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[Echo_V]

I'm confused...there are so many threads with more than 1 player describing in detail WHY they think the ending doesn't fit.
So why are you asking? If your question is sincere and you are willing to sacrifice a few minutes then please just read!

If you are lazy, here is a really good explainations:
http://jmstevenson.w...-mass-effect-3/

[Totec]

First off, thank you to those that posted links to clarifying posts and articles. I read a few and it does help me sort of flesh out the general community's reaction even if I don't agree with the dissatisfaction.

I truly wasn't trying to troll. I guess after all the screaming I've been hearing for the past few weeks I was bracing myself for a ground shaking turd of an ending so I was genuinely surprised that I found it a fitting conclusion.

[RLesueur]

thoreauscabin wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Wow,
totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this
one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Having an opinion other than your own, does not make someone a troll.

No, it doesn't at all, but titling your post 'why is everyone so butthurt' does!

No, it doesn't at all. It just means you're too sensitive. Grow a pair, or quad.

You should probably google what a 'troll' is in internet slang.

[sistersafetypin]

"Why is everyone so butthurt?"

"Game was artful!"

lol, Cool story bro

[J-Reyno]

Totec wrote...

strive wrote...

I don't get it. The ending was artful, gripping, dramatic and fitting for such an epic series.

I'm curious what were a few of your favorite parts that left such an impression?

The walk to the beam, continuing through the keeper tunnels cluttered with bodies, to the illusive man conversation. That was all amazing. I was so compelled by it I had to come here to try to wrap my head around this eventhough it's 4:30am right now and I have to get up in a couple hours. 

And personally I saw the crash landing of Normandy on whatever lush planet it was as a hopeful thing. 

If anything was a let down it was not being able to continue the game with the few ME2 squadmates that were so much more memorable than the ones this game offered....mainly Mordin, Miranda and Jack. 

Well, that first part was alright with me as well.

The problem is with other things.  The Normandy issue, for example.  I took Liara and Javik with me on the final run, yet they both inexplicably step out of the Normandy.  They were WITH my Shepard at the time he was hit by the Big Red Lazer, y'know, the one that did a major number on him.  Yet somehow they are unharmed and stepping off the Normandy?  This has been explained that a scene where Joker swoops in and saves them was cut, but it still does not explain why he is fleeing Earth.  He is fleeing the battle.  Everyone is STILL fighting, but Joker is running away.  Not only that, but in my ending the people of Earth are okay!  Many survived, so being stuck on some unknown planet says nothing except that they are stranded and away from everyone they may have loved or cared about.

There's also the fact that you have just made a decision that dramatically changes galactic civilization as we know it, and yet we have absolutely no idea how this decision actually affects everyone.  All those people we spent time gathering for the war effort - no idea who made it out alive.  How do things change in the future depending on whether you chose synthesis, destruction, or control?  There is essentially ZERO difference between choosing one or another because they don't bother to follow up, not even in a little text epilogue.  Instead, BioWare tells us to use our imagination.  And while that may be fine for some (like you) it's just not fine for many others.  There is a distinct lack of closure.  I don't find it artful to toss everything into the air and leave it there just for the sake of speculation.

These kind of things are my personal gripes with the endings, if you really wanted to know.

[CDRSkyShepard]

GlassElephant wrote...

I'm glad you enjoyed the ending, OP. It's nice to see that the ending was satisfying for some Mass Effect players

No sarcasm. I really wanted to like the ending, but it just made me massively disappointed. It felt lacking in so many ways for me.

This.

I love this franchise. I love this IP. I want to like the ending, there are just so many things massively wrong with it that I just...can't. When I first finished the game, I sat down and tried to make sense of it for a few hours. Then I tried to reconcile all the plot holes, all the things that didn't make sense. Now, I'm a smart person...I'm an abstract thinker, but there just wasn't enough for me to go on. I even tried to say, "Well, at least this works somewhat for this Shepard..." but it doesn't work for so many of the others, and even then...there are too many inconsistencies for me to be able to accept that this is the end to one of the most epic sci-fi trilogies of all time.

At best, it's Yahtzee's "balloon whizzing around the room deflating" analogy.

[Dridengx]

Totec wrote...

