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[Thatguyky]

Between DA2 and this ME3 mess, I will NOT be pre-ordering DA3. I've lost to much faith in Bioware.

[colouroflife]

Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

Is Kingdoms of Amalur any good?

Yes, it is a great RPG with a rich, intriguing and deep story, excellent graphics, top-notch combat and a huge amount of various character developments. I absolutely recommend it. Moreover it  suggests a very high replay value beside more than 100 hours gameplay. You can check user reviews in Amazon.

[UnstableMongoose]

DA2 didn't kill ME3 pre-orders. ME3 won't kill DA3 pre-orders.

Oh, to be fair, it's possible that they might, and I am making a fairly strong generalization here. But a betting man would conclude that it's not that likely.

[colouroflife]

People pre-ordered DA2 and majority of them were disappointed. People pre-ordered ME3 and, again, majority of them were/have disappointed in one way or another. So naturally trust is broken towards Bioware and it is a natural outcome that the amount of pre-orders will be affected negatively.

[graciegrace]

UnstableMongoose wrote...

DA2 didn't kill ME3 pre-orders. ME3 won't kill DA3 pre-orders.

Oh, to be fair, it's possible that they might, and I am making a fairly strong generalization here. But a betting man would conclude that it's not that likely.

agree.  But DA2 already killed DA3 preorders so...

ME3 will kill future entries in the ME franchise preorders though.

[Gatt9]

SeventyOne wrote...

If the ME3 ending controversy is not resolved in a proper manner then there will be some noteworthy losses on the preorders of DA III. Usually the people that make preorders come from the fanbase of a company, its core customers. And at this moment it seems that most of these people are not satisfied with Bioware.
So it is natural that they will try to "vindicate" by not buying any Bioware's products, more even preorder.
I hope that Bioware understand that is not proffitable for a company to "rebuild" their customer base, and will take the neccessary actions needed to restore the corporate trust.
Time will tell.

I would venture it would be more substantial than that.  I would venture that the interest level in future EA/Bioware products as a whole will be relatively low,  no matter the title,  due to consistent questionable buisness plans that exploit the consumers.

People will look at who is making a game,  and the interest levels will drop,  simply because they now know that the game will likely be nothing like what the preview says it'll play like,  because they now know it'll have ridiculous DLC schemes,  and it'll have unavoidable multiplayer in order to force used game buyers to pay them.

It'll affect every title from EA now,  and I strongly suspect EA is in very deep trouble.  IMO,  EA's finally managed to condemn itself to bankruptcy through constant attempts to exploit gamers.

I *really* doubt there's any chance remaining of restoring brand loyalty or trust.  They had that chance,  3 weeks ago,  and they blew it.

(Go read all news articles on Gamespot regarding EA's releases for the last year,  and it's quarterlies,  from what I've read EA was already in trouble.  A number of their titles have simply not sold at all well)

[Takamori The Templar]

Why preorder DA3?
Day 1 dlc?
Rich Flamboyant editions against Poor peasant edition?
Nope I will avoid that ****.

[Dridengx]

Rockworm503 wrote...

I'm never pre-ordering anything ever again.

You will lose a lot of content and free DLC that way

Modifié par Dridengx, 25 mars 2012 - 07:35 .

[KotorEffect3]

Two separate franchises, two separate development teams, two different types of games.

[nikola8]

Not for me- I still remember DA:O. What an excellent game. And Bioware is saying all the right things about DA3- namely that it will go back to the roots of the series in play style and they are also heavily researching Skyrim to improve the series.

[Rajii017]

Bioware has at this point lost my trust. Period.

DA2 should have been called "Dragon Effect" because frankly that's what it was.
It had nothing in common with Dragon Age, save some names and brief Cameos.

Mass Effect 3 lied to the consumer with it's advertising and while I hope they fix it.( DLC ending) I'm not going to hold my breath.

I will NOT preorder from Bioware anymore, and that's from a fan who owns everything they've done going back to Baulder's Gate.

There games have been on a steady decline since EA took the helm, and while I realize that their are different teams doing different games, the company as a whole has lost me.

Mass Effect 3 is just the final nail in the coffin for me.

Modifié par Rajii017, 25 mars 2012 - 07:39 .

[Tymvir]

DA3 will probably create a huge hype before release and become the next last Bioware game everyone will buy.

Modifié par Tymvir, 25 mars 2012 - 07:40 .

[nikki191]

Bioware"Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding"

customer.. no future orders for me

[TRUTHMACHINE]

Brockololly wrote...

