54 réponses à ce sujet

[BhallSpawn1011]

With all this to do, about the Mass Effect 3 endings I felt like I should take a minute to remind myself how I made the worst $60 purchase of my life with Dragon Age 2.

Real quick

Recycled environments that looked like garbage the first time you saw them, let alone the tenth.

A plot line that was written on a napkin at a cocktail party

Stupid pointless companions

The "plot twists" like Hawkes mother dying were so awful...

Cliche everything.

Im not gonna go into greater detail about just how much of a suck fest this game was, theres no need. Everyone that knows what a good game is, knows why.

Just a total garbage game, crumby experience. In short Dragon Age is an abomination.

[Adanu]

I'd almost call you a troll except that I actually know some people who give 'criticism' as stupidly as you do.

Coming here and bad mouthing the game to make yourself feel better I suppose?

[Plaintiff]

On the contrary; anyone who knows what a good game is, knows that DA2 is awesome.

[Great_Horn]

Well, we will never reach any agreement.

If there are some who value DA:2 as an awesome game and there are some who think it’s the worst game ever, the truth lies somewhere in between.

Despite that, everyone has the right to share these thoughts about the game. Calling someone a troll/hater end so on, doesn’t help. Same goes for… NO you’re wrong it was Awesome!

In fact those who defend the game (with their lives) have to elaborate, why the missing coherence between story arcs, the ending, the recycled maps, the change of art style, the over the top combat, missing interaction with your party members, no friendly fire (expect the nightmare setting), no tactical view, falling enemies from the sky and so one make the game AWESOME.

Modifié par Great_Horn, 25 mars 2012 - 09:53 .

[Waydester]

Adanu wrote...

I'd almost call you a troll except that I actually know some people who give 'criticism' as stupidly as you do.

Coming here and bad mouthing the game to make yourself feel better I suppose?

Ahahaha that is gold! Made me laigh 

[Adanu]

Waydester wrote...

Adanu wrote...

I'd almost call you a troll except that I actually know some people who give 'criticism' as stupidly as you do.

Coming here and bad mouthing the game to make yourself feel better I suppose?

Ahahaha that is gold! Made me laigh 

Sarcasm or from my 'point'?

[glitter_guld]

It is sad to be totally alone in one's opinion.

[Lord Gremlin]

Painkiller Resurrection was worse. But yeah, few games are that bad. Then again if you compare DA2 to MMO it's average.
While the way OP is written is dubious, I share the general idea.

[Always Alice]

I wouldn't say it was one of the worst games I've ever played, but it has some serious issues that I hope are addressed in future installments. The flaws have been discussed at length in other threads so I'm not going to continue beating a dead horse.

I did like the family aspect, friend/rivalry system, and how the characters had lives outside of Hawke. Here's to hoping DA3 takes the best from both!

[glitter_guld]

Always Alice wrote...

I wouldn't say it was one of the worst games I've ever played, but it has some serious issues that I hope are addressed in future installments. The flaws have been discussed at length in other threads so I'm not going to continue beating a dead horse.

I did like the family aspect, friend/rivalry system, and how the characters had lives outside of Hawke. Here's to hoping DA3 takes the best from both!

I don't think the game has any serious issues anymore. It runs perfectly smoothly on PS3. If you mean conceptually designed things that you didn't like or expected to see, but did not, then it is really a perception issue and not a flaw. I can compare RPG games starting with Betrayal in Krondor (did you play it?), and I can say that DA2 has everything for an excellent RPG - unique, attractive and well-designed characters (well, except Tallis), breathtaking voiceover, interesting plot, numerous cool, witty, sexy banter, love and relationship, ridiculous to tears combat system, which you can tweak, however to be almost automatic. What else do you need? Seriously. Comments like "Tis is the worst game I Ever played" sound like ... well, not very ... mmm, advanced.

[Ekyri]

BhallSpawn1011 wrote...

With all this to do, about the Mass Effect 3 endings I felt like I should take a minute to remind myself how I made the worst $60 purchase of my life with Dragon Age 2.

