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[Golferguy758]

Warhammer 40k Grey Knights would slaughter the Reapers.

Best.Fluff.Ever.

[Ad_Hoc]

 Wave 1

Doubt Reapers would even bother with us, but if they did, it would be over in a day, since ME universe Earth didnt stand a chance.

Wave 2

Didnt play Halo 

Wave 3

Didnt play Halo 

Wave 4

Think reapers would destroy Protheans, but it would take more time, since they wouldnt attack them head on, they would cause a civil war or something along the lines of Rachni Wars to weaken the, plus inductrination of key politicians and or military.

Wave 5

Star wars  galaxy would win i think, if its Empire from the OT, they have lots of star destroyer and two death stars, considering that smallest star destroyer is large than Desteny Assention, and have energy weapons and not kinetic weapons. Also there is no problems with army movements, no mass relays.

Wave 6

Think reapers would win anyway the same way they wont as in wave 4, slowly but surly

[eddieoctane]

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 1

The Reaper Fleet vs. 21st Century Humanity as we know it. The world has a 50 year warning (beginning in 2012) of the coming Reaper invasion in order to prepare. The warning is sent in a way that world leaders are entirely convinced that this invasion will occur, and they begin making the necessary arrangements immediately.

We'd be screwed. Best case scenario would be to hide the smallest population necessary to repopulate depe under ground and hope you can last until the Reapers lose interest.

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 2

The Reaper Fleet vs. The UNSC of Halo Lore. The UNSC was nearly crushed by the Covenant...can they withstand the Reapers? They get no warning; the invasion occurs right as the UNSC is at the height of its power.

Master Chief would just find a way to climb up Harbinger's back, jamb a grenade up somewhere critical, and silently watch as the Reaper went down. Lather, rinse, repeat. No hero in modern times has been as, well, comepletely unkillable as John-117.

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 3

The Reaper Fleet vs. The Covenant of Halo Lore. The Covenant are defeated by the UNSC due to internal conflict, but by themselves their technology is impressive. They are attacked at the height of their power, before discovering any humans.

Well, the Covenent got most of their tech from reverse-engineering Forerunner equipment. The Forerunners built the Halo network as well as the Ark. The Reapers may have have some advantages, but the Covenent had 5km-long ships with weapons designed to turn the surface of a planet to glass. Reapers lose this one, too.

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 4

The Reaper Fleet vs. The full force of the Prothean Empire. Assume the cycle before the Protheans was able to shut down the Keeper signal and they have the same oppurtunity to fight back as Shep's cycle does. Will their advanced technology allow them to succeed in conventional warfare against the Reapers?

Maybe. The Protheans had a much better grasp of the technology provided by the Reapers than the current cycle. They could possibly find a weakness in the Reapers that would give them the edge. I doubt it, though.

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 5

The Reaper Fleet vs. The Star Wars galaxy. The Reapers come across the SW galaxy and see it as a place where organic life has run rampant; and see it as fit for their cycle of destruction. Can they contend with such an advanced organic society?

The problem here is that you would also have to consider the power of the Force. Starkiller could pull a capital ship out of orbit. That alone would pose a significant problem for the Reapers. ME shields were designed to repel matter (even the Thanix is a particle weapon) but Star Wars uses directed energy. And don't forget the Sith at one point had tech capable of destroying entire stars. Not planets. Actual stars.

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 6

The Reaper Fleet vs. The combined fleets of Shepard's cycle and the Prothean cycle. Can this group finally beat the Reapers conventionally?

Maybe. We'd fair better than either cycle on it's own. But we'd still be limited by the Reaper tech we are still basing our technology on.

[Arl Raylen]

eddieoctane wrote...

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 1

The Reaper Fleet vs. 21st Century Humanity as we know it. The world has a 50 year warning (beginning in 2012) of the coming Reaper invasion in order to prepare. The warning is sent in a way that world leaders are entirely convinced that this invasion will occur, and they begin making the necessary arrangements immediately.

