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[ScotGaymer]

Dragoonlordz wrote...


I never asked for changes or demanded such either to the core game because it would of been pointless as the entire game did not feel was catered towards my tastes (from what I recall), I did however leave feedback for the next title. I stated it simply was not sort of game I enjoyed and therefore my interest in it and direction it took was not something I was interested in personally and that I would of prefered more inline with a dragon age origins approach but meh such is life, I actually own two copies now.

As for your first statement the problem lays in that the people who dislike the ending outnumber the ones that do, therefore even if most (or I think many is more accurate) of those who dislike it are civil the size of the population on that side of the fence still leaves the ones who are uncivil outnumbering the ones who liked the endings.

I never said you did, and as it is there was too much "wrong" with Dragon Age 2 for them to fix in a small scale DLC. It needed an expansion and it was getting an expansion that has been cancelled. *sigh*

Mass Effect 3 is completely different.

It only needs a small scale DLC to clear up and better implement the ending (doesn't need to be a totally thrown out) so the effort to "fix" it is much less and much more affordable. Thus much more reasonable to ask for.

EDIT:
I don't really agree with that, that the problem lies in the difference in size between the two groups. I mean if we go by ratio then there should be a LOT less pro-ender people being nasty about the issue than there is; the fact that you are one of two people that are pro-ending that I have seen that arent rude or condescending about it is telling man.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 25 mars 2012 - 04:23 .

[AwesomeDudex64]

Can't link from the phone but here it is anyway: http://social.biowar.../index/10487821

[Omega Torsk]

If you truly want to know, go to one of the 50 threads that detail our reasons.

[Carlthestrange]

"Why is everyone so butthurt?"

[Mixorz]

There is no good reason. I think the ending is good, and was a good end to the series. What's funny is many of their complaints are speculation too.

[crimsontotem]

If you call a massive mixture of color a art... go ahead

[StarcloudSWG]

In all variations of the ending, these are the events that happen:

Reapers stop, colored beam blows up the mass relays, galactic civilization is destroyed, Normandy is stranded.

It doesn't matter what you choose. These things always happen. And since the reason you're attempting to stop the Reapers has to do with, you know, saving galactic civilization, and you're forced to destroy galactic civilization, it's pretty much a complete FAILURE for Shepard.

You don't end a trilogy by forcing FAILURE on the player.

[pjotroos]

Totec wrote...

I was expecting some horrible half ass phony ending

Accurate description of what happened. 11th hour development makes reapers disappear, none of the other plot threads gets resolved.

[IsleySilverlord]

Missing the point, again.

I should go.

[tiger-tron]

Omega Torsk wrote...

If you truly want to know, go to one of the 50 threads that detail our reasons.

One of 50 threads? a thousand more like.

[Soaringeagle78]

Trololololololo
You know what! You should work for EA/Bioware!

[Americ4nPunk]

Might as well give a quick summary to the OP to save him from rereading all the threads

1) Plot holes (reaper explanation, joker bailing on you, etc)
2) Space Magic disconnects the final five minutes from tone (or the blatant use of Deus Ex Machina)
3) False Advertisement based on a few articles on what Casey Hudson said
4) Lack of character closure
5) Previous choices invalidated by the standard A,B,C ending scheme

and many more that I can't think of right now

Modifié par Americ4nPunk, 25 mars 2012 - 06:40 .

[Nicky 192]

@I was expecting some horrible half ass phony ending, something that would warrant all the pained screams from the Bioware faithful that I've been hearing for weeks.

- I had mixed feeling's ,but was overall optimistic.

@disgusted and angry and to harbor a general feeling of being cheated.

-That's pretty much how i feel now. Especially as we were led to expect that our choice's would matter at the end. They then completely break the're narrative and introduce a star child out of nowhere and then, explain everything away with space magic leaving gaping plot holes along the way. I have my reasons for disliking the ending and i believe they are valid one's.I'f you liked it you're entitled to your opinion. I respect that.

Modifié par Nicky 192, 25 mars 2012 - 06:59 .

[Luzarius]

Totec wrote...

So yes I finally finished the storyline. I realize it took me a lot longer than most but I blame a lack of play time and my tendencies toward alt-itis. 

I was expecting some horrible half ass phony ending, something that would warrant all the pained screams from the Bioware faithful that I've been hearing for weeks.  I was expecting to be disgusted and angry and to harbor a general feeling of being cheated. 

I don't get it. The ending was artful, gripping, dramatic and fitting for such an epic series. So why all the butthurt? I mean people screamed enough to actually make Bioware go back and decide to augment and tweak what was a suprisingly artful climax to the series. 

I imagine in a different time the same people would threaten Shakespeare's life for killing off Romeo and Juliet. Where people expecting to go back to Rannoch and dry hump tali's wetsuit or something? 

tl;dr someone explain why everyone is crying about this...to the point of threatening the creators etc. It's crazy to me. 

To Bioware, thank you for the excellent experience and story. It was truly a bar-raising event.

The ending was epic but not perfect. What happened to the normandy? How did shep get back down on the surface? An epilogue would be icing on the cake.

But still, I agree with you. The ending was gripping, dramatic and thought provoking. That moment where Shep drew breathe, I'll never forget that.

Luzarius
www.twitch.tv/luzarius
"no death ruleset"

Modifié par Luzarius, 25 mars 2012 - 07:05 .

[Americ4nPunk]

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Modifié par Americ4nPunk, 25 mars 2012 - 07:22 .

[saracen16]

Totec wrote...

So yes I finally finished the storyline. I realize it took me a lot longer than most but I blame a lack of play time and my tendencies toward alt-itis. 

I was expecting some horrible half ass phony ending, something that would warrant all the pained screams from the Bioware faithful that I've been hearing for weeks.  I was expecting to be disgusted and angry and to harbor a general feeling of being cheated. 

