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[ENorman94]

Op just wants us to say it's Liara.

[sammcl]

Definitely Mordin for me, his story was perfect. Exploring ethics, the greater good, fallout from past decisions. And the way his story ends...possibly the best moment in Mass Effect. Of all the characters, I think Mordin's story was the most complete and that is what writers should strive for with their side characters.

[Neria Rose]

ENorman94 wrote...

Op just wants us to say it's Liara.

This.

[Mechler]

For the gaming industry? Conrad Verner. He lampshaded the typical things done in an rpg game and chronicled the story of a rather well educatted doctor who wants to do the right thing, by following his role model, who happened to get the best possible military training. This basicly spells out failure, but in his short appearance in Mass effect 3 he was all kind of awesome.

[Cleverly13]

Delan... or Marauder Shields.

[CrutchCricket]

danteliveson wrote...
It's always the Miranda fans.

Now now, let's not generalize. I'm a Miranda fan. I happen to like Liara quite a bit as well.

Now back to the OP, I would have to say: the space hamster.

That little furball won Shep's heart from the moment he stepped on the Normandy. Everytime Shep needed a friend there'd he be, tiny whiskers brushing against the glass as he reached up, as if to pet Shepard and tell him everything's going to be ok. But then his shyness overcame his forwardness and he'd scamper back into his house with a squeak. The space hamster was all about giving, never about taking. You didn't need to feed him. When Shep got the SR-2 back in ME3, he knew something wasn't right until he caught the little scamp in the bowels of the ship and restored him to his proper place. Shepard wasn't trying to save the whole world. He was just trying to save one...

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 27 mars 2012 - 01:37 .

[prizm123]

i agree with what someone else said...
if The Illusive Man hadn't funded Project Cerberus, the galaxy is history by the time ME3 rolls around, so indirectly, even though you disagreed with him and he ends up the way he does, he really does indirectly save humanity, or at least gives them a shot of winning

[Reikilea]

Definitely Anderson.. He is first N7 candidate, someone who nearly became first human spactre, but had to deal with failure and consequences. Someone who made Shrpad the on he/she is today. He was able to give up his story for someone else. In the dark hour he stayed on Earth organising the resistance. More importantly he trusted Shepard, no matter what would happen..He was the active force behind the story - He appointed Shepard as a Spectre, he gave up his ship, he punched Udina to let Shepard go and catch Saren, he became councilor, but stepped down to became a real help for humanity. The good old mentor type. I though the relationship between him and Shepard was amazing. Nice version of a traditional mentor story type. His story was completed perfectly.

And then Mordin a Legion. Mordin for trying to correct the mistake he once made, believing it was right at that time, but was able to move past that and find a cure. Moreover he sacrificed himself for a better Krogan future. For such a hostile race. Very ethic story..

And Legion because, he kind of betrayed his own race, he agreed to destroy/rewrite his own race if it helps in their fight against the reapers. And because he wanted to find a peace between nations, who were fighting for centuries. He wanted good for both quarians and geth...

Why those three? Because they had their own purpose.. Something different that Shepard story.

There is too much Liara in a story. Its just fanservice, its like she was everywhere. She seemed rather too clingy to me. Anyone can dig in Prothean ruins. All she did was just following Shepard...If it wasnt for him, she would be still stuck iside that field on Therum..

[Sleepdribble]

In order:

Anderson - the Mentor
Liara - love her/hate her... so many plot points pivot on her
Illusive Man
Legion - he illustrates a sympathetic case for synthetics (say that three times fast)
Miranda - It KILLS me to include her!
Joker - The Anchor
Kaidan - because reasons.

[anonymous1193]

marauder shields

never 4get

[Richard 060]

...Shepard, surely?

In terms of the supporting cast, I get the impression that, with ME3's story, we're being firmly rail-roaded into having Liara as main plot-driving character, as well as quite possibly the highest-prioritised love interest.

Heck, I used to be a massive Liara fan, but it's been dampened somewhat seeing how much she muscles in on other characters' screen time in ME3 (particularly if you're pursuing a romance with someone else - she's always there in the background, in an almost stalker-ish manner).

Ash/Kaiden are next, but only because they're a more traditional 'counterpart' role - got sidelined in ME2, and for a surprisingly large part of ME3. Then it's Garrus/Tali, who seem to be meant as 'buddy' characters by default. Apart from romantic options, they seem to fit the 'Chewbacca' role as second-stringers on the Normandy, with their own plots and agendas, but not quite as vital to the primary story arc.

Amazingly, Wrex got relegated to the same level as Mordin/Legion, followed by Miranda, and then the entire remaining ME2 team end up as little more than glorified cameos - many of whom can easily be swapped-out for perfectly serviceable replacement NPCs. Let's not even start on the negative impact this had on ME2 LIs (particularly if you played FemShep and went for Jacob - I feel for you guys, I really do...)...


...ok, I'm done - mini-rant/lecture over!

