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[RLesueur]

HenchxNarf wrote...

Actually, they were exploiting sick children in the name of charity. Trying to further their personal cause and make bioware see how much money they're losing.

The whole "charity" movement hurt the kids. Yeah, they got the money -- at least some of it.

Oh wow...

I cannot believe you would stoop to bad mouthing $80,000 raised for sick kids. That's just tragic.

[sadako]

The ending is so great! It's not lazy making one same FMV and calling it multiple endings. It's ARTful, so artful my brain hemorrhages out my ears. It's certainly great after seeing everything that bioware removed and replaced just to meet their deadline.

And don't forget the people who like the endings, don't diss on them, because they're deep and insightful.

People butthurt? They are consumers complaining about their products. Gamer are consumers, too bad some people don't have an inkling what is consumer product, instead they are satisfied professing themselves as walking billboards. Human worth is not measured by what he/she likes, but by the individuality, too bad people nowdays measure their worth in terms of material things.

Artsy? Yeah, I bet the advert in the end promoting DLC in game is artsy as well. I wonder if there's a "Buy more of my stuff" tagline on most artworks today?

If you disagree, then agree to disagree. I will see the flaws for what they are.

Modifié par sadako, 25 mars 2012 - 12:20 .

[KroganShields]

HenchxNarf wrote...

KroganShields wrote...

Most of the time whenever you see a person who 'loved' the ending, all they do is bash, call us whiners and entitled and give retarded answers in return to our questions towards them. 

Basically, Bioware fanboys.

Oh, and the anti-ending crowd is SO much more civil, right? 

Every movement or a group has people who are not civil and give destructive criticism instead of constructive criticism. The fact that whenever a member of  the movement creates a thread explaining his feeling about the ending there is /ALWAYS/ a pro-ending guy who being a total savage idiot who can't even support his opinions with simple facts (aka as The_Last_Secne or whatever the hell is name is. He is a perfect example). 

You almost never see a thread where the ending-lovers post to explain why the do like the ending, the opposite is correct- most of your threads are about how 'whiners and butthurts' we are, and this thread is an perfect example.

Modifié par KroganShields, 25 mars 2012 - 12:21 .

[Dridengx]

tjmax wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

alx119 wrote...

And focusing their angriness in doing something good for the children. I don't see the people who "loved" the endings focusing their happiness towards a better goal. 

Many accept the fact that there's a few who liked the endings, they just question the reasons. 

And then the charity had to change it's rules due in part to a high number of people demanding their money back when they realised the money was going to sick kids and not into changing the ending.

I think thats all nonsense.

Well, you can 'think' all you want but facts are facts and if you continue to disbelieve it just shows your lack of understanding and denial which is rather embarrassing for how you will be preceived.

Modifié par Dridengx, 25 mars 2012 - 12:20 .

[ElcorAmbassador]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

*Looks at join date and forum posts*

Seems legit.

You sir, have sarcasm to a T. I applaud you!

The problem is, eveyrone else fell for it hook, line, and sinker...

[Aweus]

For all I can say is that ME3 lacked true choices in the ending that would feel different. The last hour of trilogy is where they should accumulate lots of choices that would have large impact on the outcome and that you would see/witness this impact on screen. Details like how many fleet ships survive, will Shepard survive, will Normandy and the crew survive? What will happen with all Reapers? Things like that. There should be multiple branches of those outcomes. And not 3 routes in "End-a-tron 3000" where no matter what you do, you pretty much get same thing with a different color. You could argue that there is a huge difference between, say, destroy and synthesis. But you do not FEEL this difference at all. Not to mention synthesis is IMO the prime of example of how NOT to do deus ex machina endings. The thing just doesnt make sense.

TLDR: More choices!

[HenchxNarf]

RLesueur wrote...

Oh wow...

I cannot believe you would stoop to bad mouthing $80,000 raised for sick kids. That's just tragic.

If they get to keep all of that, with the high number of people demanding refunds.

And yes, I did. Because the movement used sick kids as a shield to wave money at Bioware. It's sick. Charity is something you do because you want to do it, not to prove a point or protest.

That's just tragic.

[alx119]

HenchxNarf wrote...

tjmax wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

alx119 wrote...

And focusing their angriness in doing something good for the children. I don't see the people who "loved" the endings focusing their happiness towards a better goal. 