I don't get it. The ending was artful, gripping, dramatic and fitting for such an epic series. So why all the butthurt? I mean people screamed enough to actually make Bioware go back and decide to augment and tweak what was a suprisingly artful climax to the series. 

I imagine in a different time the same people would threaten Shakespeare's life for killing off Romeo and Juliet. Where people expecting to go back to Rannoch and dry hump tali's wetsuit or something? 

tl;dr someone explain why everyone is crying about this...to the point of threatening the creators etc. It's crazy to me. 

To Bioware, thank you for the excellent experience and story. It was truly a bar-raising event.

The ending addressed every single Mass Effect conflict metaphorically, and brought us to decide the fate of a galaxy that we helped shape, and to weld it to our desire: a universe with synthetics, a universe without synthetics, or a universe with new life.

I agree with you 100%. It's incredibly beautiful and thought-provoking at the same time.

[saracen16]

pjotroos wrote...

Totec wrote...

I was expecting some horrible half ass phony ending

Accurate description of what happened. 11th hour development makes reapers disappear, none of the other plot threads gets resolved.

Genophage? Quarian-Geth conflict?

Man, you seriously have been missing out on the entire game, have you?

[pjotroos]

saracen16 wrote...

pjotroos wrote...

Totec wrote...

I was expecting some horrible half ass phony ending

Accurate description of what happened. 11th hour development makes reapers disappear, none of the other plot threads gets resolved.

Genophage? Quarian-Geth conflict?

Man, you seriously have been missing out on the entire game, have you?

Any effort put into those is cancelled out by the mass relay network destruction, along with killing the geth off in the destroy option.

[VoodooDrackus]

Totally agree with OP.

Glad someone else in this sea of madness feels the same way about the game and ending as I do.

[mrderp27]

pjotroos wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

pjotroos wrote...

Totec wrote...

I was expecting some horrible half ass phony ending

Accurate description of what happened. 11th hour development makes reapers disappear, none of the other plot threads gets resolved.

Genophage? Quarian-Geth conflict?

Man, you seriously have been missing out on the entire game, have you?

Any effort put into those is cancelled out by the mass relay network destruction, along with killing the geth off in the destroy option.

they died in an artistic way, duh

Modifié par mrderp27, 25 mars 2012 - 07:56 .

[Sublyminal]

zarnk567 wrote...

Did you just use the word "artful" to describe this mess of an ending......(sigh) I'm losing faith in humanity.....

I lost that a long time ago... 

[Persason]

Totec wrote...

So yes I finally finished the storyline. I realize it took me a lot longer than most but I blame a lack of play time and my tendencies toward alt-itis. 

I was expecting some horrible half ass phony ending, something that would warrant all the pained screams from the Bioware faithful that I've been hearing for weeks.  I was expecting to be disgusted and angry and to harbor a general feeling of being cheated. 

I don't get it. The ending was artful, gripping, dramatic and fitting for such an epic series. So why all the butthurt? I mean people screamed enough to actually make Bioware go back and decide to augment and tweak what was a suprisingly artful climax to the series. 

I imagine in a different time the same people would threaten Shakespeare's life for killing off Romeo and Juliet. Where people expecting to go back to Rannoch and dry hump tali's wetsuit or something? 

tl;dr someone explain why everyone is crying about this...to the point of threatening the creators etc. It's crazy to me. 

To Bioware, thank you for the excellent experience and story. It was truly a bar-raising event.

Because there are wat too many plotholes in it to make any sense. Also all your decisiont meant abseloutly nothing. Plus there is no closure to it whath appened then?! 

[saracen16]

pjotroos wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

pjotroos wrote...

Totec wrote...

I was expecting some horrible half ass phony ending

Accurate description of what happened. 11th hour development makes reapers disappear, none of the other plot threads gets resolved.

Genophage? Quarian-Geth conflict?

Man, you seriously have been missing out on the entire game, have you?

Any effort put into those is cancelled out by the mass relay network destruction, along with killing the geth off in the destroy option.

We don't even know if the mass relay's destruction destroys all systems or even "strands all species" on Earth. If I were to send my support to Earth, I'd damn well not send my ENTIRE population.

[Chrisimo]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it
to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for  the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on. Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a troll:

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Don't bother. There's no talking to these people.

Okay then, I have a totally non-trolling question for you in the vein of the original topic.

Why are you such a liar?

That's the spirit, pretend they never did any of that stuff and all the critism has been constructive and not destructive like even Bioware mentioned.

Now you are actually saying that the Retake movement has also made constructive posts. Before that you said:

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it

to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for 
the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money
back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a
charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on.
Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a
troll:

Quite a difference.

[Clayless]

Chrisimo wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

RLesueur wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it
to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for  the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on. Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a troll:

RLesueur wrote...

Wow, totally new and original trolling attempt here. No one has tried this one before, you are a unique and special snowflak!

Don't bother. There's no talking to these people.

Okay then, I have a totally non-trolling question for you in the vein of the original topic.

Why are you such a liar?

That's the spirit, pretend they never did any of that stuff and all the critism has been constructive and not destructive like even Bioware mentioned.

Now you are actually saying that the Retake movement has also made constructive posts. Before that you said:

So far the retake movement has been using deceit, wanting to sue Bioware, giving the game 0/10, comparing it

to getting their mother raped, wanting people to be fired, calling for 
the company to collapse, making threads about how to get your money
back that's full of praise and support, demanding their money back from a
charity and forcing it to change it's rules, the list goes on and on.
Heck if you ask them why they're overreacting so much they call you a
troll:

Quite a difference.

A vast minority of the retake movement has made constructive critisism.

Source:

Every reaction thread to the ending and over half the responses in this thread from the retake movement.