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What IF! MIND BLOWN (The Synthetic Theory)


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What if the Cruicble is the synthetic that kills all life in the galaxy?????  And the Reapers are trying to stop you from making it! No one knows what the cruicble does so it probably is the synthetic that kills all the organics! It's the only thing that is built every cycle!

It explains everything!

As long as the plans for the crucible exist all life is at risk. Removing all copies of the plans would be impossible, for all it would take is one well hidden data drive and all organic life could be lost. The only sure fire way to protect life, is to prevent those with the capcaity of building the Crucible from having the resources to build it. So the reapers harvest all space faring races when the plans are rediscovered, to prevent them from building the machine that will kill all life, while preserving the essence of their civillization. The spare the none space-faring races for they do not have the means to build the Synthetic death machine.

Important dates
2148 - Humans discover the plans on Mars
2157 - Humans make contact with Turians
Information becomes interconnected -> the reapers learn that plans have been discovered
2183 - ME1 -> Sovereign is aware of that the plans have been found, tries to start the cycle
2185 - ME2 -> Harbinger attempts to construct human reaper -> this reaper with the collect knowledge of humanity would be put to use in finding the plans for the Crucible and destroying them.
2185- ME3 -> Liara finds the plans in Mars Archives, which have been so far overlooked  -> DOOMS EVERYONE
                     -> Reapers use Cerberus to meddel with the construction of the Crucible -> Due human genetics TIM is                             hard to control 


Who are the Reapers? 
The reapers we probably the last creations of the orginal builders of the Crucible, who probably were killed by the Cruicble but somehow stopped it, probably by seprating Catalyst from it. The aliens that build the Crucible died, and realized with the plans of the Crucible would live on, an all organic life following them would find the plans and build their own destruction. Hence why the reaper cycles.


What about the ending?
The reapers are trying to control Shepherd to prevent him from activating the Crucible, but his will power is too strong. TIM, against his will, is guarding the Crucible, the reapers will make him kill Shepherd and Anderson preventing the activation of the Crucible. Joker once he realizes that the space magic is synethic death magic flees the scene, this makes sense. 

The Citadel, is the self aware synthetic (it refers to its self as the Catalyst). The reapers did remove and destroy the Crucible at some point, but organics keep rebuilding it. If the Crucible is joined to the Citadel the Catalyst then has the means to kill all organic life. When the Catalyst is talking about how synthetics will always kill their organic creators he is really talking about him self. When he claims he is control of the reapers, and that they are his solution, he is lieing. All conversations will the reapers shows that they are noone's puppet. 

The reapers must harvest those races that discover the plans for the Crucible, for organics will eventually build it, then join it to the Citadel allowing the Catalyst to purge life. The Catalyst can not be killed for he resides in the Citadel, the largest mass relay. Destroying the Citadel would cause huge super nova like explosion, and it is also the only mass relay that links to dark space. Remember it is made clear that synthetics are programs, (geth side quests) so the Catalyst probably infected the Citadel because it was the only reaper proof hardware it could hide in.

 In fact the reapers could prevent the creation of the crucible in the first place by simply not showing up since the crucible is something so insanely large in scale it took a galaxy wide extinction level event to get people to create it. 

The plans for the crucible are such that its function is only discovered on use. If organics discover the plans at all the probablity of construction is to high, for various reasons ranging from quest of knowledge, pursuits of power, or just curiosity.


To clarify, the Catalyst is the program, that must unite with the hardware of the Cruicible to kill everyone. The Reapers want to prevent this, and the Catalyst is currently residing in the Citadel, hence why the two structures must unite. And then the combined hardware with the evil synethic make death space magic.




Liara Conintues the Cycle!
Even if the Reapers won this clip shows how Liara continues the cycle


Javik on Thessia Supports some of the Ideas needed

1)information gets passed down cycle by cycle
2)there is a force in the galaxy that wants to kill everything
3)that the reapers are not that force

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Reapers - Villains or Anitheroes?

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Eisenfaust777 wrote...

A good theory, but why can't the reapers just show up and be all like "hey you, all of galactic civilization... build this thing and it'll kill you all..."

I can see a few reasons, but none really convincing... Firstly, the Reapers could be worried that telling them not to build this thing-that-was-previous-hidden will only draw their attention to it... but if so, you could just get a head start on the cycle right there, and keep going until you found someone willing to play by all the rules

Another reason, which is slightly more convincing (and also answers other questions about the whole "we only need the crucible because the reapers invaded to stop us using it!" thing) - had the reapers not intervened when they did, galactic civilization may progress beyond the point where the reapers could easily/practically intervene, at least without massive casualties... a whole heap of reapers died even here (yes, only against a galactic wide alliance, but still) - they may have had to step in to make sure that whatever species/group got their hands on the plans could still be harvested if they ever tried to use it, instead of being sufficiently advanced enough to give the reapers hell if they ever tried...
 