We'd be screwed. Best case scenario would be to hide the smallest population necessary to repopulate depe under ground and hope you can last until the Reapers lose interest.

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 2

The Reaper Fleet vs. The UNSC of Halo Lore. The UNSC was nearly crushed by the Covenant...can they withstand the Reapers? They get no warning; the invasion occurs right as the UNSC is at the height of its power.

Master Chief would just find a way to climb up Harbinger's back, jamb a grenade up somewhere critical, and silently watch as the Reaper went down. Lather, rinse, repeat. No hero in modern times has been as, well, comepletely unkillable as John-117.

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 3

The Reaper Fleet vs. The Covenant of Halo Lore. The Covenant are defeated by the UNSC due to internal conflict, but by themselves their technology is impressive. They are attacked at the height of their power, before discovering any humans.

Well, the Covenent got most of their tech from reverse-engineering Forerunner equipment. The Forerunners built the Halo network as well as the Ark. The Reapers may have have some advantages, but the Covenent had 5km-long ships with weapons designed to turn the surface of a planet to glass. Reapers lose this one, too.

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 4

The Reaper Fleet vs. The full force of the Prothean Empire. Assume the cycle before the Protheans was able to shut down the Keeper signal and they have the same oppurtunity to fight back as Shep's cycle does. Will their advanced technology allow them to succeed in conventional warfare against the Reapers?

Maybe. The Protheans had a much better grasp of the technology provided by the Reapers than the current cycle. They could possibly find a weakness in the Reapers that would give them the edge. I doubt it, though.

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 5

The Reaper Fleet vs. The Star Wars galaxy. The Reapers come across the SW galaxy and see it as a place where organic life has run rampant; and see it as fit for their cycle of destruction. Can they contend with such an advanced organic society?

The problem here is that you would also have to consider the power of the Force. Starkiller could pull a capital ship out of orbit. That alone would pose a significant problem for the Reapers. ME shields were designed to repel matter (even the Thanix is a particle weapon) but Star Wars uses directed energy. And don't forget the Sith at one point had tech capable of destroying entire stars. Not planets. Actual stars.

Arl Raylen wrote...
Wave 6

The Reaper Fleet vs. The combined fleets of Shepard's cycle and the Prothean cycle. Can this group finally beat the Reapers conventionally?

Maybe. We'd fair better than either cycle on it's own. But we'd still be limited by the Reaper tech we are still basing our technology on.

Don't forget in your analysis the possibility of Indoctrinated Spartans/Elites or even possibily indoctrinated factions of Jedi and Sith...

[CmdrSlander]

How about the Reapers vs. The BSG Universe (Human fleet + Cylons).

[eddieoctane]

Arl Raylen wrote...

Don't forget in your analysis the possibility of Indoctrinated Spartans/Elites or even possibily indoctrinated factions of Jedi and Sith...

Chief? Indoctrinated? Unlikely. Spartan shields can brush off directed energy weapons, so I doubt electromagnetic interference would be able to manipulate him. Considering the AI in the back of his head, infrasonic and ultrasonic attempts would likely be deteced by Cortana, and easily neutralized by active noise cancelation. Same would apply to any visual methods of indoctrination since Chief is behind a HUD the whole time. Yeah, I think he's still more than game. And how many times has John done things much more impressive than Shepard all by his lonesome. Don't doubt the MCPON.

And for the Jedi, well, Reapers are partly organic. They might be able to indoctrinate the Reapers right back with a Jedi mind trick. They also spend a great amount of time meditating and communing with the force, including speaking with Force ghosts on occasion. When Luke's will was faltering, Obi Wan was able to speak to him from beyond. It wouldn't be all that different than Cortana reminding you what is and isn't real, and little time is spent really exploring indoctrination and its effect one someone used to actually messing around with someone else's brain. It might become obvious to the victim when the Reapers are trying to control him. And again, Starkiller could throw a ship the size of a Reaper around from well beyond the range of indoctrination. If you can keep them at range, it's still game over.

