Archengeia hits the spot again. His new video shows what Bioware became.
#151
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:35
#152
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:39
90% of the game is on par with the rest of the series (whether you agree or not with certain design decisions is a matter of personal preference), and the only reason there's a dip in quality towards the end is the deadline.
Modifié par Melancholic, 25 mars 2012 - 06:41 .
#153
Guest_Dominus Solanum_*
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 06:55
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#154
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 07:12
I hadn't thought of not revealing the background for the Reapers. This is the first time I've even really given it any thought but the more I think about the more I think it would've been a great twist.
Scrap the ending that we have, imagine a really good one, but have the "Twist" be an ending with no true explanation for why the Reapers do what they do or any reveal as to their creators.
(Just to be clear completely scrap the current ending & imagine one where the Crucible is the ultimate weapon, no Star Child, Shepard does his thing & ends the Reaper threat but we never get a detailed explanation on the Reapers thesmelves)
Now this would've been an interesting road for BW to go down & would've created (a fun) & endless debate over who the Reapers were created by, debate their motives, etc etc... I like the idea.
I could see how that ending could work. Obviously BW decided not to go down that route at all & their end reasoning for why the Reapers exist was pathetic, but man that would've been a fun "twist" in itself. To leave the Reapers as this alien, unknowable evil.
#155
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 07:37
#156
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 08:17
#157
Guest_Paulomedi_*
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 09:08
Guest_Paulomedi_*
Opsrbest wrote...
Paulomedi wrote...
www.youtube.com/watch
This is sad. See for yourselves.
tl;dr From a programmer-perspective view, Bioware lost the passion to work on Mass Effect.
The first two videos:
www.youtube.com/watch & www.youtube.com/watch
EDIT 1: Changed the topic's name because of constructive criticism.
EDIT 2: I said here that Bioware didn't care..I think they do, but for different reasons...
Who is this guy that I should care what he thinks?
He has the credentials to actually be able to back up what he says?
This videos is just a opinion on the situation. But he hits the spot right on several times, being reasonable and very detailed. I must watch for all fans of Mass Effect.
#158
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 10:02
Edit: He raises a lot of good points, which sadly, I'm starting think are true. Bioware isn't evil, they just seem to have lost their passion.
Modifié par Paparob, 25 mars 2012 - 10:03 .
#159
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 11:02
humes spork wrote...
Paulomedi wrote...
I'd invite you to watch the whole video. Or you're like this ME3 reviewers who didn't play the whole game, and still thinks it's magnificient?
Not worth my time.
Anyone who takes the dark energy thing seriously is demonstrating prima facie they haven't done the background reading in the codices they need to be remotely credible on the subject.
Anyone who thinks the conflict between synthetics and organics isn't a sufficient, ongoing theme in the game to base an ending around, just wasn't intellectually there while playing the games. At all. To the point I must wonder if they were even playing Mass Effect at all.
...and anyone who tries to talk about what would be a "better" ending in the context of that glaring ignorance of the universe and its ongoing themes is just a bloody fool, regardless of how well-spoken they are.
Whatever ****.
Dark energy was the original planned ending, the current one sucks and is full of inconsistencies, holes, and just generally comes from out of nowhere. You can say reading the codex makes more sense of things to make yourself feel better if you want, but that doesn't make it true.
#160
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 11:14
magor1988x wrote...
I hadn't thought of not revealing the background for the Reapers. This is the first time I've even really given it any thought but the more I think about the more I think it would've been a great twist.
Scrap the ending that we have, imagine a really good one, but have the "Twist" be an ending with no true explanation for why the Reapers do what they do or any reveal as to their creators.
Exactly. It's been 37 millions years, and only the original Reaper, Harbinger, knows exactly how they came about. Just one brief conversation with Shepard along the lines of:
Harbinger: Your human mind demands answers, an explanation of what you face to help you conquer your fear of the unknown. I deny you that. Face your fears in us and in the darkness of ignorance.
#161
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 11:24
#162
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 01:30
GhostV9 wrote...
Dark energy was the original planned ending, the current one sucks and is full of inconsistencies, holes, and just generally comes from out of nowhere. You can say reading the codex makes more sense of things to make yourself feel better if you want, but that doesn't make it true.
From Karpyshyn's own Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/...282864288960512
"Dark Energy was on the table at one point, but the original idea for the ending was all about Reapers and Mass Relays."
The dark energy thing came from the Something Awful forums. Karpyshyn was asked about this because of that rumor. His response indicated that while dark energy was on the table, it was not in fact the "original planned ending" for Mass Effect 3.
Even if it was, it's still bad and for all the reasons I've articulated earler in this thread and more -- I have other posts on this very forum if you'd like me to repost them. And, like I said before if it was the original planned ending, being as bad as it was is it any wonder Karpyshyn was pulled from the project?
Modifié par humes spork, 25 mars 2012 - 01:33 .
#163
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 05:38
Hold the line!
#164
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 08:56
#165
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 08:57
#166
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 10:23
#167
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 10:32
#168
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 10:34
#169
Guest_Paulomedi_*
Posté 25 mars 2012 - 11:57
Guest_Paulomedi_*
jmstevenson.wordpress.com/2012/03/22/all-that-matters-is-the-ending-part-2-mass-effect-3/
Original thread:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10619229
Modifié par Paulomedi, 26 mars 2012 - 12:40 .
#170
Guest_Paulomedi_*
Posté 26 mars 2012 - 03:12
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