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[Arl Raylen]

After each wave -- if the Reapers succeed -- they get their fleet fully repaired and replenished and are well informed about their next adversary. Assume that the Reaper's have their full capabilities; meaning they can indoctrinate forces of the other side potentially and turn them towards their cause.

Now here is the gauntlet:

Wave 1

The Reaper Fleet vs. 21st Century Humanity as we know it. The world has a 50 year warning (beginning in 2012) of the coming Reaper invasion in order to prepare. The warning is sent in a way that world leaders are entirely convinced that this invasion will occur, and they begin making the necessary arrangements immediately.

Wave 2

The Reaper Fleet vs. The UNSC of Halo Lore. The UNSC was nearly crushed by the Covenant...can they withstand the Reapers? They get no warning; the invasion occurs right as the UNSC is at the height of its power.

Wave 3

The Reaper Fleet vs. The Covenant of Halo Lore. The Covenant are defeated by the UNSC due to internal conflict, but by themselves their technology is impressive. They are attacked at the height of their power, before discovering any humans.

Wave 4

The Reaper Fleet vs. The full force of the Prothean Empire. Assume the cycle before the Protheans was able to shut down the Keeper signal and they have the same oppurtunity to fight back as Shep's cycle does. Will their advanced technology allow them to succeed in conventional warfare against the Reapers?

Wave 5

The Reaper Fleet vs. The Star Wars galaxy. The Reapers come across the SW galaxy and see it as a place where organic life has run rampant; and see it as fit for their cycle of destruction. Can they contend with such an advanced organic society?

Wave 6

The Reaper Fleet vs. The combined fleets of Shepard's cycle and the Prothean cycle. Can this group finally beat the Reapers conventionally?


Wave 7

The Reaper Fleet vs. The Warhammer 40K Galaxy. Let's say the Reapers come across the Necrons first and align themelves with them due to their common goals. Does this alliance have any chance of success against the rest of the WH40k galaxy?

Wave 8

The Reaper Fleet vs. the Predators. Does this advanced spacefaring organic race known for their hunting abilities have what it takes to finally end the Reaper's cycle of destruction?

Where do you think the Reaper's fail? Or do you think they run the gauntlet?

I'll add more to this if I can think of any creative ideas for more waves...


EDIT: Added a few waves based on some of the great discussions going on in the thread.

Modifié par Arl Raylen, 26 mars 2012 - 05:51 .

[Arl Raylen]

Haha anybody? I was hoping to read some replies so I could quench my boredom...

[Atrumitos]

I think they'd wipe on 6 tbh. I don't know much about 5.

But I'll give you a wave 7. Reapers versus the Warhammer 40k Imperial Navy ;P

Each Capital Ship is almost 4kilometers long and 2 wide and carries just enough firepower and attack craft to justify it. There's a ton of smaller ones too... Oh and they carry weapons that annihilate whole planets!

[legion999]

1. No.
2. Maybe
3. Maybe
4. That would be close
5. Yes
6. Yes

[phrizek]

 The Haloverse would wipe the floor with the Reapers, and it wouldn't even be close. For some reason, the weaponry in the Mass Effect universe is really wimpy. For instance, the main gun on a Sovereign-class Reaper has a destructive power between 132 to 454 kilotons of TNT according to the codex. For comparison, a Super MAC Gun like the ones from the beginning of Halo 2 unleash 5325 megatons of energy in a single round. If you line up every single Reaper in the galaxy single file, I'm guessing a single UNSC Super MAC round could probably rip through most of them.

Modifié par phrizek, 25 mars 2012 - 08:01 .

[Cydrone]

Atrumitos wrote...

I think they'd wipe on 6 tbh. I don't know much about 5.

But I'll give you a wave 7. Reapers versus the Warhammer 40k Imperial Navy ;P

Each Capital Ship is almost 4kilometers long and 2 wide and carries just enough firepower and attack craft to justify it. There's a ton of smaller ones too... Oh and they carry weapons that annihilate whole planets!

haha YES. For the Emperor!

[GoblinSapper]

phrizek wrote...