[Arl Raylen]

Maybe Chief would be safe, but what about someone like Halsey? Indoctrinate someone like her and you could cripple the UNSC. The Reapers are smart, they would target someone with power who is easily manipulated. In the Star Wars Universe they may indoctrinate the head of the Rebellion or the Grand Moffs of the Empire to do their dirty work. Or if it's in the prequel Star Wars Galaxy they may indoctrinate the Chancellor (whoever was before Palpatine) or other Senators.

Modifié par Arl Raylen, 25 mars 2012 - 09:19 .

[jarms48]

I wonder how Mr Issac Clark from the dead space series can cope on a Reaper Dreadnought complete with a full compliment of Husk Ground forces.

Modifié par jarms48, 25 mars 2012 - 09:29 .

[tufy1]

shadey wrote...

reapers seem pretty susceptible to nukes.

That's just what I was thinking. We're definitely crazy enough to boobytrap our own solar system with nukes. With a century of warning, that's a LOT of nukes.

The problem here is that you would also have to consider the power of the Force. Starkiller could pull a capital ship out of orbit. That alone would pose a significant problem for the Reapers. ME shields were designed to repel matter (even the Thanix is a particle weapon) but Star Wars uses directed energy. And don't forget the Sith at one point had tech capable of destroying entire stars. Not planets. Actual stars.

 

Another problem is that SW galaxy is heavily militarized in times of conflict. According to some data, there's literally millions of warships, logistics vessels and fighters throughout the galaxy - that's a hell of a resistance on its own, never mind the Force or superweapons.

Modifié par tufy1, 25 mars 2012 - 09:30 .

[Gyroscopic_Trout]

Reapers vs. 40k Chaos Marines.

Why yes, that is space magic. And it is colour coded.

[DemGeth]

Wave 1

Reapers win and are bored by how easy it is.

Wave 2

Reapers indoc. Covenant, hack UNSC AI's. When sufficiently weakened Reapers entire Galaxy. Reapers win.

Wave 3 See above

Wave 4 Reapers destroy key manufacturing sites. Protheans fight a long hard fight and lose. Reapers win

Wave 5 Reapers indoc. the Dark side of the force causing Galactic wide war. At the same time the begin making in-roads with indoc. Jedi's and key govt. leaders. After centuries of these 2 fighting Reapers invade and win

Wave 6 Reaper indoc. Prothean leaders playing off of their superiority complex. The two sides start fighting a war. Reapers win.

[Carlthestrange]

Heh, Star Wars. I can see the Emperor and Darth Vader both force crushing Reapers.

[Axolotl Shepard]

Wave 10: Reapers vs. Forerunners.
Halo rings, all I got to say.

[Hsuzy1987]

*has sudden mental image of thousands of Predators running towards a line of Reaper ground forces*

[lyleoffmyspace]

jarms48 wrote...

mooney6023 wrote...

Wave 8: The United Federation of Planets. I mean, are the Reapers that much worse than the Borg?

Star Trek? I don't see them faring as well as the Mass Effect Galaxy and the Borg medicore.

Picard would try talking to the Reapers for an episode or two, before Sisko came in with the Defiant and kicked arse.

[mooney6023]

lyleoffmyspace wrote...

jarms48 wrote...

mooney6023 wrote...

Wave 8: The United Federation of Planets. I mean, are the Reapers that much worse than the Borg?

Star Trek? I don't see them faring as well as the Mass Effect Galaxy and the Borg medicore.

Picard would try talking to the Reapers for an episode or two, before Sisko came in with the Defiant and kicked arse.

Agreed.  I think the Star Trek fleets would vaporize the Reapers.  Unfortunately, I also agree with another post, Star Trek would lose the ground war.

[DemGeth]

mooney6023 wrote...

lyleoffmyspace wrote...

jarms48 wrote...

mooney6023 wrote...

Wave 8: The United Federation of Planets. I mean, are the Reapers that much worse than the Borg?

Star Trek? I don't see them faring as well as the Mass Effect Galaxy and the Borg medicore.

