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[KainD]

Ragnakuna wrote...

Any shotgun gets a massive damage boost from just the basic cloak . If it spits hot fire at close range with a sudden bang, it's going to ruin someones day. Period.

That is not the reason I suggest using these weapons. It's because on top of that 1) The charged shot is even more powerful. 2) The charged shot doesn't brake cloak.

[KainD]

squidney2k1 wrote...

I thought you got the memo TC: Widow sniping is t3h ultimate cool cuz you do more the most damage, and your team is always incapable of high damage output. Therefore you MUST have a Widow sniper, right? Right?

I just got 200k score in my game, playing vs geth with N300+ people on my team, there were quarian infiltrators too with widows.

[AndrewPast]

AsheraII wrote...

If I had to chooe between the GPS and the Graal... I'd throw the Graal out the window right away.
But overall.. You just can't snipe properly with a shotty. Going in close so you might actually hit the head is simply not an option. The whole idea is to control the battlefield from a distance. Have a good overview of the area, pick out targets that should die right away, without having to run all the way towards them first.

If you're in range of the enemy to see the red highlight box around an enemy, you can hit said target with a full GPS blast because of the basic tracking abilities that it has. I snipe all the time with it.

The only thing I really miss with the GPS vs a rifle is that the GPS has no penetration, even with the shredder mod.

[TLK Spires]

but i like my n7 valiant

[Ashen One]

Just unlocked the GPS X. U jelly OP?

[Darkslayer557]

SI+claymore = win.

[ZombiesNBacon]

KainD wrote...

Ragnakuna wrote...

Any shotgun gets a massive damage boost from just the basic cloak . If it spits hot fire at close range with a sudden bang, it's going to ruin someones day. Period.

That is not the reason I suggest using these weapons. It's because on top of that 1) The charged shot is even more powerful. 2) The charged shot doesn't brake cloak.

The charged shot doesn't brake cloak only if you charge then shoot. Which is an exploit  and semi awkward playstyle. Also when charging you can't be in cover and I find myself in cover alot. I'd rather use the Claymore for the most damage possible without having to charge. From the dude I saw playing with Claymore X on Gold he was 1HKO'ing (including Energy Drain). To get that same power using GPS/Graal you'd have to charge which takes more time/more ammo/uses up cloak.

Modifié par ZombiesNBacon, 25 mars 2012 - 09:37 .

[Yaevinn]

I have only Graal I atm. So i will stick to Valiant or Javelin, sorry.

edit: doesn't charged weapon actually DISCHARGE when climbing up ladders??

Modifié par Yaevinn, 25 mars 2012 - 10:24 .

[A Wild Snorlax]

I have a GPS X, a Claymore X and a graal VII. I hate the graal, but I like the gps and the claymore. The GPS seems to fire through people a lot when you are lagging though. How is the claymore on gold OP? I know it works on silver, but I've never really tried my shotgun infiltrators on gold, usually stick with the widow.

Also, what mods do you use on the GPS? I use the barrel and smart choke but it doesn't seem like the smart choke does a lot of the gps, so I'm thinking maybe the shredder mod is good for the heavy armored targets?

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

I prefer my Katana thanks - better power recharge times and I don't have to lead my shots at a moving target. Salarian infiltrator is perfect for shotguns - strip shields off phantom with energy drain, and while they are staggered line up that headshot while still cloaked. One shot and they are out. I like my spike thrower on my sentinel instead.

[hireuin]

i suspect there's a flaw in your DPS model.

sniper = cloak -> shot  -OR-  cloak -> energy drain -> shot
time between cloak and shot is minimal, therefore your cloak recharges faster and increases your overall DPS potential

shotgun = charge -> cloak -> energy drain -> run into position -> double shot
slightly more time between cloak and shot, therefore your cloak recharges with a slight delay and decreases your overall DPS potential


GPS is somewhat effective at range, therefore you don't need to 'run into position'.... however i highly suspect GPS is pretty high on the nerf list  (as a krogan soldier with inferno grenade, carnage spam and GPS i can easily score over 100k on silver).  it's blatantly overpowered, sick damage and doesn't even require aim.

also, i wonder if the cloak/charge shot will be nerfed... i would think so

Modifié par hireuin, 25 mars 2012 - 10:31 .