 The Haloverse would wipe the floor with the Reapers, and it wouldn't even be close. For some reason, the weaponry in the Mass Effect universe is really wimpy. For instance, the main gun on a Sovereign-class Reaper has a destructive power between 132 to 454 kilotons of TNT according to the codex. For comparison, a Super MAC Gun like the ones from the beginning of Halo 2 unleash 5325 megatons of energy in a single round. If you line up every single Reaper in the galaxy single file, I'm guessing a single UNSC Super MAC round could probably rip through most of them.

My universes made up numbers can beat your universes made up numbers.

[Sierra163]

Wave 1 probably wouldn't be much of a challenge at all

Wave 2 would probably fair a little better since they don't rely on the relays for going long distances and direct fire from a capitol ship super MAC might be able to take out a reaper or two, but the UNSC was better at Guerrilla warfare than strait up fleet action. (Reapers most likely still win)

Wave 3 the Covenant would probably give them a run for their money in shier numbers and a 'total war' mentality, but there's an extremely likely chance their high command could be indoctrinate considering how zealous and superstitious they are (might even believe the Reapers are the Forrunners returning) Advantage to the Reapers but they'll take heavy losses.

[Reptilian Rob]

UNSC have MAC guns.

Reapers would be stopped right there.

[Lyrandori]

I'd like to see Reapers even try to approach a Necron Monolith.

[Arl Raylen]

phrizek wrote...

 The Haloverse would wipe the floor with the Reapers, and it wouldn't even be close. For some reason, the weaponry in the Mass Effect universe is really wimpy. For instance, the main gun on a Sovereign-class Reaper has a destructive power between 132 to 454 kilotons of TNT according to the codex. For comparison, a Super MAC Gun like the ones from the beginning of Halo 2 unleash 5325 megatons of energy in a single round. If you line up every single Reaper in the galaxy single file, I'm guessing a single UNSC Super MAC round could probably rip through most of them.

Hmm well it is true that Super MAC guns are very powerful but Reaper Kinetic barriers are designed specifically to defend against weapons like that; while Covenant shields weren't.

[Reptilian Rob]

Lyrandori wrote...

I'd like to see Reapers even try to approach a Necron Monolith.

Necrons never truly "die" so they would win easily. 

[Lyrandori]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Lyrandori wrote...

I'd like to see Reapers even try to approach a Necron Monolith.

Necrons never truly "die" so they would win easily. 

Yep it was the point hehe! Heck maybe even the Imperium of Man could do it, the 40K universe would eat Reapers for breakfast.

[shadey]

reapers seem pretty susceptible to nukes.

I think a 21st century army could give them enough pain if they landed, no way we could take them in a space battle

we'd be obliterating our own cities in the process though

reapers verse a 40k universe would be terribly bad for the reapers.

Modifié par shadey, 25 mars 2012 - 08:18 .

[phrizek]

GoblinSapper wrote...

phrizek wrote...

 The Haloverse would wipe the floor with the Reapers, and it wouldn't even be close. For some reason, the weaponry in the Mass Effect universe is really wimpy. For instance, the main gun on a Sovereign-class Reaper has a destructive power between 132 to 454 kilotons of TNT according to the codex. For comparison, a Super MAC Gun like the ones from the beginning of Halo 2 unleash 5325 megatons of energy in a single round. If you line up every single Reaper in the galaxy single file, I'm guessing a single UNSC Super MAC round could probably rip through most of them.

My universes made up numbers can beat your universes made up numbers.

Yeah, that's kind of the point of this thread. 

[granyte]

phrizek wrote...

 The Haloverse would wipe the floor with the Reapers, and it wouldn't even be close. For some reason, the weaponry in the Mass Effect universe is really wimpy. For instance, the main gun on a Sovereign-class Reaper has a destructive power between 132 to 454 kilotons of TNT according to the codex. For comparison, a Super MAC Gun like the ones from the beginning of Halo 2 unleash 5325 megatons of energy in a single round. If you line up every single Reaper in the galaxy single file, I'm guessing a single UNSC Super MAC round could probably rip through most of them.

or maybe the halo universe use technoblabla with hudge numbers

[Arl Raylen]

shadey wrote...

reapers seem pretty susceptible to nukes.

I think a 21st century army could give them enough pain if they landed, no way we could take them in a space battle

we'd be obliterating our own cities in the process though

reapers verse a 40k universe would be terribly bad for the reapers.