Picard would try talking to the Reapers for an episode or two, before Sisko came in with the Defiant and kicked arse.

Agreed.  I think the Star Trek fleets would vaporize the Reapers.  Unfortunately, I also agree with another post, Star Trek would lose the ground war.

Reapers hack Borg and Data Reapers win 

Modifié par DemGeth, 25 mars 2012 - 09:45 .

[SinerAthin]

The Reapers would lose against the full might of the Imperium in Wh40k

The IMMENSE size of their ships are only matched by their ENDLESS numbers.

For the reapers, The Imperium of man would be just as bad as the Reapers themselves were to Mass Effect, and the Imperium would break their back through sheer numbers and firepower.

Not to mention that it's almost impossible to harvest Imperial worlds and colonies because the Inquisition is pretty damn happy to bomb their own populations...

[Zardoc]

Lyrandori wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Lyrandori wrote...

I'd like to see Reapers even try to approach a Necron Monolith.

Necrons never truly "die" so they would win easily. 

Yep it was the point hehe! Heck maybe even the Imperium of Man could do it, the 40K universe would eat anything for breakfast.

fix'd

[jarms48]

Zardoc wrote...

Lyrandori wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Lyrandori wrote...

I'd like to see Reapers even try to approach a Necron Monolith.

Necrons never truly "die" so they would win easily. 

Yep it was the point hehe! Heck maybe even the Imperium of Man could do it, the 40K universe would eat anything for breakfast.

fix'd

Pretty much.

Modifié par jarms48, 25 mars 2012 - 09:54 .

[mooney6023]

gotthammer wrote...

<snip>

Honorverse vs. Reapers: my money would be on Honorverse stuff.

Honorverse wins hands down.  I mean the missiles alone are fusion warheads designed to pump the released energy through throw away lenses creating X-ray lasers with a 25,000 kilometer effective envelope.  A pod laying Super Dreadnought fleet can launch tens of thousands of those simultaneously with effective FTL missile guidance throughout the attack run.

I believe in At all Costs we see a combined death toll of 2.2 million and 500+ vaporized Super Dreadnoughts in the Battle of Manticore.

One missile barrage consisted of 500,000 missiles.

http://honorverse.wi...tailed_strength 

Weber's weapon technologies are just vicious.  Reapers wouldn't stand a chance in hell, not even on the ground.

Modifié par mooney6023, 25 mars 2012 - 10:04 .

[Sir MOI]

Everybody is stupid and supersicious in SW universe. So Reapers would win by indoctrination

[Slash1667]

lyleoffmyspace wrote...

Picard would try talking to the Reapers for an episode or two, before Sisko came in with the Defiant and kicked arse.

Absolutely this ^^^

[jarms48]

Slash1667 wrote...

lyleoffmyspace wrote...

Picard would try talking to the Reapers for an episode or two, before Sisko came in with the Defiant and kicked arse.

Absolutely this ^^^

Not a big fan of star trek, but I will admit I would love to see a fan production made for this.

[Pepitobenito]

The problem with some of these comparisons is that, for example, Mass Effect is science fiction, whereas Star Wars (and I'm guessing WH40K) are fantasy that happen in space. Sci-fi operates on at least some realistic basis, whereas fantasy can do whatever it likes.

Ignoring the last 10 minutes of ME3, of course.

Reapers vs Federation makes more sense. But hell, the Star Wars universe is always so full of conflict and everyone either at war or on the verge of it that the Reapers could probably topple it without ever participating in a direct battle.  As for the Covenant or UNSC, I can't see either one winning.  The UNSC uses pretty rudimentary weapons, and regardless of how people might argue about the power of a MAC cannon, their ships are hardly what I'd call durable, and would fall to pieces before they could fire off a second round.  The Covenant is run by religious fanatics that would inevitably do something incredibly stupid, and if not, their theocracy would prove more susceptible to indoctrination than just about anything else.

Modifié par Pepitobenito, 26 mars 2012 - 12:31 .