[ZombiesNBacon]

hireuin wrote...

i suspect there's a flaw in your DPS model.

sniper = cloak -> shot  -OR-  cloak -> energy drain -> shot
time between cloak and shot is minimal, therefore your cloak recharges faster and increases your overall DPS potential

shotgun = charge -> cloak -> energy drain -> run into position -> double shot
slightly more time between cloak and shot, therefore your cloak recharges with a slight delay and decreases your overall DPS potential


GPS is somewhat effective at range, therefore you don't need to 'run into position'.... however i highly suspect GPS is pretty high on the nerf list  (as a krogan soldier with inferno grenade, carnage spam and GPS i can easily score over 100k on silver).  it's blatantly overpowered, sick damage and doesn't even require aim.

also, i wonder if the cloak/charge shot will be nerfed... i would think so

Yea, this.

I don't know if they'll ever patch/nerf Charge->Cloak shot but it's defintetly an exploit.

[Terraflare]

hireuin wrote...

i suspect there's a flaw in your DPS model.

sniper = cloak -> shot  -OR-  cloak -> energy drain -> shot
time between cloak and shot is minimal, therefore your cloak recharges faster and increases your overall DPS potential

shotgun = charge -> cloak -> energy drain -> run into position -> double shot
slightly more time between cloak and shot, therefore your cloak recharges with a slight delay and decreases your overall DPS potential


GPS is somewhat effective at range, therefore you don't need to 'run into position'.... however i highly suspect GPS is pretty high on the nerf list  (as a krogan soldier with inferno grenade, carnage spam and GPS i can easily score over 100k on silver).  it's blatantly overpowered, sick damage and doesn't even require aim.

also, i wonder if the cloak/charge shot will be nerfed... i would think so

Yet another "OMG I got 1000000000000 points with this gun it is OP NERF NERF NERF. NERF cloak chargeshots NERF GPS NERF anything that is viable! I destroy bronze with just my sick aim and an arc pistol over 3 million points NERF it as well!"

[kotli]

radaaz wrote...

Idk what about spike thrower, but having only geth shotgun would be problematic against Cerberus guardians. The only way to take them down would be flanking them.

I can kill silly guardians with geth shotgun in 1 shot from the front its the same as with any weapon aim for the slot area.

[Rifneno]

I've wanted to try infiltrator for a while but I'm not a good sniper. ... Okay, I just plain suck at sniping. By the time I've lined up my headshot, the enemy has moved even if they were just in cover waiting. So I tried this. Was very hopeful, having a graal 5 but only a gps 2. I must say...

I hate the graal so much it hurts.

The spear moves at half the speed of smell, meaning at anything except point blank range the target will likely have moved. And if you've got any lag just forget about it. Perhaps worse is the damage it does when not charged up. Or I should say, the damage it doesn't do. I don't know if that marauder was laughing because I was so pathetic or if the spear was actually tickling him... but I do know that, like the Falcon, it's a dud launcher if you're not the host. I'm not an awesome shot but there's no way I managed to miss as many point blank range shots as I did. The only good thing I can think of to say about it is that it staggered a phantom. Of course one also has to take into account that said phantom then shrugged off the next 2 spears before omnimurdering me on reload. FML.

[Moriea]

I just figured this strategy out yesterday when a quarian infiltrator showed up on my team with a claymore and broke 100k on Silver. Lag really does make it hard on the Gral and GPS though.

[A Wild Snorlax]

has anyone tried a claymore infiltrator on gold? It's great on silver but I haven't tried it on gold yet.... my claymore level is X and I have maxed all the mods for shotguns. I usually don't host the games so the gps is not that great for me due to lag.

[KainD]

ZombiesNBacon wrote...