The 40k universe sounds pretty impressive. I should try those games out.

[IronVanguard]

Wave 5 I think they'd lose.
As I recall barriers don't stop energy beams, and aren't pretty much all weapons in Star Wars energy?
Depends on who they were fighting also.
The Empire had ships as larger or bigger than Reapers, with whole batteries of turbolasers.

The Rebels would just hit them in the exhaust port.

[Sierra163]

Arl Raylen wrote...

shadey wrote...

reapers seem pretty susceptible to nukes.

I think a 21st century army could give them enough pain if they landed, no way we could take them in a space battle

we'd be obliterating our own cities in the process though

reapers verse a 40k universe would be terribly bad for the reapers.

The 40k universe sounds pretty impressive. I should try those games out.

Yeah 40K is kinda crazy. Friggin space marine main weapon is pretty much a machine gun that shoots rockets instaed of bullets XD

[jarms48]

Wave 1: Even with 50 years of preparation I am not sure, we have no fleet but unlike the Mass Effect universe we don't depend on Mass Effect technology, I can see us fighting them in an unwinnable war of attrition with millions of tanks, ships and planes. But in the end I think we would destroy ourselves with nuclear armageddon.

Wave 2: Would act just like the Covenant invasion, they would win isolated space battles, outnumbering the enemy 3 to 1. I do see UNSC ships faring better against the reapers in the terms of raw fire power. As a large majority of ships carry nukes, a MAC cannon that runs the length of the vessel and hundreds of missile launchers. In the end however I think the UNSC would be able to defeat the Reapers once they reach the inner colonies.

Wave 3: I see the Covenant winning this one, because if the UNSC could beat the Reapers and the Covenant practically annihilated the UNSC.

Wave 4: Not knowing much about the Prothean Empire but seeing as I thought we could defeat the Reapers in conventional warfare I don't see how a more advanced and widespread civilization couldn't.

Wave 5: Two words Death star, if that fails a single Imperial Star Destroyer is 3 Kilometers long and last time I checked that was bigger than a Reaper and the Galactic Empire could mass produce them easily.

Wave 6: See Wave 4

Wave 7: The Warhammer 40k universe can beat any other science fiction universe that it comes across, the only one that could stand a chance is the star wars universe. The Imperium of Man would win on the defensive as hyperspace is only localized in the star wars galaxy, where as warp space is everywhere and it would be safer for the Imperium to travel when inside the Star Wars Universe as there are no demons to contend with.

[mooney6023]

Wave 8: The United Federation of Planets. I mean, are the Reapers that much worse than the Borg?

[PseudoticA]

Arl Raylen wrote...

shadey wrote...

reapers seem pretty susceptible to nukes.

I think a 21st century army could give them enough pain if they landed, no way we could take them in a space battle

we'd be obliterating our own cities in the process though

reapers verse a 40k universe would be terribly bad for the reapers.

The 40k universe sounds pretty impressive. I should try those games out.

40k Is amazing, check some number from the lore.. that sci fi universe was made so vast, that i don't even know something else that comes close (excuse my bad english)

[jarms48]

mooney6023 wrote...

Wave 8: The United Federation of Planets. I mean, are the Reapers that much worse than the Borg?

Star Trek? I don't see them faring as well as the Mass Effect Galaxy and the Borg medicore.

[MOELANDER]

Star Wars would wipe the floor with the reapers for two reasons:

Ion Cannons and flexibility. Ion Cannons are widely available ion the SW universe and fire a blast, that disables electronics, any questions?
Fighters are flexible and can mount ion cannons and carry Ion-Pulse missiles, any more questions?

[mooney6023]

jarms48 wrote...

mooney6023 wrote...

Wave 8: The United Federation of Planets. I mean, are the Reapers that much worse than the Borg?

Star Trek? I don't see them faring as well as the Mass Effect Galaxy and the Borg medicore.

Well, the Borg cubes and spheres seemed to be on par with reapers in size.  But I have know idea what the stopping power of a phaser or photon torpedo is comparitively.

The real question is.  Could the Royal Manticorian Navy and Honor Harrington take them out in wave 9?

Modifié par mooney6023, 25 mars 2012 - 08:40 .