You dont buy a lot of games, do you

Modifié par Ekyri, 25 mars 2012 - 03:47 .

[Huntress]

BhallSpawn1011 wrote...

$60 purchase of my life.

Here I have spare cash:

Now stop crying  and play outside until dinner time.

[Dessalines]

I like Dragon Age 2. I enjoy the different plot twists, and I thought it was a lot better than the Dragon Age: Origins plot of let's gather an army and storm the castle. I saw that in Monty Python's Holy Grail.
I thought the characters were more realistic compared, and they had their own wants and desires that played out the entire story, and not one mission. I love that.
I like time in a game, but Bioware really needed to show time passing in a better way.
I enjoyed the banter between the people, and I love how the dialogue folllows the story. I really hated that in Dragon Age: Origins, you could much finished most of the dialogue options, before being half-way through the game.

[DJ0000]

I've recently come back to DA2 after about a year, and to my surprise I'm enjoying it more than I thought I would.

Certainly features I still dislike but not as bad as I remember it being so far.

[Always Alice]

glitter_guld wrote...
I don't think the game has any serious issues anymore. It runs perfectly smoothly on PS3. If you mean conceptually designed things that you didn't like or expected to see, but did not, then it is really a perception issue and not a flaw.

I meant issues in regards to recycled, limited environments, the waves of enemies, the IQ of everyone in Kirkwall, and how choices amounted to little. And I would certainly consider those things to be flaws.

I can compare RPG games starting with Betrayal in Krondor (did you play it?),

 I never heard about it until now.Is this a game that just came out recently?

 unique, attractive and well-designed characters (well, except Tallis), breathtaking voiceover,

This I agree with. I loved the cast of the second game, and the VA's were incredible. And the banter was great.

interesting plot

And here we'll have to disagree. I think DA2 had the making of what could have been a great plot. The way the story was set up intrigued me, and it really did have potential. The fact that the presentation failed, imo, is why I consider it to be so utterly disappointing. Act III was a complete trainwreck. I can never consider the Thrask-Grace resolution and Orsino-the-Harvester to be anything other than terrible writing when siding with the mages.
 

 What else do you need?

Innovative environments, significant choices,the majority of in-game population not acting like idiots? 
 

Comments like "Tis is the worst game I Ever played" sound like ... well, not very ... mmm, advanced.

Maybe not, but this is BSN. If you can't complain here, where else can you go? Besides, if you buy a product for $60 I think you have the right to complain if you're not satisfied. I do think saying it's one of the worst games ever is extreme, but whatever. Different strokes for different folks.

And if you think this is bad, you should see the Mass Effect 3 forums xD

[glitter_guld]

I liked DA2 plot. It is way better than, say, in ME3, where we all were breaking our minds about how to defeat the reapers, and here it is, from under the bed, Liara gets a Mysterious Ancient Alien Device, which kills them all!! How shockingly innovative and clever. In DA2 we could, of course, kill another super villain, but we already did it in DA:O and in all the other games, so it was OK for a change.

Orsino is OK. He has explanation turning into that, but Grace was simply stupid, and stupid should never get a demon inside. What did she turn into, by the way? It always matters which demon type do they turn. Was it pride or rage? It points to what feeling they cannot control. Poor Thrask was just in the way.

Speaking of which, if even Orsino had a demon inside, then the templars were right to purge the circle, because every new child accepted to the circle was under danger to be infected. I would do it myself if I knew. Meridith should be dismissed regardless, as a fanatic and mindless lyrium addict.

Modifié par glitter_guld, 25 mars 2012 - 05:57 .

[caradoc2000]

Always Alice wrote...

I can compare RPG games starting with Betrayal in Krondor (did you play it?),

 I never heard about it until now.Is this a game that just came out recently?

Betrayal at Krondor is 20 years old.

glitter_guld wrote...

Orsino is OK. He has explanation turning
into that, but Grace was simply stupid, and stupid should never get a
demon inside. What did she turn into, by the way? It always matters
which demon type do they turn. Was it pride or rage?

Pride.

Modifié par caradoc2000, 25 mars 2012 - 05:39 .