The charged shot doesn't brake cloak only if you charge then shoot. Which is an exploit  and semi awkward playstyle. Also when charging you can't be in cover and I find myself in cover alot. I'd rather use the Claymore for the most damage possible without having to charge. From the dude I saw playing with Claymore X on Gold he was 1HKO'ing (including Energy Drain). To get that same power using GPS/Graal you'd have to charge which takes more time/more ammo/uses up cloak.

It IS an awkward playstyle,  not sure if an exploit though, maybe was intended for strategy. But I almost don't use cover as an infiltrator, most of the time I am right in the enemies face, so I don't care if I can charge in cover or not. It doesn't really take a lot of time to charge, you just push charge and go into cloak right away, the charge will be finished while you are cloaked. 

Also another VERY awesome thing that I use a LOT is the fact that GPS and Graal can be charged/shot while spritning, it makes me a very fast and sudden hiter. I always use adrenaline amp for running speed when I am playing an infiltrator for more effectivness. 

Also GPS and Graal weight less than Claymore, both keep my cooldown at 100%, so my cloak recharges in 4 sec. I actually spend more time IN cloak than OUT of cloak during the game. 

Modifié par KainD, 25 mars 2012 - 04:26 .

[KainD]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

has anyone tried a claymore infiltrator on gold? It's great on silver but I haven't tried it on gold yet.... my claymore level is X and I have maxed all the mods for shotguns. I usually don't host the games so the gps is not that great for me due to lag.

What is wrong with you people seriously? 

YOU have the game! Make a game, equip your freaking Claymore or GPS or whatever on gold and try it!  

You can do a solo in private for 2-3 waves, takes 7 min, and that's enough to tell.

Modifié par KainD, 25 mars 2012 - 04:30 .

[DrekorSilverfang]

kotli wrote...

radaaz wrote...

Idk what about spike thrower, but having only geth shotgun would be problematic against Cerberus guardians. The only way to take them down would be flanking them.

I can kill silly guardians with geth shotgun in 1 shot from the front its the same as with any weapon aim for the slot area.

And I can kill 2 of them with 1 shot while aiming wherever the hell I please when I use a widow.

[KainD]

DrekorSilverfang wrote...

kotli wrote...

radaaz wrote...

Idk what about spike thrower, but having only geth shotgun would be problematic against Cerberus guardians. The only way to take them down would be flanking them.

I can kill silly guardians with geth shotgun in 1 shot from the front its the same as with any weapon aim for the slot area.

And I can kill 2 of them with 1 shot while aiming wherever the hell I please when I use a widow.

That is the ONLY thing in the whole MP that widow infiltrator does better. 

[teh DRUMPf!!]

My salarian rolls with Disciple/Avenger(scoped), because cooldown is important for me on this class.

But yeah, I agree. Shotgunning is fun w/ Infiltrator.

[A Wild Snorlax]

KainD wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

has anyone tried a claymore infiltrator on gold? It's great on silver but I haven't tried it on gold yet.... my claymore level is X and I have maxed all the mods for shotguns. I usually don't host the games so the gps is not that great for me due to lag.

What is wrong with you people seriously? 

YOU have the game! Make a game, equip your freaking Claymore or GPS or whatever on gold and try it!  

You can do a solo in private for 2-3 waves, takes 7 min, and that's enough to tell.

You've made a thread on a forum about a shotgun infiltrator build. i ask a question about a shotgun. Derppp much

[KainD]

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

You've made a thread on a forum about a shotgun infiltrator build. i ask a question about a shotgun. Derppp much

No, not derp. I made a thread to suggest people use these two weapons. There should be no questions, only self opinions. What you do is go into the game, equip said weapons and play with them. 

Modifié par KainD, 25 mars 2012 - 04:43 .

[Ashen One]

DrekorSilverfang wrote...

kotli wrote...

radaaz wrote...

Idk what about spike thrower, but having only geth shotgun would be problematic against Cerberus guardians. The only way to take them down would be flanking them.

I can kill silly guardians with geth shotgun in 1 shot from the front its the same as with any weapon aim for the slot area.

And I can kill 2 of them with 1 shot while aiming wherever the hell I please when I use a widow.

Not if they have shields or barriers. A charged GPS shot while cloaked can one shot a protected enemy without breaking cloak.