiers can experience trauma, couldnt shepard been traumatized/stressed by his experience from ME1 to 2? And the reason that he saw a child is becuase it is more dramatic that way?
Doesn't matter, it is Canon.
Arrival is why shepard was grounded and held on earth.
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