Many accept the fact that there's a few who liked the endings, they just question the reasons. 

And then the charity had to change it's rules due in part to a high number of people demanding their money back when they realised the money was going to sick kids and not into changing the ending.

I think thats all nonsense.
 I think its the people who claim to be on the moral highground pointing their fingers at the drive that actually did that to prove a point, People where donating out of the kindness of their hearts, and some sick twisted people had to ruin it for the kids. People do very immoral things to try to prove their point and don't care that they hurt the children along the way.

Actually, they were exploiting sick children in the name of charity. Trying to further their personal cause and make bioware see how much money they're losing.

The whole "charity" movement hurt the kids. Yeah, they got the money -- at least some of it.

This is utterly unfair, the vast majority of people who donated did it because it was a right thing to do. We didn't win anything with the donations, only the kids did. It's a way to focus our thoughts in other things other than that terrible ending. 

Saying that we exploited sick children is an awful thing to do. 

[RLesueur]

Dridengx wrote...

Well, you can 'think' all you want but facts are facts and if you continue to disbelieve it just shows your lack of understanding and denial which is rather embarrassing for how you will be preceived.

Is the word 'fact' taking on a new meaning on the internet or something?

It just seems to mean 'something I have said' now.

[Fame-KIllz]

dem bio-drones

[garf]

HenchxNarf wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Having an opinion other than your own, does not make someone a troll.

No but expressing that opinion like a complete jerk calling everyone who disagrees with said opinion 'butthurt' IS a trollish act. sorry. You want people to be civil with you. you  should start that way yourself.

[RLesueur]

HenchxNarf wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Oh wow...

I cannot believe you would stoop to bad mouthing $80,000 raised for sick kids. That's just tragic.

If they get to keep all of that, with the high number of people demanding refunds.

And yes, I did. Because the movement used sick kids as a shield to wave money at Bioware. It's sick. Charity is something you do because you want to do it, not to prove a point or protest.

That's just tragic.

The high number of people asking for refunds is utter hearsay.

And I'm sorry, but the motivation for the charity has been clearly stated from the start. Channeling negative energy into helping sick children.

All you've done with yours is rush to the forums to spew vitriol over people actually doing a decent thing.

[Oryonn]

HenchxNarf wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Having an opinion other than your own, does not make someone a troll.

Just like having an opinion other than yours doesn't make us butthurt.

[Dridengx]

alx119 wrote...

Saying that we exploited sick children is an awful thing to do. 

I think you need to become more aware of the group you are involved in. I personally would do some research unless of course you are a sheep and want to continue defending them even though they are already exposed by major publications

[Alexraptor1]

KroganShields wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

KroganShields wrote...

Most of the time whenever you see a person who 'loved' the ending, all they do is bash, call us whiners and entitled and give retarded answers in return to our questions towards them. 

Basically, Bioware fanboys.

Oh, and the anti-ending crowd is SO much more civil, right? 

Every movement or a group has people who are not civil and give destructive criticism instead of constructive criticism. The fact that whenever a member of  the movement creates a thread explaining his feeling about the ending there is /ALWAYS/ a pro-ending guy who being a total savage idiot who can't even support his opinions with simple facts (aka as The_Last_Secne or whatever the hell is name is. He is a perfect example). 

You almost never see a thread where the ending-lovers post to explain why the do like the ending, the opposite is correct- most of your threads are about how 'whiners and butthurts' we are, and this thread is an perfect example.

QFT

[vometia]

Dav3VsTh3World wrote...

Because the majority of users on here are under the age of 21 and have never had a civilized debate in their lives and are only hating on the ending because so many other people are and think it's a society norm

I think the demographics thread rather debunked the assumption that all the "haters" are spoilt rich kids.

[Aweus]

Dridengx wrote...

alx119 wrote...

Saying that we exploited sick children is an awful thing to do. 

I think you need to become more aware of the group you are involved in. I personally would do some research unless of course you are a sheep and want to continue defending them even though they are already exposed by major publications

I feel exposed. Call the police, I cant stand the guilt anymore...

[wright1978]

Happy you liked it but well i don't enjoy railroaded plothole ridden endings with little diversity in a which is supposed to be about player choice and agency.

[Clayless]

RLesueur wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Oh wow...

I cannot believe you would stoop to bad mouthing $80,000 raised for sick kids. That's just tragic.