Dragon Age 2 destroyed Dragon Age 3 preorders all on its own

you are correct sir. i'm more interested in what will happen when bioware comes out with a new IP. without the benefit of an established fanbase a new IP would have to stand on Biowares "good name" alone. and i don't think it's worth what it used to be. should be interesting....

[DLC On The Disc]

Did Dragon Age 2 kill Mass Effect 3 pre-orders?

BioWare has a new target audience, and if you're not part of it you need to move on, they already have.

[KingJason13]

DA2 was the first time I didn't buy any post game DLC from Bioware.

ME3 is the last time I buy a Bioware game...

So, yes.

[UnstableMongoose]

DLC On The Disc wrote...

Did Dragon Age 2 kill Mass Effect 3 pre-orders?

BioWare has a new target audience, and if you're not part of it you need to move on, they already have.

BioWare has never really adjusted their target audience. People made this same claim in-between ME1 and ME2. Almost everyone who was a BioWare fan because of ME1 played ME2, including most of the people accusing BW of "moving on." Almost no one thought ME1, with the broken mechanics that governed it, was a better game. They were appreciative of the story and characters, but ME1's primary value became that it launched the story and franchise that led to ME2, a far superior game by most metrics.

ME1 is a very different game from ME3. But almost all good game franchises change significantly from iteration to iteration. The various emphases on game mechanics and story that have driven Final Fantasy have changed drastically from game to game. The very heart of the Metal Gear Solid franchise was slightly different in every game from 1 to 4. I could keep listing examples, but it would get boring. The point is, changing how a game works in its sequel is not abandoning the fanbase and moving on--it's called making a different game. If BioWare was going to make every game the exact same as ME1, we'd be on ME6 or ME7 by now, and it would be even worse than Call of Duty.

The games that stay the exact same from franchise to franchise are the ones that tend to suffer. *insert another easy-to-make Call of Duty jab*

[Luckywallace]

It has mine. I accept DA2 had pretty significant problems but I enjoyed it, mostly it just felt rushed. As long as they took at least 2 years with DA3 I would have happily purchased it on release day/pre-ordered.

NOW, after ME3, I'm going to wait at least a week and see what the fan reaction is. The great reviews that the professional critics gave to ME3 has warned me not to trust them about such things.

[Filurija]

Thatguyky wrote...

Between DA2 and this ME3 mess, I will NOT be pre-ordering DA3. I've lost to much faith in Bioware.

This

[Hexxer1]

zaalbar76 wrote...

i shall not be purchasing DA3 on launch, after the disappointment that was DA2 and the terrible ending to ME3, I do not trust Bioware to deliver on its promise.

From now on I will look out for reviews and listen to forum feedback before i'll consider purchasing future bioware products.

I totally feel the same way. Furthermore, even if I want to purchase a future Bioware title, why should I ever purchase it at launch for full retail?   

[DLC On The Disc]

@UnstableMongoose

I preferred Mass Effect 1, Mako and all, to ME2. I didn't like the direction they took the series in with 2, not to say I didn't find 2 enjoyable, I was just disappointed with the final product. ME1 had an amazing story, Mass Effect 2 had...well...pretty good dialogue I guess. ME3 was just a further step in that direction, with the added bonus of facebook and ios games, exclusive DLC for buying hoodies and dolls, and that ending. If I had bought it instead of borrowing it I'd probably be banned for the hate mail I'd send BW.

That is to say, ME2 and 3 might be fun games, but they really aren't Mass Effects.

[Solmanian]

Brockololly wrote...

Dragon Age 2 destroyed Dragon Age 3 preorders all on its own

I liked it, but people that hated it (and some people are realy raging over it) will definetly be more carefull. I decide on preordering, and wether I'll get the DDE, based on the bonuses. That said, I usually don't preorder games without some gameplay footage, and information on the game system. Bioware promised that ME3 will bring the best of both ME1&2. Even if they didn't the ending, most people will agree that atleast gameplay wise, it was superior to it's predecessor in almost every way. Bioware promised to bring back the things people loved in DA:o, and I have faith that they will bring it home. Look on the bright side: if you assume DA3 will have a crappy ending, you can only be pleasantly surprised.

[Nezzer]

Those who hadn't lost their faith in Bioware after DA2 probably lost it after ME3. There's no way I'm buying DA3. As for future ME games, that depends on how Bioware handles the new ending for ME3. If they disappoint us again with the new ending, I'll never buy another Bioware again and I'll never preorder any other game from any company again. The disappointment will be too much.