First off, thank you to those that posted links to clarifying posts and articles. I read a few and it does help me sort of flesh out the general community's reaction even if I don't agree with the dissatisfaction.

I truly wasn't trying to troll..

You had a different opinion than them. That qualifies you as a troll these days. I agree there is no reason to be butthurt or do half the things they have done over this game the last few weeks, but I suppose even if you gather a bunch of minorities together they can still do damage.. unfortunately the damage wasn't to Bioware.. it was to gamers in the society's eye.

Modifié par Dridengx, 25 mars 2012 - 11:58 .

[Clayless]

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it
to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for  the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on. Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a troll:

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Don't bother. There's no talking to these people.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 25 mars 2012 - 11:58 .

[Salfin]

When I experienced the ending at first I accepted what was happening, up until the A, B, C choice.

That's really the crux of my problem with the ending. Then when I began to take stock what was going on - Shepard not challenging the Catalyst, my squadmates who were just with me on earth appearing on a jungle planet etc I began to hold serious doubt about the ending.

It was an artful ending. There were a lot of great scenes that many people put a lot of love into. How it was all put together though left me confused.

I don't believe that confusion was suppose to be the emotion we were ment to be left with.

On a side note, there are no sides here. Many people disliked the ending for different reasons. Many people liked it for different reasons. There are some overlaps, and some serious greviences, but people need to stop identifying themselves as those who are part of one group or another, it just sets the whole community up to be at each other's throats.

Modifié par Salfin, 25 mars 2012 - 12:01 .

[vometia]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Having an opinion other than your own, does not make someone a troll.

No, but saying "Because it wasn't rainbows and ponies, you know." does.

[RLesueur]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it
to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for  the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on. Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a troll:

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Don't bother. There's no talking to these people.

Okay then, I have a totally non-trolling question for you in the vein of the original topic.

Why are you such a liar?

[Admiral H. Cain]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it
to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for  the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on. Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a troll:

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Don't bother. There's no talking to these people.

Is this deceitful?

http://jmstevenson.w...-mass-effect-3/ 

[HenchxNarf]

vometia wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Having an opinion other than your own, does not make someone a troll.

No, but saying "Because it wasn't rainbows and ponies, you know." does.

No it doesn't. It's my opinion.

[alx119]

HenchxNarf wrote...

vometia wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Having an opinion other than your own, does not make someone a troll.

No, but saying "Because it wasn't rainbows and ponies, you know." does.

No it doesn't. It's my opinion.

You can have the same opinion without being offensive. And even if it's your opinion to write it that way, it's theirs to think that you're "trolling" since the credibility of your opinion gets nullified by the offensiveness of the statement. 

[KroganShields]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it
to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for  the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on. Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a troll:

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Don't bother. There's no talking to these people.

What do you get from lying, dude?
Do you think licking Bioware's arse here will get you something? Like to be a mod or getting a job within Bioware?

This is why we exactly call you people trolls. You make no freaking sense.

[RLesueur]

HenchxNarf wrote...

vometia wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Having an opinion other than your own, does not make someone a troll.

No, but saying "Because it wasn't rainbows and ponies, you know." does.

No it doesn't. It's my opinion.

Why are you so butthurt about this?

[Dridengx]

RLesueur wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it
to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for  the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on. Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a troll:

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Don't bother. There's no talking to these people.

Okay then, I have a totally non-trolling question for you in the vein of the original topic.

Why are you such a liar?

Why are you in such denial? It's been proven time and time again the last two weeks that none of the Retake Movement is open to other's opinions, they bash, troll and insult everyone against them. Look at you for example, you started talking crap as soon as this thread started!! lol. don't even try to pretend to be civil

"Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!"

Nice comment and assumption because he enjoyed the game.

Modifié par Dridengx, 25 mars 2012 - 12:05 .

[tjmax]

Totec wrote...

First off, thank you to those that posted links to clarifying posts and articles. I read a few and it does help me sort of flesh out the general community's reaction even if I don't agree with the dissatisfaction.

I truly wasn't trying to troll. I guess after all the screaming I've been hearing for the past few weeks I was bracing myself for a ground shaking turd of an ending so I was genuinely surprised that I found it a fitting conclusion.

I guess depending on how you played your shep it could be fitting. but If you have multiple sheps or like playing the different outcomes from 1 and 2 till the end you will come to see that the replayability was distroyed. all paths lead to that one final sequence. 