If they get to keep all of that, with the high number of people demanding refunds.

And yes, I did. Because the movement used sick kids as a shield to wave money at Bioware. It's sick. Charity is something you do because you want to do it, not to prove a point or protest.

That's just tragic.

The high number of people asking for refunds is utter hearsay.

And I'm sorry, but the motivation for the charity has been clearly stated from the start. Channeling negative energy into helping sick children.

All you've done with yours is rush to the forums to spew vitriol over people actually doing a decent thing.

Actually it's from the co-founder.

[RLesueur]

Dridengx wrote...

alx119 wrote...

Saying that we exploited sick children is an awful thing to do. 

I think you need to become more aware of the group you are involved in. I personally would do some research unless of course you are a sheep and want to continue defending them even though they are already exposed by major publications

I think you need to think a lot more about your actions and exactly what you are attacking.

Liking the ending is fine, attacking a charitable cause is not cool at all.

[HenchxNarf]

RLesueur wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Oh wow...

I cannot believe you would stoop to bad mouthing $80,000 raised for sick kids. That's just tragic.

If they get to keep all of that, with the high number of people demanding refunds.

And yes, I did. Because the movement used sick kids as a shield to wave money at Bioware. It's sick. Charity is something you do because you want to do it, not to prove a point or protest.

That's just tragic.

The high number of people asking for refunds is utter hearsay.

And I'm sorry, but the motivation for the charity has been clearly stated from the start. Channeling negative energy into helping sick children.

All you've done with yours is rush to the forums to spew vitriol over people actually doing a decent thing.

If the co-founder says it was a high number, I'm likely to believe him. Because what purpose would he have to lie?

It was to wave money in bioware's face "Look at what you did, Bioware! Look at all the money you won't get!" You donate because you want to donate. If you wanted to donate, you should have done so on your own. I'm not the only one who has brought this up, and I certanly won't be the last.

Even CP said it. "Child’s Play cannot be a tool to draw attention to a cause.  Child’s Play must be the Cause. "

You used a charity to draw attention to a cause. Which is bad. It borders on exploiting sick children just to make a company feel bad. Hide behind your reasons all you want, but you don't see how it really is.

Modifié par HenchxNarf, 25 mars 2012 - 12:27 .

[Oryonn]

Alexraptor1 wrote...

KroganShields wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

KroganShields wrote...

Most of the time whenever you see a person who 'loved' the ending, all they do is bash, call us whiners and entitled and give retarded answers in return to our questions towards them. 

Basically, Bioware fanboys.

Oh, and the anti-ending crowd is SO much more civil, right? 

Every movement or a group has people who are not civil and give destructive criticism instead of constructive criticism. The fact that whenever a member of  the movement creates a thread explaining his feeling about the ending there is /ALWAYS/ a pro-ending guy who being a total savage idiot who can't even support his opinions with simple facts (aka as The_Last_Secne or whatever the hell is name is. He is a perfect example). 

You almost never see a thread where the ending-lovers post to explain why the do like the ending, the opposite is correct- most of your threads are about how 'whiners and butthurts' we are, and this thread is an perfect example.

QFT

[RLesueur]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Actually it's from the co-founder.

If you read all of Tycho's post he quite clearly says he supports our cause.

[alx119]

Dridengx wrote...

alx119 wrote...

Saying that we exploited sick children is an awful thing to do. 

I think you need to become more aware of the group you are involved in. I personally would do some research unless of course you are a sheep and want to continue defending them even though they are already exposed by major publications

Because 4 thousand people is totally using children to their own motives. Exposed where, the "high ammount" of refunds doesn't even get near the 80.000$ the charity collected. The motives were clear, channeling the angriness into something nice. If a few rotten tomatoes decided that they didn't want to partake in it and wanted their money back, alright cool. But that doesn't make the rest manipulative monsters. 

[sadako]

I'm so mad I'm going to donate to kids!
OMG those poor kids, they're getting aid from angry people.

I think the donation is better than what some of the people here do, which is being mad and abusive.
Considering they used charity to vent their dissatisfaction, I think it's a good idea. Even during donation is it mentioned that regardless of what happened, the money will go to the children.

Why don't the people who argue the Keep ME3 endings do the same. C'mon, don't be cheapskate! The kids are on the winning end here. Oh wait, 'holier than thou' attitude is prevalent here.