The problem there is that the current cycle couldn't have possibly beaten the reapers without banding together (which may not have been enough anyway, without the crucible doing what they hoped it would), but they only banded together (thus achieveing sufficient military power) because the reapers tried to stop them from having too much/sufficient military power...

should have invaded earlier, in other words... damn protheans, shutting down the citadel relay!


Modifié par 7he Island Head, 21 avril 2012 - 08:06 .


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Of course! IT all makes sense now!!

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Shelondias

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O NOES! How could we have been so BLIND!

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I can't see your picture :'(

See, it explains why in all the ending everyone dies, its because created the synthetic that the reapers where trying to stop you from building.

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Woaaaaaaa dude...

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Would fit with a paradox scenario. But then again the reapers built the catalyst so why no destroy the citadel and be done with it?

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This explains why Joker tries to run away from the blast!

locsphere wrote...

Would fit with a paradox scenario. But then again the reapers built the catalyst so why no destroy the citadel and be done with it?

Probably cause the reapers instead of destroying the citadel just busted of the Cruicible part of the Citadel so that the Synthetic couldn't hurt anyone.

Modifié par 7he Island Head, 25 mars 2012 - 05:23 .


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The crucible is the synthetic that kills all life in the galaxy. A plot twist by M. Night Shyamalan.

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Yo dawg, I heard you don't want to be killed by synthetics, so we synthetics kill you so you won't discover the synthetic that kills you because you wanted to find a way to kill us synthetics who want to kill you.

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Deep

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Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Yo dawg, I heard you don't want to be killed by synthetics, so we synthetics kill you so you won't discover the synthetic that kills you because you wanted to find a way to kill us synthetics who want to kill you.

EXACTLY! If the reapers didn't try to stop you from building the Catalyst, then you would never have built the Catalyst. It is a bitter sweet ending! Just like what bioware wanted.

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What if the Starchild is terribly mistaken, and in his attempt to keep synthetic life from destroying organic life he has created a race of synthetic beings that destroy organic being systematically!?

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gmboy902 wrote...

What if the Starchild is terribly mistaken, and in his attempt to keep synthetic life from destroying organic life he has created a race of synthetic beings that destroy organic being systematically!?

No, the Starchild isn't the controller of the reapers, he the thing the reapers are trying to stop. This means that the things Harbinger and Saren say aren't in conflict with what the Starchild says. Starchild lies.

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Wow... makes more sense than the actual ending!

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7he Island Head wrote...

gmboy902 wrote...

What if the Starchild is terribly mistaken, and in his attempt to keep synthetic life from destroying organic life he has created a race of synthetic beings that destroy organic being systematically!?

No, the Starchild isn't the controller of the reapers, he the thing the reapers are trying to stop. This means that the things Harbinger and Saren say aren't in conflict with what the Starchild says. Starchild lies.


Oh... wait... does that mean...

What if the Starchild is Casey Hudson?!

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7he Island Head wrote...

What if the Cruicble is the synthetic that kills all life in the galaxy?????  And the Reapers are trying to stop you from making it! No one knows what the cruicble does so it probably is the synthetic that kills all the organics! It's the only thing that is built every cycle!

It explains everything!


... MIND. BLOWN.

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Watch this!

All of the endings are the same.
They're the same cause the same person wins! The synthetic the kills all organics!


See -> He is programmed organics to build him so he can kill them!

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So, the Citadel has been it's prison all that time?

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... the funny part is when you realize that this would have been a pretty great plot twist.

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Praetor Shepard wrote...

So, the Citadel has been it's prison all that time?

Yes! Obviously he is controlling shepherd to restablish the link to the Crucible, allowing him to purge the glaxay of all life by destroying the mass relays. 

Modifié par 7he Island Head, 25 mars 2012 - 05:51 .


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but....there would of been no point for the crucible if there was no reaper threat.

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Great, now I have to scrape my brains off the back wall.

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Still rolls great on toast.

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Beanreaper wrote...

but....there would of been no point for the crucible if there was no reaper threat.

This makes sense, cause the Reapers told us we can't comprehend the situation, just that they are the harbinger of out destiny.

Also the humans got the plans for the Crucible (from the last cycle) in the year 2148, 35 years later in Mass Effect 1 the Reapers appear.  See the Reapers probably found the plans very quickly afterwards and tried to prevent the Crucible from being built. The humans triggered this cycle!

Modifié par 7he Island Head, 25 mars 2012 - 06:01 .