[glitter_guld]

Pride makes sense. At some point a mage gives in to an emotion, ceases control and a demon takes over. Anders said clearly that he doesn't even remember well what he does when in vengeance form.

[Always Alice]

Betrayal at Krondor is 20 years old.

Haha, I knew I should have looked it up before asking.

glitter_guld wrote...

I liked DA2 plot. It is way better than, say, in ME3, where we all were breaking our minds about how to defeat the reapers, and here it is, from under the bed, Liara gets a Mysterious Ancient Alien Device, which kills them all!! How shockingly innovative and clever. In DA2 we could, of course, kill another super villain, but we already did it in DA:O and in all the other games, so it was OK for a change.

I loved the basic premise behind the game, in that it would revolve around how Hawke became the Champion and the part he/she had to play in the rebllion.My main problem is that throughout the game, Hawke ends up where he is due to circumstance. He doesn't move the plot; the plot moves him. In DAO you get the feeling you make an impact on the world (which is why I can never fully understand how Hawke is allegedly the most important person in Thedas when I feel the Warden does more),while Hawke essentially becomes a figurehead.

Iol the Crucible thing was very convenient and I had issues with that plotline as well, but it really feels like Shepard is making a difference throughout the game in gaining all these allies to fight this unstoppable force. The whole thing felt epic (imo),while DA2's story felt incomplete. I liked the first two acts, but during the third the whole thing falls apart (again, imo).

Orsino is OK. He has explanation turning into that

I could easily see him doing that if Hawke sides with the templars, but when he/she sides with the mages? It seems like such a stretch, even if he does feel desperate.

Speaking of which, if even Orsino had a demon inside, then the templars were right to purge the circle, because every new child accepted to the circle was under danger to be infected. I would do it myself if I knew. Meridith should be dismissed regardless, as a fanatic and mindless lyrium addict.

Meredith and Orsino both needed to be eliminated, so I was happy to get the chance. Not only is he willing to give into demons, but there's that whole bit with Leandra and Quentin.

Modifié par Always Alice, 25 mars 2012 - 06:46 .

[BhallSpawn1011]

glitter_guld wrote...

It is sad to be totally alone in one's opinion.

I wouldn't  know, most people who played DA2 felt the same way I did.

[Tezzajh]

BhallSpawn1011 wrote...

glitter_guld wrote...

It is sad to be totally alone in one's opinion.

I wouldn't  know, most people who played DA2 felt the same way I did.

I do but why the need to keep saying it? the game was said to be rubbish the day of release, the week of release and the month of release, unless you wanted to call it rubbish on the 1 year annivesery I see no point it bringing it up again. I think the point of just how rubbish it was got through and thats why they scrapped it, which is a pity as the expansion might of saved the rep of dragon age 2

[glitter_guld]

It is pity if they did that because of forum screaming. Regardless what some people think, forums do not reflect the opinion of most of the people, who played the game. They are like polls during elections. You read one thing, but people vote for the other.

In addition, I do not remember many good games post BG2, which were not proclaimed rubbish. NWN was rubbish, Oblivion and Skyrim are rubbish, DA2 is rubbish, KOTOR II was rubbish and so on and so forth. Whatever.

[Savber100]

DA2 had a wonderful idea that was butchered by god-awful presentation. It tried too hard to be "hip" when its strength was that it was a reminder that old hardcore RPG can still thrive etc.

ME3 had a cliched, bad idea with excellent presentation that only faltered at the very end.

[SuperiorOlive]

DA2 is not awful, nor is it awesome. Its a decidedly mediocre game. If its the worst thing you've ever played, well...count yourself lucky. People hate it so much because DAO was such a great game and DA2 was the middling game we were handed as a sequel. If it was a stand-alone title, it would mostly have been ignored, like most average games. On the other hand, the enjoyment I got out of it mostly derived from its connection to DAO. I played it once through, and I doubt I will ever do so again, unlike DAO which I've played a few times through.

[gangly369]

Sorry mate, but there are a lot of games out there that suck compared to DA2. Two Worlds for instance *shiver