[thegeenster]

ENorman94 wrote...

Op just wants us to say it's Liara.

Well, I did ask a question, gave my own answer, and then proceeded to give my reasons as to why. Why would I pose a question just to try to convince people to give me back an answer I want to hear, negating the possibility of another option? Sounds like indoctrination to me...

I truly am curious as to who the fans consider the most important character as far as how they affect the industry, and it's been fun reading the answers, serious an otherwise. Why would I not want to read about differing opinions? Discourse is one of the pillars of civilization, after all.

[Immortal fish]

Well Shepard is really important obviously, as are T.I.M, Anderson, heck Jon Grissom is really important to the mass effect world though technically he's not in any of the games.
All the squadmates are important to varying degrees.
But I'm amazed no-one has mentioned one of the best villians in the series- Saren Arterius.

[Reikilea]

Immortal fish wrote...

But I'm amazed no-one has mentioned one of the best villians in the series- Saren Arterius.

Maybe becasue people still thinks he wa sonly puppet, what he was. But you ate right at pointing him out - without him nothing would happen, becaus ehe was the soruce of action in first ME, the first one one came up with reapers.
So then Shepard only extract the beacon and nothing happens... But without Saren triggering its mechanism, nothing would happen.
Some poor asari/human scientinst ends up with visions, but its not strong enought to comprehend them an universe is doomed. 

[Hadeedak]

There's no Shepard without Vakarion.

[EmGo]

 For me?

 Garrus.

There would be no Mass Effect without Shepard and Garrus. The rest are expendable

[FlyinElk212]

JENKINS, MADDAFUGGA.

ALWAYS THE GODDAMN HERO, JENKINS.

[MalevoIence]

The Biotic God Volus obviously..... he was controlling the Reapers behind the scenes. You'd never expect he was behind everything..... suppose they should of taken him more seriously now that you think about it huh?

[Jake Boone]

Mechler wrote...

For the gaming industry? Conrad Verner. He lampshaded the typical things done in an rpg game and chronicled the story of a rather well educatted doctor who wants to do the right thing, by following his role model, who happened to get the best possible military training. This basicly spells out failure, but in his short appearance in Mass effect 3 he was all kind of awesome.

Ironically, If they had gone with the dark energy ending, Conrad would have been one of the most important people in the galaxy. 

[DJ CAVE SLAVE]

Legion.
Don't care what anyone says.

[Jkrell]

It has to be Anderson or Miranda. Anderson is always needed to pull Shep back in. T.I.M needed Miranda to rebuild Shep.

[ENorman94]

thegeenster wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Op just wants us to say it's Liara.

Well, I did ask a question, gave my own answer, and then proceeded to give my reasons as to why. Why would I pose a question just to try to convince people to give me back an answer I want to hear, negating the possibility of another option? Sounds like indoctrination to me...

I truly am curious as to who the fans consider the most important character as far as how they affect the industry, and it's been fun reading the answers, serious an otherwise. Why would I not want to read about differing opinions? Discourse is one of the pillars of civilization, after all.

Your right of course. Im just bitter because every thread I read has some Liara fan saying "why doesn't this thread have more Liara!?!" or "Liara is soooo important to mass effect, all other characters have no importance!!...OMGZZZ LIARAA !!" In my opinion...on industry I'd say the Illusive Man as it shows that videogames are being taken more seriously by verteran actors such as Martin Sheen. More and more you see famous actors and actresses appearing in videogames. Just what I think..

[Unschuld]

Skullheart wrote...

Walters waifu.

It hurts because it's so true...  

[Mentxi]

....despite all my efforts, Liara is ALWAYS there to remind me how important she is.

[Demonhoopa]

ENorman94 wrote...

thegeenster wrote...

ENorman94 wrote...

Op just wants us to say it's Liara.

Well, I did ask a question, gave my own answer, and then proceeded to give my reasons as to why. Why would I pose a question just to try to convince people to give me back an answer I want to hear, negating the possibility of another option? Sounds like indoctrination to me...

I truly am curious as to who the fans consider the most important character as far as how they affect the industry, and it's been fun reading the answers, serious an otherwise. Why would I not want to read about differing opinions? Discourse is one of the pillars of civilization, after all.

Your right of course. Im just bitter because every thread I read has some Liara fan saying "why doesn't this thread have more Liara!?!" or "Liara is soooo important to mass effect, all other characters have no importance!!...OMGZZZ LIARAA !!" In my opinion...on industry I'd say the Illusive Man as it shows that videogames are being taken more seriously by verteran actors such as Martin Sheen. More and more you see famous actors and actresses appearing in videogames. Just what I think..

Uh huh.

All that said..............Liara.  

EmGo wrote...

 For me?

 Garrus.

There would be no Mass Effect without Shepard and Garrus. The rest are expendable

Really? Garrus wasn't even in ME3 at all on my second playthrough.

Modifié par Demonhoopa, 27 mars 2012 - 08:09 .