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[Mixxer5]

Iwillbeback wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Anything in star wars will kill a reaper with absolute ease.

Nothing can damage a Sovereign class Reaper without the Sovereign class reaper damaging itself.

In ME universe probably. But SW universe is far more advanced technologically. 

[Texhnolyze101]

Iwillbeback wrote...


Wave 1

The Reaper Fleet vs. 21st Century Humanity as we know it.  = Reaper Win

Wave 2

The Reaper Fleet vs. The UNSC of Halo Lore. = Reapers Win
Wave 3

The Reaper Fleet vs. The Covenant of Halo Lore. = Reapers Win

Wave 4

The Reaper Fleet vs. The full force of the Prothean Empire. = This is hard, the reapers would suffer heavy losses but they would win because of their Sovereign class ships.

Wave 5

The Reaper Fleet vs. The Star Wars galaxy. = Reapers Win
Wave 6

The Reaper Fleet vs. The combined fleets of Shepard's cycle and the Prothean cycle. Can this group finally beat the Reapers conventionally?



= Reapers win + Heavy losses

If you think a bunch of pathetic cuddle fish will beat ANYTHING in star wars your kidding yourself.

[Iwillbeback]

Slash1667 wrote...



Just as a side note, after playing Mass Effect 1 last week I noticed something. Soveriegn's shield could take a hell of a beating. Once penetrated there was no protection what so ever. One shot from an Alliance cruiser (I think it was anyway) went straight through Soveriegn.

Sovereign Shields weren't penetrated. 

[Slash1667]

jarms48 wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

jarms48 wrote...
Photon Torpedeos ignore shielding, much more effective.

No they dont this is never stated anywhere and shown to be not true plenty of times in all of the series. They also have nowhere near the yield that some of the star wars weapons have, mathmaticaly. Star wars doesnt need Ion cannons because its Turbolasers are so powerful reaper kinetic barriers would simply fold under the first few shots since those barriers can be taken down by sustained fire from Mass effect dreadnaughts who's main guns only have the force of about 38 kilotons

They do in the video games and I beleive the Death Star Reactor was ray shielded so only photon torpedeos could penetrate it.

Actually it was PROTON torpedos. They didn't ignore the shielding, they were strong enough to penetrate it.

[Iwillbeback]

Mixxer5 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Anything in star wars will kill a reaper with absolute ease.

Nothing can damage a Sovereign class Reaper without the Sovereign class reaper damaging itself.

In ME universe probably. But SW universe is far more advanced technologically. 

Doesn't matter only Sovereign class ships can kill themselves.
They would wreck millions of ships with ease.

[Texhnolyze101]

Mixxer5 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Anything in star wars will kill a reaper with absolute ease.

Nothing can damage a Sovereign class Reaper without the Sovereign class reaper damaging itself.

In ME universe probably. But SW universe is far more advanced technologically. 

^ This the tech in star wars is to much for the reapers to handle is just best if they stay out of that part of the galaxy as the sith empire will put them to absolute shame and are we forgetting about the force? vader would crush harbinger before he shot his little death ray at him.

[Slash1667]

Iwillbeback wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...



Just as a side note, after playing Mass Effect 1 last week I noticed something. Soveriegn's shield could take a hell of a beating. Once penetrated there was no protection what so ever. One shot from an Alliance cruiser (I think it was anyway) went straight through Soveriegn.

Sovereign Shields weren't penetrated. 

Then how did an Alliance ship get a through and through shot on him?

[Lmaoboat]

The Star Trek universe would in because they would just alter the forward deflector array to cause an inverse tachyon pulse which would cause a graviton wave in the Heisenberg compensator plasma conduit self-sealing isoliner, at some point killing the Reapers. Thought they would mange to beam a husk aboard, who would knock Worf over his console.

Modifié par Lmaoboat, 25 mars 2012 - 09:28 .

[Draconis6666]

Slash1667 wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...

The Federation Star Fleet or the Klingon Deep Space Fleet from The Next Generation on would wipe the floor with the Reapers for the same reason the Galactic Empire would. Energy weapons. Apparently a photon torpedo has a yield of 25 isotons, according to an episode of Star Trek:Voyager 50 isotons would destroy a small planet. With out the adaptability of the Borg the Reapers would be dog meat JUST from the photons. Some Star Fleet ship carry an upgraded torpedo, the Quantum Torpedo which was designed to fight the Borg.

No, I don't see Star Fleet having any trouble with the Reapers

BTW Star Trek is set 300 years AFTER the timeline in Mass Effect

The problem with this is that an isoton is a fictional measurement, but there is alot of math where people tried to figure out what it was I cant remember but I believe it came out to be that a Photon torpedo is approximately 68 megatons star trek was always very lose on science making up terms and measurements to suit its needs lol

Yes it is a fictional measurement which is why I added "according to an episode of Star Trek:Voyager 50 isotons would destroy a small planet". With no exact or real measurment I had to pull a comment made in an episode of the show for reference.