As a paragon shepard, I find it hard to swollow that my only choice to save life, given to me by some AI thats been trying to kill me for the years, is to kill my self. The three choices.. are they real, why would anyone trust an ai thats been killing advance life for millions of years to tell you anything honestly. 

I just find it a silly.. I would have rather they end it with shep dieing on the field of battle at the harbingers feet then the nonsence  of the god child. but thats my opinion.

Modifié par tjmax, 25 mars 2012 - 12:06 .

[Clayless]

RLesueur wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it
to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for  the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on. Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a troll:

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Don't bother. There's no talking to these people.

Okay then, I have a totally non-trolling question for you in the vein of the original topic.

Why are you such a liar?

That's the spirit, pretend they never did any of that stuff and all the critism has been constructive and not destructive like even Bioware mentioned.

[jess05]

Totec wrote...

First off, thank you to those that posted links to clarifying posts and articles. I read a few and it does help me sort of flesh out the general community's reaction even if I don't agree with the dissatisfaction.

I truly wasn't trying to troll. I guess after all the screaming I've been hearing for the past few weeks I was bracing myself for a ground shaking turd of an ending so I was genuinely surprised that I found it a fitting conclusion.

For me it didn't fit or make sense.

For example, things that were established get thrown away:

-Why did Shepard just believe everyhting the StarChild said without any argument or question? He/She never has before.

-If the Catalyst Controls/Created the Reapers, what was the point of the plot in ME1?

-Whats the purpose of the Keepers?

-Why was Joker running away?

-How does your ground team end up on the Normandy?

-Arrival established an exploding relay destroys a solar system. Did Shepard just kill more people than the Reapers ever could have?

-Crucible. How and Why was each civilation adding to the Crucible? If they had no idea what it was or what its purpose was, how would they know what to add to it?


Just a few questions.  It didn't seem to fit for me, and "Lots of Speculation" just wasn't what we were promised.



--For the record theres bad eggs in anything.
But only 1 guy failed a official complaint.
Those that thought the donations were for a better ending may have had nothing to do with the movement itself. Just lots of specualtion.

Modifié par jess05, 25 mars 2012 - 12:07 .

[RLesueur]

Dridengx wrote...

Why are you in such denial? It's been proven time and time again the last two weeks that none of the Retake Movement is open to other's opinions, they bash, troll and insult everyone against them. Look at you for example, you started talking crap as soon as this thread

"Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!"

Nice comment and assumption because he enjoyed the game.

He called the thread 'why is everyone so butthurt?'

It's a blatent troll attempt. Most of us have been consistently okay with people having a different opinion on the ending.

Also, you have a weird definition of proof. A couple of people do something = 50,000 people are doing something.

[alx119]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it
to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for  the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on. Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a troll:

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Don't bother. There's no talking to these people.

And focusing their angriness in doing something good for the children. I don't see the people who "loved" the endings focusing their happiness towards a better goal. 

Many accept the fact that there's a few who liked the endings, they just question the reasons. 

[RLesueur]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

That's the spirit, pretend they never did any of that stuff and all the critism has been constructive and not destructive like even Bioware mentioned.

That's the spirit. Lets blame 50,000 people for the actions of a handful. That's not a disproportionate assignement of blame at all.

[Admiral H. Cain]

Dridengx wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it
to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for  the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on. Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a troll:

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Don't bother. There's no talking to these people.

Okay then, I have a totally non-trolling question for you in the vein of the original topic.

Why are you such a liar?

Why are you in such denial? It's been proven time and time again the last two weeks that none of the Retake Movement is open to other's opinions, they bash, troll and insult everyone against them. Look at you for example, you started talking crap as soon as this thread started!! lol. don't even try to pretend to be civil

"Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!"

Nice comment and assumption because he enjoyed the game.

Umm, I hate to break it to you, but did you even read the thread titile? If I need to explain it to you, then lol...

[Clayless]

alx119 wrote...

And focusing their angriness in doing something good for the children. I don't see the people who "loved" the endings focusing their happiness towards a better goal. 

Many accept the fact that there's a few who liked the endings, they just question the reasons. 

And then the charity had to change it's rules due in part to a high number of people demanding their money back when they realised the money was going to sick kids and not into changing the ending.