However you are correct that a photon torpedo, as explained how they work, would in reality only yeild about 64.4 megatons. We're dealing with fiction here and using Star Trek canon we are able to throw real life out the window and say that 25 "isotons" would more than likely wreck a reaper's shields and possibly the reaper inside.

Just as a side note, after playing Mass Effect 1 last week I noticed something. Soveriegn's shield could take a hell of a beating. Once penetrated there was no protection what so ever. One shot from an Alliance cruiser (I think it was anyway) went straight through Soveriegn.

Right and yes the reapers shields took a hell of a beating but your also tallking about a situation where the strongest firepower they could bring to bear on the reapers was only about 38 kilotons. a single photon torpedo has more firepower than every dreadnaught in the citadel fleet's maingun combined.

So even with startrek tech explained with real science the reapers have no chance, the reaper shields are also kinetic barriers, there is no reason to think they would even be effective against directed energy weapons like phasers.  This is why they have no chance at all against star wars whos weapon powers are in magnitudes higher than star trek by hundreds of times.

[Asnine112]

The UNSC would roflstomp the Reapers

****, their FTL is already light years ahead of what the Reapers have. That and Spartans would laugh at Husks and Brutes.


WH 40k they would just laugh at the Reapers.

Modifié par Asnine112, 25 mars 2012 - 09:29 .

[Exodus2000]

I'd say the reapers wouldn't stand a chance against 40k LOL!

[Texhnolyze101]

Iwillbeback wrote...

Mixxer5 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Anything in star wars will kill a reaper with absolute ease.

Nothing can damage a Sovereign class Reaper without the Sovereign class reaper damaging itself.

In ME universe probably. But SW universe is far more advanced technologically. 

Doesn't matter only Sovereign class ships can kill themselves.
They would wreck millions of ships with ease.

You must not know anything about star wars.

[Draconis6666]

Slash1667 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...



Just as a side note, after playing Mass Effect 1 last week I noticed something. Soveriegn's shield could take a hell of a beating. Once penetrated there was no protection what so ever. One shot from an Alliance cruiser (I think it was anyway) went straight through Soveriegn.

Sovereign Shields weren't penetrated. 

Then how did an Alliance ship get a through and through shot on him?

his shields were disabled when shepard killed soverign-saren. That is not to say that their shields are impenetrable they are not, turians killed several over palavan and one is clearly seen having its forward half blown apart over earth.

[Iwillbeback]

Slash1667 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...



Just as a side note, after playing Mass Effect 1 last week I noticed something. Soveriegn's shield could take a hell of a beating. Once penetrated there was no protection what so ever. One shot from an Alliance cruiser (I think it was anyway) went straight through Soveriegn.

Sovereign Shields weren't penetrated. 

Then how did an Alliance ship get a through and through shot on him?

Sovereign shields only went down because he took complete control of Saren.
He couldn't open the Citadel's relay any other way.
When Saren died sovereign lost his investment and his shields.

Modifié par Iwillbeback, 25 mars 2012 - 09:30 .

[Draconis6666]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Mixxer5 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Anything in star wars will kill a reaper with absolute ease.

Nothing can damage a Sovereign class Reaper without the Sovereign class reaper damaging itself.

In ME universe probably. But SW universe is far more advanced technologically. 

Doesn't matter only Sovereign class ships can kill themselves.
They would wreck millions of ships with ease.

You must not know anything about star wars.

He doesnt even know anything about Mass Effect itself, turians killed Soverign class ships with just their dreadnaughts 

[Iwillbeback]

Draconis6666 wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...



Just as a side note, after playing Mass Effect 1 last week I noticed something. Soveriegn's shield could take a hell of a beating. Once penetrated there was no protection what so ever. One shot from an Alliance cruiser (I think it was anyway) went straight through Soveriegn.

Sovereign Shields weren't penetrated. 

Then how did an Alliance ship get a through and through shot on him?

his shields were disabled when shepard killed soverign-saren. That is not to say that their shields are impenetrable they are not, turians killed several over palavan and one is clearly seen having its forward half blown apart over earth.

They did but they weren't Sovereign class Reapers.

[Draconis6666]

Iwillbeback wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...



Just as a side note, after playing Mass Effect 1 last week I noticed something. Soveriegn's shield could take a hell of a beating. Once penetrated there was no protection what so ever. One shot from an Alliance cruiser (I think it was anyway) went straight through Soveriegn.

Sovereign Shields weren't penetrated. 

Then how did an Alliance ship get a through and through shot on him?

his shields were disabled when shepard killed soverign-saren. That is not to say that their shields are impenetrable they are not, turians killed several over palavan and one is clearly seen having its forward half blown apart over earth.

They did but they weren't Sovereign class Reapers.

yes they were, and the one that has the forward part blown off over earth definatly is you see that one first hand. not just in the codex

[Iwillbeback]

Nobody killed Sovereign class Reapers.
Capital ships aren't sovereign class reapers.

[Alexlightning]

1: hands down, we lose
2: it be extremely close
3:covenant would definitly win
4: it be very close, but I think th reapers would win
5: not a chance in hell, unless they can convince the Yuuhzahn vong, They share beliefs that all civilzation with technology must be wiped out, but the fact that the reapers are machines may make this impossible.
6: it be close, but I think we would win

[Draconis6666]

Iwillbeback wrote...

Nobody killed Sovereign class Reapers.
Capital ships aren't sovereign class reapers.

uh yes they are....


* CAPITAL SHIPS are Sovereign-class Reapers two kilometers in length. They typically target the dreadnoughts, defense installations, and industrial cities of organic civilizations. Experts believe the Reapers harvest a single species of organics during each cycle of extinction to create these massive ships. Some capital ships are capable of launching small drones equivalent to fighters. 

thats right out of the codex

as is this

Unlike the mass effect relays that they created, Reapers do not have quantum shields. Locking itself down at a quantum level would leave a Reaper unaware of its surroundings until the shielding deactivated. Instead, Reapers rely on kinetic barriers.In the case of a Reaper capital ship, these kinetic barriers can hold off the firepower of two dreadnoughts simultaneously, but three clearly causes strain, and four typically results in destruction. Weapons designed to maximize heat damage, such as the Thanix series, show better results against the Reapers than pure kinetic impacts.

Modifié par Draconis6666, 25 mars 2012 - 09:36 .

[Slash1667]

Lmaoboat wrote...

The Star Trek universe would in because they would just alter the forward deflector array to cause an inverse tachyon pulse which would cause a graviton wave in the Heisenberg compensator plasma conduit self-sealing isoliner, at some point killing the Reapers. Thought they would mange to beam a husk aboard, who would knock Worf over his console.

Yep, that's one of the ways I see it....including the Husk part.

Why is it that Worf can lay a beat down on just about any klingon or Entreprise crewman but let him fight anyone else and he gets his butt handed to him?

[Exodus2000]

Draconis6666 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Nobody killed Sovereign class Reapers.
Capital ships aren't sovereign class reapers.

uh yes they are....


* CAPITAL SHIPS are Sovereign-class Reapers two kilometers in length. They typically target the dreadnoughts, defense installations, and industrial cities of organic civilizations. Experts believe the Reapers harvest a single species of organics during each cycle of extinction to create these massive ships. Some capital ships are capable of launching small drones equivalent to fighters. 

thats right out of the codex

LOL He/she got pwned.

[jarms48]

Slash1667 wrote...

jarms48 wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

jarms48 wrote...
Photon Torpedeos ignore shielding, much more effective.

No they dont this is never stated anywhere and shown to be not true plenty of times in all of the series. They also have nowhere near the yield that some of the star wars weapons have, mathmaticaly. Star wars doesnt need Ion cannons because its Turbolasers are so powerful reaper kinetic barriers would simply fold under the first few shots since those barriers can be taken down by sustained fire from Mass effect dreadnaughts who's main guns only have the force of about 38 kilotons

They do in the video games and I beleive the Death Star Reactor was ray shielded so only photon torpedeos could penetrate it.

Actually it was PROTON torpedos. They didn't ignore the shielding, they were strong enough to penetrate it.

Spelling mistake, my bad.

[cyric085]

modern day vs reapers

we win, bioware just writes another lazy Deus ex machina for mass effect

winning the war in less than 1 min

beat that star wars

Modifié par cyric085, 25 mars 2012 - 09:37 .

[Draconis6666]

jarms48 wrote...

Slash1667 wrote...

jarms48 wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

jarms48 wrote...
Photon Torpedeos ignore shielding, much more effective.

No they dont this is never stated anywhere and shown to be not true plenty of times in all of the series. They also have nowhere near the yield that some of the star wars weapons have, mathmaticaly. Star wars doesnt need Ion cannons because its Turbolasers are so powerful reaper kinetic barriers would simply fold under the first few shots since those barriers can be taken down by sustained fire from Mass effect dreadnaughts who's main guns only have the force of about 38 kilotons

They do in the video games and I beleive the Death Star Reactor was ray shielded so only photon torpedeos could penetrate it.

Actually it was PROTON torpedos. They didn't ignore the shielding, they were strong enough to penetrate it.

Spelling mistake, my bad.

proton torpedos would actualy probably be effected by reaper barriers i think, based on how they work, but star wars weapons are so powerful i doubt reaper barriers would help anyway. 

Edit: did some quick math a single heavy turbolaser has as much firepower as 2.6 billion everest class dreadnaughts, each Imperial class II stardestroyer has 5... there are at least 50 known and named Imperial II class stardestroyers and probably alot more in reality.

Modifié par Draconis6666, 25 mars 2012 - 09:45 .